Sprint starts trial program called "Upgrade Now" for current customers
0. phoneArena 13 Feb 2012, 18:56 posted on
At certain of its locations, Sprint is offering a program that allows customers in the midst of a two year contract to upgrade to a new phone; the price of the phone would be between the off-contract price and the subsidized price for new customers...
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1. eman99 (Posts: 229; Member since: 03 Aug 2010)
well where at exactly just go into sprint and demand?
2. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5599; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
it's a good idea, all carriers need to have this option.
3. SGSII (Posts: 53; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)
That may come in handy since I just got an Eptouch...
4. threeline (Posts: 256; Member since: 11 Sep 2011)
Upgrade to what sprint? You only have two good phones to choose from, the 4S and the Epic Touch.
5. mad5870 (Posts: 60; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
Yeah but they are going to have the nexus soon. so basically this is telling people by the epic touch of the 4s and don't worry you can still get your nexus at a lower price than full retail price.
This is a good idea hopefully they start getting a lot better phones.
6. Sniggly (Posts: 7067; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Photon is also a good phone, at a hell of a price too (at Best Buy anyway).
Also, just got word from our Sprint rep today that between 15 and 17 new LTE models will be coming out in the coming years. Or year. He wasn't exactly clear.
7. mad5870 (Posts: 60; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
yeah good point the Photon is a good phone also. and that would be sweet. I'm about to switch to sprint so hopefully they keep this upgrade option
8. ngo2dd (Posts: 781; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)
I enjoy my 3D it is very fast for me because I have a tweat sense ROM that use the GPU for rendering so I like it. A funny fact to me at least is a new 3D out of the box is running 2.3.3 with Hboot 1.3. The root for that is a one click with s-off. I know because they gave me a new out after I brick my first one.
12. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5599; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
the Photon has nothing over the Epic 4G Touch other than Webtop and Global Capabilities.
16. ngo2dd (Posts: 781; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)
IDK about that it is really up to the user. The photon has a higher res. screen with a kick stand and some people want that. 4.5 wvga vs a 4.3 qHD, some will take a higher res over super amoled plus at wvga. It is really up to the user.
17. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5599; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
that's true about the Photon having qHD over the Galaxy S II and while there are trade offs for a qHD LCD display and a SA+ display the SA+ display will take the cake nearly every time. the kick stand is negligible.
18. ngo2dd (Posts: 781; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)
I like natural looking color until SA+ phone give me the ability without root. I would have to go with LCD, I like the IPS one the best. There are time when I wish I had a kick stand watching netflix on a phone is a nice why to kill time between classes.
19. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5599; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
if they were anywhere near each other in terms of performance and if the Photon had the updated UI (or at least a certainty that it will be upgraded to ICS) i might would agree with you but the Epic 4G Touch is wayyy too much more powerful than the Photon for these little things to take any presidence. unless you travel i'd feel bad for you if you bought a Photon over an Epic 4G Touch.
20. ngo2dd (Posts: 781; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)
Nope I don't like Motorola phone, and I had the Nexus S 4g before they fix the wifi and signal. So I change to the 3D before the other were out. I rooted and it work for me. I am not a power user per say. So I could care less about performance, and plus I care more for whites then blacks in term of color. And we all know that a white blackground is not really white in Amoled screen.
21. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5599; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
it's not when you compare it side by side to an LCD or an IPS display but i know what you mean owning a Razr EVEN THOUGH it uses that out of control original SA technology with qHD resolution. when you learn the things i've learned and ride the rides i've rode with Android devices you become a straight up power user. o.o
25. Sniggly (Posts: 7067; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Okay, so its processor isn't *quite as fast,* but you're still looking at a dual core 1.0 GHz processor with a gig of RAM, which is most certainly nothing to sneeze at. Also, I still love Motorola's durability, and the Photon is a slightly more unique looking device than the Epic Touch.
And again, I reiterate: 50. Bucks.
27. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5599; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
I don't care. it's nowhere near as fast as the Epic 4G Touch. the Photon actually didn't feel good at all to me. surprisingly the Epic 4G Touch also wins me over in the design department as well.
pricing is irrelevant as all handsets usually get a major price deduction from third party retailers.
29. Sniggly (Posts: 7067; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
"Nowhere near as fast as the Epic Touch"
By what metric? I haven't had as much experience with the Photon, but I use the ATRIX, which is virtually the same phone, and it handles very well.
I think maybe you should cool down a little bit. The Photon is still a very nice phone. I mean, what exactly can the Epic Touch do that the Photon can't?
32. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5599; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
it doesn't matter. i wouldn't settle for a Photon for no reason.
have you not used an Exynos powered Galaxy S II?
