Sprint sets one day sales record thanks to Apple iPhone 4S, AT&T activation mark falls
0. phoneArena 15 Oct 2011, 15:01 posted on
Sprint on Friday broke its record for sales in one day thanks to the carrier being able to offer the Apple iPhone 4S and iPhone 4 to its customers; meanwhile, over at AT&T, records were also set for the most activations in one day...
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41. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
And here fandroids go again using friends and family as proof in arguments which no one can verify.
I have 8 friends who just got the iPhone 4S and they got promotions at work because their bosses were so impressed with their intelligent choices.
58. Whateverman (Posts: 3187; Member since: 17 May 2009)
Why does that bother you so much? Did it ever occur to you tba maybe some Android users tell stories about their friends and families because they don't use iphones themselves? Why is that such a bad thing?
But I personally experienced something similar. it took over 6 hours for me to update my ipad to ios 5. If that were my phone I would probably be pissed so thank goodness it was just my iPad. So hopefully this will all be corrected once were able to do ota update.
65. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
I had a classmate that bricked his i4 doing the iOS update and I had another that had no issue.
Taco, its well documented that older iphone users were having issues with the update to iOS5. Try informing yourself before talking.
105. dan323 (Posts: 3; Member since: 16 Oct 2011)
I have a iphone 3gs and it is true it took multiple trys before I was able to get ios5 to update. But this thread is funny. Everyone has their own taste,some like hamburgers and some like hot dogs. If the phone does what you want it to do then nothing else matters. I have apps that are very important to me and not all can be found on android yet. My Son recently changed from an iphone to the SGS2 and he loves it. The phone does what he wants it to do,as my 3gs does what I want it to do. But carry on I am enjoying the reading.
30. networkdood (Posts: 6250; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
ok, in fairness this is a pro-iphone video:
Apple lovers video:
40. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Well guys just as I predicted the iPhone is breaking records. It feels good to have reality back you up. Now watch android market share take a hit.
44. Alantef (Posts: 278; Member since: 14 Sep 2011)
how is Google gonna take a hit???....so i guess no one is waiting for the prime and other android devices?....and we are just talking about sprint right? Verizon, at&t and t mobile aren't gonna sale more android devices than apple for the rest of the year ????
45. Sniggly (Posts: 6698; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
We'll get back to you in a couple of months when the numbers come back and Android is still number one. :)
50. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Hey that's the great thing about facts. If I'm wrong the facts will prove it. I believe android market share will go down.
Alan no one other than tech geeks cares about the prime.
47. Problems 123 (unregistered)
I see problems down the road as well as new tech. First off the problems: IOS 5 has very similar things to todays android phones. For example the new notification system on IOS 5 is just like androids, so I can see google using this as part of there plan to stop apple from suing, and google will use this to sue apple back.
The good: iphones 4s has nothing mind blowing or revolutionary, siring is ok, but many high end android users already have this system in the form of clinging or voice search, it might not talk back but it does what you tell it to do. Since the new iphones made outstanding sales, creating competition with android and other platforms (although apple doesn't like that apparently)
48. Sniggly (Posts: 6698; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Literally the only reasons I've been getting from people who have been getting the iPhone 4S are "it's got Siri" or "I have an iPhone and love it and will never try anything else but an iPhone no matter how awesome it is, baa baa" and once "I tried this crappy old Samsung Android phone and am never willing to try Android again no matter how awesome it is."
One kid had an iPhone 4 and was only getting the 4S because his dad insisted on it. I showed the guy the SGS2 and the Atrix and he liked both way better.
None of them had ever tried out a serious Android offering before. None of them cared about the dozens of advantages that Android offered. This is the reality. Apple did a perfect job of marketing. Now they'll rake in their billions while they're being worshipped by their starstruck fans.
But we still sold plenty of Android phones today. :)
51. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Another failure of a day in your pathetic life trying to talk people into buying something they don't want because YOU like it better.
All those are valid reasons
I like Apple products
I've tried android and it sucked
I want to get Siri
That's what you don't get. Android isn't better just because you like it better. Not everyone wants to hack their phone just to get it to work right.
54. Sniggly (Posts: 6698; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Again you exaggerate. I've never had to root any of my phones. And most others don't either.
And how was YOUR day, Taco? My day was really good. Just shaking my head at how retarded some people are. Am I a failure if I successfully steer all but the really brand loyal people away from the iPhone?
At least I try to offer people something different so they can make an informed decision.
66. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
being able to steer people is the sign of a good salesman last I checked. Taco, you should get a job, then you might understand what being a good employee is :0
71. ardent1 (Posts: 1991; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
Just like remixfa telling the world he know US GAAP and how RD expenses belong in gross margins.
remixfa, you are such the villiage idiot.
72. ardent1 (Posts: 1991; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
sniggly, you like to put your foot in your mouth and you are doing it again.
The Atrix bombed because you can get fingerprints off the screen and thus override the biometric secuirty feature. Did you tell the Dad that simple point? Do you know what I am talking about? Why did you think Motorola eliminated the biometric feature in the Atrix 2 (maybe it had to do with a security/design flaw).
Also, the Atrix bombed as a PC replacement.
BTW, I tried the stocked Andriod that came with the Motorola Triumph and I wasn't impressed plus the battery life sucks. I am only keeping it since I get unlimited 3G of data from Virgin for $25 a month.
Lastly, lots of the android sold are bargain basement phones.
75. Sniggly (Posts: 6698; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Every security feature has workarounds, Ardent. Your average village idiot isn't going to figure out the fingerprint on screen bulls**t. And for me it's a quick and convenient way to lock my phone.
Anyway, I wasn't selling him on the fingerprint feature. I was selling him on the fact that it's a damn good smartphone with great features for a quarter of the price of a 16 gigabyte iPhone 4/S.
And besides, you're going to judge Android on the Triumph? In some ways it's okay, but it has one of the weakest batteries you'll find in a smartphone. If you're going to judge stock Android check out a Nexus S. Smooth running phone, lemme tell ya.
My original point was that I am not a clerk. I am a salesman. I am there to inform and educate, and if I believe that better options exist for the price, I'm going to present them. And if someone tries Android, like really tries it without the bias of "it's not an iPhone," and doesn't like it, fine. Okay. But to me it's frustrating to see people who are so willing to walk into the pen and pull the gate shut and lock it on themselves, without even checking out the pasture.
94. ardent1 (Posts: 1991; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
"Anyway, I wasn't selling him on the fingerprint feature."
Because you didn't want to tell the guy his phone can be compromised. Yes, we understand this very well that fact might case the person NOT to buy the Atrix. You just want to make a sale -- look up the word "UNCTUOUS" because that describes you to a T. Like I said that is why that feature was removed on the Atrix 2.
"I was selling him on the fact that it's a damn good smartphone with great features for a quarter of the price of a 16 gigabyte iPhone 4/S."
Did you also tell him the iPhone 4/S tend to higher resale values, other things being equal, than compared to non-iPhones?
"And besides, you're going to judge Android on the Triumph?"
I spent $300 on the Triumph because it has stock android, meaning it's the purest android I can test without being biased to a manfucture's own software running on top of android. Plus I got 300 minutes and unlimited 3G data all for $25 a month. The unlimited 3G data is a great deal.
"My original point was that I am not a clerk. I am a salesman. I am there to inform and educate"
You are trying to advance your own agenda, your own propaganda and you tend to put your foot in your mouth. If you can advance your own agenda, then so can I or anyone else that disagrees with YOU!!!
Remember this sniggly, when I first corrected your posts for mistaken, you responded by calling me names and trying to intimidate me. Guess what, you reap what you sow!! I am a very good fact checker.
Do you still remember your post: "you've just committed a critical error. Apple has made exactly one patent payment in the mobile industry in the past several years, which was to Nokia, and only after a dragged out lawsuit. They have flatly refused to pay anyone else who has brought patents to bear against them, the biggest offense being their refusal to pay anything to Motorola. Hence the lawsuits against them."
That is the kind of bullsh*t you like to spew or what I have been referring to as putting your foot in your mouth. I have been reading and researching Apple's lawsuits and it's not easy to get accurate results. But when I pointed out Apple has won and lose IP lawsuits, you went ballastic. sniggly, people like you like fiction over fact. In contrast, people like me are FACT BASED.
101. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Sniggly also claimed Apple sued Motorola first until I proved him wrong
Sniggly automatically believes anything negative about Apple with zero fact checking.
108. Sniggly (Posts: 6698; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Hi Taco. Would you really like me to troll old posts for all the times you've been wrong? Because I would go over the character limit with even a brief synopsis of your wrongness.
Yes, I can be wrong. This is not news. But what makes me the better person here is that if I am wrong, I admit it, whereas YOU will simply shut up on the subject.
So I'll leave you with this to chew on: 52 percent.
103. cnwwyo (Posts: 125; Member since: 26 May 2011)
Looks like somebody wants a job...lol , anybody lookin for a "really good fact checker"? loooooooool
107. Sniggly (Posts: 6698; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Riddle me this, Ardent: how come, when I google for issues with the Atrix fingerprint scanner, nothing comes up about being able to fool it in the way you described? All articles I found about fingerprint scanners being fooled pertained to laptops. If you can provide an article which gives proof that Motorola removed that feature from the Atrix for the reason you stated, that'd be awesome.
Secondly, I'm insulted that you would accuse me of dishonesty as a salesman. You don't know me, you don't watch me sell. I'm actually too honest for my own good sometimes. I will make sure the customer knows everything they need to know. If you prove that hacking the Atrix is such a widespread issue, instead of pulling conjecture out of your ass, then I will stop pointing out the fingerprint scanner as a feature and instead focus more on PIN or pattern locks.
Understand this, Ardent: I'm also a very good fact checker. If I'm wrong, I admit it. This is more than I can say for you. Whenever I've proven you wrong or clarified my original meaning, you up and disappear. There are a few occasions where I have said, clear as day, "huh. I was wrong about that." When's the last time you've had the goddamn grace to stop being a bitter, hateful son of a bitch, man up, and do the same?
The dispute over Apple's lawsuits was a good example of this. I clarified that I was talking about patent disputes related to the iPhone, and my overarching point was that it takes drawn out legal battles for Apple to pay anyone else for their IP related to the iPhone, but god forbid anyone else in the market use a touchscreen that has pinch to zoom. Did you recognize my clarification? Nooope.
Furthermore, I'll grant you seem to like to make sure facts are straight, but from post one every time you come in you start off with this hateful, bitter attitude toward me. You can't f**king stand the idea that I post here, it seems. I have no problem with people disputing what I have to say, that's fine. But when you're a pretentious asshole about it, insulting my intelligence, my record of posting facts, and most of all my PERSONAL FU.CKING INTEGRITY, yes, you're going to piss me off.
So will you be a man and respond this time, or conveniently ignore my post AGAIN?
113. Sniggly (Posts: 6698; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
One more thing, Ardent:
I get that Virgin is a *great deal,* although you seem to be pushing it an awful lot. However, there are other phones out there with a pure Android experience (and a BETTER one at that). What makes me think so? The weaksauce battery on the Triumph for one, and the fact that it's STILL f**kING RUNNING FROYO. I mean, if you're going to judge all pure Android on one phone, why not go and pick up a G1, for Chrissakes?
The fact remains that the best phone to judge pure Android on remains the Nexus S. Despite being out of date spec wise, I've seen it run really well, and customers love it. It has a stronger battery, more solid design, and it's running Gingerbread, which in my very honest opinion is the best version of Android ever released.
119. Sniggly (Posts: 6698; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
By the way,
In this article right here:
We have an example of exactly what I'm talking about. In this article you made the clear claim that Google had lost its lawsuit against Oracle, when in fact...
The case has yet to actually go to trial, Oracle's damage claims were dismissed, and last we heard the two companies were trying to reach a settlement agreement.
Yet when I pointed this out to you, you vanished completely, only to pop up in another article down the road.
So much for being a great fact checker.
120. vette21man (Posts: 351; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)
Agreed Sniggly. I may prefer iPhone, but I do not go around saying that iPhone is the best and will work for everyone. Anyone that comes to me with the question, "What device should I get?" It's never a simple, "Android" or "iPhone". It's, "What are your needs?" As a Systems Engineer, it's about feeling out what the customer wants, not biasing your thoughts and opinions first, and then TELLING them what THEY need.
121. Sniggly (Posts: 6698; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Right you are, and for the people who have absolutely insisted on the iPhone, I only give them kind of an "are you absolutely sure you wouldn't like to see something else just for grins and giggles?" before complying and getting them set up on an iPhone.
83. Slammer (Posts: 942; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)
Voice recognition of this type is nothing new. I've actually been using Vlingo on Android for awhile now. It is really intuitive. Siri definitely advances on the voice recognition platform. It's impressive. But as I said earlier, Google, Vlingo and third party app developers, will leapfrog Siri. That's what technology does.
52. Johnny_Mnemonic (Posts: 240; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
Now that jobs is no longer, the isheep are lost and confused don't worry isheep android will take care of you lol taco is going to be the first in line
61. Whateverman (Posts: 3187; Member since: 17 May 2009)
Othe OEMs and OSs can definintly smell the blood in the water. Steve Jobs was so involved in every product that his persona became part of the company. The next two products will be record breakers as well, because they will still carry part of the SJ seal of approval. But the next two devices (iPhone 6 and 6S) will be a crossroads for Apple in the mobile industry.