33. Sniggly (Posts: 7067; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
I've played around with the different versions of the S2. Not a whole lot, because I don't own one. However, I'll reiterate: the Photon is certainly not a pushover just because its processor clock speed is slower than the S2.
34. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5599; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
it's not a pushover because it has a lower clock frequency, it's a pushover because Exynos is a vastly superior SoC than the Tegra II and the Photon doesn't offer anything really compelling enough over the Epic 4G Touch to make up for that important short coming.
35. Sniggly (Posts: 7067; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
I'm sorry, I still haven't caught the part where you explain why Exynos is superior to Tegra 2, nor did I catch the part where you explain what aspects of real world performance the Tegra 2 fails at which the Exynos succeeds at.
36. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5599; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
oh Sniggly, Sniggly, Sniggly. xD
are you really going to make me explain this to you?
there's different factors that account for Exynos' superiority over the Tegra II. the ARM Mali-400 GPU Exynos uses is superior to the Geforce graphics Nvidia uses, Exynos has NEON support like the OMAP4 which is an advantage both of these SoCs have over the Tegra II and Samsung has optimized Exynos amazingly well for their TW4 UI. it's ridiculously smooth whereas the Photon was the last high end Motorola Android Smartphone to come out without the updated UI that debuted on the Droid 3 and what the Photon uses is wayyy behind what's being used now in terms of quality. I think even your ATRIX uses the updated UI which puts it ahead of the Photon in my book. try me all you want to, I know what I'm talking about.
44. Sniggly (Posts: 7067; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Okay, just so you know, I genuinely don't know these things, so I really am trying to get a specific idea why you have your opinions. I tend to look at things with more of an end user perspective.
Why is the Mali-400 superior to GeForce?
What is NEON support, and why is it important?
Why does optimization for Touchwiz matter when the Photon doesn't use it?
Besides aesthetics, why does it matter what UI the Photon uses? I find that it works quite well on my Atrix (which has virtually the same UI) and it's light years ahead of the old Blur skin found on non Verizon (and even Verizon) Motorola phones.
So I'm not trying to challenge you, lol. I really just want to know these things.
45. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5599; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
i actually don't know enough about either of these GPUs to really explain it to you in detail but benchmarks consistently put it at the top (or just below the PowerVR SGX54x(MP2) and it's performance on the Galaxy S II truly shines.
NEON instructions or SIMD are a set of instructions that control the pixels more effectively in an RGB matrix. it's like the difference between a boy scout pack mother instructing boy scouts to line up and a drill sargent instructing a drill team.
because for one thing Motorola has had barely any experience with Nvidia and their Tegra II SoC so their drivers for it probably weren't very great whereas Samsung's homebrewed Exynos has been running their TW UI for as long as they've both been around. what i'm saying is in comparison the Galaxy S IIs running on Exynos performs much better than the Photon using an outdated UI on an SoC Motorola hasn't gotten too cozy with.
it's not quite the same thing. the transitions are very static on the Photon and lag is more prominent than on the touched up UI our phones use.
10. theBankRobber (Posts: 647; Member since: 22 Sep 2011)
Come on now, pull your head out your ass, they have 4 phones, Evo 3d, Motorola Photon, Samsung galaxy S II, and iPhone 4s. If you only like the 2 you named good for you, but educate yourself on what a good phone with features IS.
11. Cwebb (Posts: 501; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
3D, Photon? Not quite Verizon/AT&T lineup but for unlimited data at a reasonable price, and EXTREMELY inexpensive prices for the phones (a penny for the 3D and $50 for the Photon on Amazon compared to $300 for Verizon/AT&T) its not too shabby. But next time I'm definitely getting a pre-paid GSM and getting an overseas phone lol
13. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5599; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
did you seriously give Sprint a 1UP over Verizon and AT&T because of Amazon's pricing over the Carrier's? you're either real stupid or you have some real nerve thinking everybody else is too stupid to catch that. besides the 3D and Photon are trash compared to Verizon's offerings which get similar price cuts from third party sources. the Droid 4 launched at $100 on Amazon or Wirefly I forget which one and the Droid 4 is a much better phone than both the 3D and the Photon. I'd take a Droid 4 over both of those phones.
23. WKlingbeil (Posts: 215; Member since: 26 Dec 2008)
Droid products are completely inferior to comparable phones on other carriers because VZW's proprietary software is almost as restrictive as Apple's. I've worked for most of the cell phone companies and can say that VZW has the worst proprietary s/w on all phones. They want the most control and are usually the last on opening their phones up more. They want everything labeled "VZ" something. If they wouldn't get reamed for it, they wouldn't include the Android Market in their Android phones, hence the reason they released their own market. So, let's keep our 15 year old, coolest kid in high school with unsubstantiated statements to ourselves. As for the rest of your comments, I have the Photon since I got it for extremely cheap when I worked for Sprint. It is a great phone, especially when rooted. The GSII had a plethora of defects, as is typical with Samsungs. The Photon's first batch was pretty ugly, but they vastly improved it with the 2nd and I've had no issues with my replacement that I got 4 months ago. The SGII still has serious reception issues and serious speed issues. It's been known to be on 4G and not get over 400 kbps for hours. Hardware wise, yes, the SGII looks better, but when it comes to real world performance on a consistent basis (no, I don't care about you or your friend's 1 good SGII), the Photon is a much better choice.
24. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5599; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
hahaha wow. your argument is so ridiculous. xD
ugh, your type exhausts me.
okay...i don't give a flying s**t about Verizon's yearning for control. my Razr is as Android as your Photon and however bad Verizon is with "proprietary software" they always update their handsets quicker than any other carrier. in conjunction with the OEMs of course. i'm a big Motorola fan myself, they're reliable, durable and Motorola devices always have the best radios and call quality but on Sprint Samsung currently reigns supreme with the Epic 4G Touch. it may have some bugs but whatever man, they'll get fixed like the first batch of Photons. looks better? how about you point out how much more immensely powerful the Epic 4G Touch is than the Photon which is even quite noticeable in real world performance? point is if you have a good Epic 4G Touch you're doing way better than a Photon.
38. Cwebb (Posts: 501; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
1) The SGS2ET4G's only advantage over the 3D/Photon is the processor and camera, which don't exactly make a difference in real world usage. When you have that high end of a phone, its just nitpicking an otherwise great phone. And don't give that SuperAMOLED s***, I'd take resolution over saturation any time. And lets not even get into the problems Sammy has with every phone (connection/upgrades). If someone put a gun to my head and made my buy a new phone (because I wouldn't with the LTE Galaxy Nexus coming down the pipe), I would take the Photon/3D over the SGS2ET4G
2) HTC always gets the fastest updates, end of story, plus they're more durable and reliable. I will concede call quality, but I rarely call people (video chat FTW) so it doesn't affect me personally.
3) Have we ever got an explanation why Verizon didn't give us the SGN sooner even though the rest of the world had it? My best guess is they needed fill a pure device with all their bloatware
37. Cwebb (Posts: 501; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
Your kidding right? The Droid 4 only caters to the qwerty keyboard crowd and isn't close to the 3D and Photon, as the thumbs have shown. 2nd, is the $300 your paying for a phone that is actually better than the 3D/Photon, plus the uber-expensive plans, worth it? Besides the fact that your limited on how much of it you can actually use.
39. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5599; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
the thumbs are from Sprint fanboys. Sprint fanboys are the worst next to Apple fanboys. now watch me get more thumbs downs, I don't care. I'm right the Droid 4 is a way better phone than the 3D and the Photon. better processor, LTE, better display than the Photon, great keyboard. the $300 price range from the carrier is irrelevant because you can get your fix other places just like you're talking about doing with Sprint. for me being on Sprint would be more expensive because I have 4 data plans on my family plan and since Sprint charges a premium for 4G data the more lines you have the more expensive it is and besides I'm grandfathered into unlimited data on Verizon so yeah, I'd even pay the damn $300 for one of Verizon's high-end smartphone before I took one from Sprint for $50.
42. Cwebb (Posts: 501; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
Slighty better processor/display, LTE is based on if its in your area, and a keyboard... Your really using that as a plus!?!? Your phone is 4 inches big, a keyboard is a waste of your time. And that $300 your saving by buying a free phone on Sprint makes up for the difference in plans with money leftover. Obviously you already have unlimited data so it doesn't effect you, but I doubt your switching any time soon so I'm pretty much talking to a rock.
43. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5599; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
alot better than the 3D's, slightly better than the Photon's. Verizon's LTE is in plenty of areas. I rarely don't have an LTE signal. the keyboard is a big plus. the advantages to a keyboard slap me in the face every day I use my Razr coming from a Droid 3. I MIGHT eventually trade to a Droid 4. tell that to the people that bought a Razr or a Rezound for a penny or the people that bought a Galaxy Nexus for $120 at launch or even the people that bought a Droid 4 for $100 and don't even talk to anyone that got any BOGOs this past week.
46. Cwebb (Posts: 501; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
That just means that you personally prefer a keyboard, unlike most other smartphone users. I would never buy a Droid, EVER! Too much extra thickness for something that's outdated. And once again, your nit picking with the processors. As far as LTE is concerned, there isn't much of any 4G in good old Michigan, so its not a big deal at all atm. I've used and think its good, but display and battery life are the 1st things I look for in a phone.
47. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5599; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
i used the Droid 4 as an example because i have personal preference for it and was more readily available for me to use as an example being as such but i can use another if you'd like? perhaps the Razr? you can get a BOGO on it for $200 AND get $100 off of a Xyboard if you'd like. i'm actually not nitpicking. it would be obvious to anyone that understands what i'm taking about that anyone that calls it nitpicking just doesn't understand so i'll tell you like my mama told me, stay out of the kool-aid if you don't know the flavor. that's your prerogative guy and for your information understanding the differences between different processors will help you greatly in understanding what should get what kind of battery life.
48. Cwebb (Posts: 501; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
Meh, Razr is only better because its thinner and stronger, but has is going to sell like hotcakes because of the brand recognition. I know more people talking about the Razr now than the iPhone 4S, and these are very smartphone illiterate lol
49. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5599; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
the Razr is also more powerful, it has LTE and it has a better display but yes, it does help that it's a reincarnated Razr in Droid form.
50. Cwebb (Posts: 501; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
Better display? No SuperAMOLED that everyone thinks would make a HTC Dream's display beautiful and worth buying? Not to mention the ugly pentile matrix that makes the phone look like there are lines in the screen. I hate how Moto has been doing that. And I forgot to mention the battery, which is the most noteworthy thing on the phone
51. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5599; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
? the Razr has a SAA display and being that I'm typing this very post on my Razr I'll tell you the Pentile matrix doesn't look too bad at all on this phone, it's definitely better than the Photon's and the Bionic's and slightly better than the Droid 3's. the Eve's display may be a little crisper but it's not a good enough trade off for the addition of Super AMOLED on the Razr. what about the battery?
26. Sniggly (Posts: 7067; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
You can't use Amazon prices for one carrier and official carrier prices for the other, dude. That's logically inconsistent. I mean, hell, we're selling the original DROID RAZR with the 16 gig memory card for 150, or 2 for 200 right now-on new OR upgrade. Also, while Amazon prices may be great, at my store they work a little different-Sprint currently has ZERO decent free phones, while Verizon has a few. Hell, during the holiday sale, we STILL had zero decent free phones on Sprint, while we had the Stratosphere, Incredible 2, Xperia Play, and I think even the Thunderbolt all for free. On AT&T the disparity is even bigger: right now the ATRIX 2, Inspire, Focus Flash and Focus are free; when it was still available, so was the Infuse.
Also, WiMax is a pain in the friggin ass. And Sprint's plans are confusing and more advertisement than real value. They end up being *maybe* ten bucks a month less than the big two.
28. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5599; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
meant to thumb you up, my bad. +1
if you're smart you'll wait for the Galaxy Nexus or a Photon successor that Moto may put out for Sprint's LTE network.
40. Cwebb (Posts: 501; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
1) I'm talking about the phones spec wise that are better than the Photon/3D, and they are selling for $300 new on Verizon/AT&T (Note/SGN/LG's high spec-ed phones) while the Photon/3D are going for under $50. I'm always going to try and find the best price for a phone
2) LTE would be the only reason I'd go to Verizon, and it still isn't in my area and won't be for a while probably. AT&T isn't that much farther ahead of Sprint, and T-Mobile obviously doesn't have it yet.
3) Even $10 less a month for unlimited is worth it (when you change your PRL to Verizon), and gives you a couple hundred for a new phone afterwards. Everything counts
41. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5599; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
I'll shop for the best VALUE for as long as it takes. I traded my Droid 3 all the way up to the Droid Razr and in the end it costed me nothing. being smart and disciplined is what will serve you the best in this smartphone consumer market.
yeah, Verizon has practically lapped all the other carriers in terms of advancing their 4G technologies.
not when you find deals. I haven't spent money on a phone ever since my Devour that I paid $15 bucks for. I always bury the costs in some scheme. the most drastic thing I've done In a while is renew my contract.
14. skymitch89 (Posts: 1063; Member since: 05 Nov 2010)
If a person gets a smartphone and then something better comes out a week later, that person can usually return their "new" phone and get the "newer" phone. It's called the return policy, which is usually only 14 days, and lets a person return their phone, if in new condition with all original parts and accessories, if the person is not "satisfied" with their phone.
15. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5599; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
We're all aware of that. obviously this for beyond the 15 days.
22. remixfa (Posts: 13909; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
Tmobile has had this option for a while. you start getting a discount off the full retail at 12 months, and every 2 months the discount grows until your back at sale price. Copy cats. :)
31. mad5870 (Posts: 60; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
Didn't even know Tmobile had that. Do they advertise it at all? if not they should start. To me personally that is a good selling point.
30. ibap (Posts: 699; Member since: 09 Sep 2009)
I suspect this is because of the ill-will they generated by eliminating their Premier program. I was a VZW customer, and left a couple of years ago because of specific coverage issues - yes, Sprint was better for me where it counted. Sprint has been fine, at significantly lower cost for 3 lines on the family data plan than VZW would have been.