If Tim Cook can guide product development with Steve Jobs-like innovation while still adding bits of what Android users are looking for (bigger screens, form factors, customization) they will eventually overthrow Android. If not, Google is going to blow up even more then it already is and start pilfering some of Apple's marketshare as well. Especially since they have pissed of and sued just about any and every ally they've had. Tim Cook is going to be tested by everyone from suppliers, manufactures, and even the iOS loyalists. So he better have the nads to make Apple HIS. Cause I'm NOT going back to PCs!
53. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 2927; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)
Ahh, the epic battle of Sniggly vs Taco continues! People don't come here for the articles, rumors, or reviews. No they come here for the ultimate show down!
56. Sniggly (Posts: 6698; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Lol. The battle continues despite my protests.
55. elandrumiii (Posts: 109; Member since: 20 Mar 2010)
Had 3 android devices HTC, LG, Samsung. Nice phones and the mad phone calls and everything. Nice apps and all. Didnt like the first three iPhones. I was against them until the iPhone4. I really like the 4S because of the global ability. I have no LTE or WiMAX coverage where I live or work. I go a block down the street from home or work and I have it. So I could care less about who has the faster or better coverage because it aint happening for me. I am movin to the iPhone becasue I like it and I am an Apple computer user. My voice service/control feature has never worked right on any of my android phones. But thats not my selling point. So its either VZW or Sprint for the 4S because of the better data packages.
57. J215 (unregistered)
I left adroid for apple friday and im going to return once i get the offical specs for the Nexus Prime. Here are my problems with apple iphone4s
1.You can't delete photos you put on your iphone from your computer
2. Its syncs some videos put it doesnt sync all video it can't read all my videos I want to place on my iphone
3. you cant post videos from iphone4s to FB
4. you cant post youtube videos to FB
There were things i did like about the iphone4s
1. The design
2. The camera
3. The reitna display
BUT IM GOING BACK TO DROID
122. vette21man (Posts: 351; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)
Not fighting you, just simply telling you workarounds for what you find as shortcomings.
1.You can't delete photos you put on your iphone from your computer
Yes you can. Simply open up the iPhone in "My Computer," just like you would any other drive or device. Contains all photos/videos on the device.
2. Its syncs some videos put it doesnt sync all video it can't read all my videos I want to place on my iphone
Not sure what you mean by this, but you can easily convert any videos to iPhone compatible versions using HandBrake.
3. you cant post videos from iphone4s to FB
Actually, you can. From the FB app, you can post videos and photos residing in any of your photo albums on your device.
4. you cant post youtube videos to FB
Workaround, you can do this on youTube's website in Safari. I simply made a Homescreen icon that is a bookmark to youTube.
60. nobody special (unregistered)
This reminds me of something. I am an avid Harley Davidson motorcycle enthusiast. I have had numerous types of HD's in the past, and will always be my motorcycle of choice. I will relate this to the Apple vs. Android debate. I will compare Android to HD, and Apple to say BMW, or any other high end metric motorcycle. The BMW, or other high end metric motorcycles right off the showroom floor run flawless. There is no tampering whatsoever. Start the motor and ride it forever. On the other hand, HD, off the showroom floor, start the motor and ride it forever. BUT, HD in stock format is restricted. 99% of HD owners immediately change the exhaust, air cleaner and remap the computer fuel cells to attain it's potential. Apple stock is awesome, Android stock is OK, until you tweak the OS. BTW I have had both Android and Apple, both are great phones and you cannot go wrong either way it's all personal preference.
68. humboldt1 (unregistered)
Go to the sprint forums/phones and devices. Its hilarious seeing all of the crapple tools crying about problems activating,syncing,etc...
One idiot posted a thread saying now his sprint iPhone can't receive Verizon texts,which I don't believe but either way is funny as hell
69. gemmabba (Posts: 51; Member since: 09 May 2011)
everytime taco comments, he remind me of eric cartman holding jlo puppet and sing taco flavored kisses
81. Sniggly (Posts: 6698; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Agreed. I don't care how good the point is or what side you're on, if you type the whole post in caps I gloss over it.
77. Packer29 (Posts: 56; Member since: 10 Sep 2011)
Well android it's been fun but it was time to come back home to ios and the iPhone 4s!
79. Sniggly (Posts: 6698; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Buh bye. Want me to lock the gate behind you?
86. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
See he just said bye android. That means he's been using android and PREFERS iOS. To you he's a sheep? How is that if he's tried both?
That's your problem. You can't accept that android isn't the best for everyone and there are a lot of people that make informed choices and like iPhone better.
82. Dj21o (Posts: 437; Member since: 19 May 2011)
After reading Rory's comment, and some of the iPhone articles, it doesn't seem too bad. I, personally, think that syncing EVERYTHING through i-Tunes is a problem. If they added an SD card and allowed a little more access to system files, I would switch. That would open a whole new line of development on XDA.
The screen is a problem, too. The resolution is beautiful, but they should make more models with the same internals, but with a bigger screen size (3.5, 4.0, 4.3, 4.5). I really love my Epic Touch, but my resolution is still 480x800. That is the same as my EVO, and it is stretching it out even more.
They did make it look more like Android, but the Widgets in the pulldown bar a really cool experience.
Maybe a year from now (when prices go down), I will consider getting one. But, for now, I am going to keep my EpicTouch.
102. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Dj finally a reasonable comment from you. I can see how iTunes can be a turn off for some people. I don't really get the sd card thing though. You can now get a 32 or 64gb version. I don't see how I'd ever need more than that.
The limit to system files is what helps the iPhone be so stable.
106. Dj21o (Posts: 437; Member since: 19 May 2011)
I like having an SDCard because I can store my music, apps, games, all illegally :P. I can make backups of my entire system, in case things do go wrong. Believe me, they happen almost anytime you flash a new ROM, or a theme etc (eventually).
I can share things between my computer through just plugging it in and transferring the files (instead of using SkyDrive or iCloud). This is a good thing, because I don't have to pay for extra storage (IOS), Jobs was smart on doing that lol.
iOS has its perks too, I'm sure you know all about that. I'm not that informed about it. I've had an Android and have used the same SdCard for 4 years now lol.
109. Sniggly (Posts: 6698; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Cost is a big factor. Why pay 300 bucks for a 32 gig iPhone when you can just throw a 20 buck 16 gig SD card into a 200 buck 16 gig Galaxy S 2?
That's just one reason.
One I like is that in order to sync my music from my DROID X to my Atrix, I followed these simple steps:
1. Take card out of DROID X.
2. Pop card into Atrix.
110. Dj21o (Posts: 437; Member since: 19 May 2011)
Lol, that is true. It is kind of ridiculous they charge you for that feature. I personally wouldn't want it any other way, than have it on an SD card. Syncing all of your photos, videos, music, and god knows else to Apple servers leaves all of your personal information in the palms of their hands. I wipe my entire phone before I take it into Sprint, every single time. I don't trust anyone with one file of mine. But I'm paranoid lol.
If IOS can manage to squeeze that into next years release, I'd strongly consider one. I just have too much stuff I can do on Android for free. I am what you would call a free loader lol.
111. Sniggly (Posts: 6698; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Lol, I agree that the amount of free services (like Google Navigation/Maps/Places, Docs, Music) is fantastic. And it's not like Apple couldn't afford to offer different services or features for free or even at reduced cost. The amounts that they do charge guarantee the obscene profits they make.
114. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Hey iCloud is actually free. You get free storage for 5gb. Google even charges for over 2gb of Picasa storage.
Google does offer a lot of free services though
117. Dj21o (Posts: 437; Member since: 19 May 2011)
Yeah, I guess you have to pay somewhere regardless of what you get... Thank God for the SD card. Anyways, I really like the new WP7 Mango. All the courtroom problems with Android and iOS makes me want to go in a completely opposite direction. The phones are also cheaper, and I have an insider that works for Sprint, and they said a a big touch screen is in the works for WP7, and the Microsoft rep came in and showed everyone Mango. From the sounds of it, the new and improved OS seems to have a decent future. Why wouldn't they? Android pretty much is paving the way for their success. $$$.
123. vette21man (Posts: 351; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)
Sniggly, I still think your "one-time cost" argument isn't any reason to get one smartphone over another. You must consider the overall experience with the device as a much larger factor. You are paying north of $2,000 over 24mos on your carrier's plan. In comparison, $300 vs $220 is a drop in the bucket.
112. Sniggly (Posts: 6698; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
I can't wait for the lawsuits against Apple naming Siri as an accomplice in crimes because she'll actually tell you where you can bury bodies.
115. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
I actually asked it that and it pulled up cemeteries lol
116. Sniggly (Posts: 6698; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Sorry, I meant that she'll actually tell you where to *hide* bodies. If you ask her that, she'll tell you something like "reservoirs, swamps," etc. Again, I do like that the Apple guys sat down and tried to be clever with her responses.
118. Dj21o (Posts: 437; Member since: 19 May 2011)
That is f**king awesome lol. Ask it how to wipe your ass or change a tire on a car lmfao!