Sprint may consider purchasing T-Mobile in early 2014
1. ZeroCide (Posts: 662; Member since: 09 Jan 2013)
That would be huge... womder if softbank would let them.
14. toiletcleaner (Posts: 176; Member since: 10 Oct 2012)
I don't care. I'm a Verizon costumer, love it or hate it
21. a_merryman (Posts: 516; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)
If there is any truth to the rumors it is probably Softbank that is telling them to look at it. After all, T-Mobile was the backup plan if the Sprint/Clearwire deal didn't work. And Masayoshi Son wants to build a network that is better than AT&T or VZW
43. phonetekmek (Posts: 42; Member since: 04 Oct 2013)
Softbank would be the ones considering the proposal. They pull the strings as being the majority owner of the company. I would be interested in seeing this happen as. It would shake up the power structure in the industry.
56. DonkeySauce (Posts: 134; Member since: 03 Dec 2011)
ZeroCide, this is most likely something Softbank is pushing for.
2. HASHTAG (unregistered)
No, no, just no! With Sprint not being able to run its own network efficiently, this would be a bad move on both sides.
34. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5155; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Sprint hasn't exactly got the technology integration thing down. By the vast majority of accounts, they biffed the Nextel integration effort. What makes them think they can integrate T-Mo?
3. MartyK (Posts: 665; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)
Only if T-Mobile run the show! ..T-Mobile has a better management team.
Sprint should be in charge of the financial part only! ..no decision making at all.
27. -box- (Posts: 3537; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
Their financial arm kind of sucks, too. Remember the failed Clearwire deal, the billions lost on the iphone deal, the cluster***k of the Nextel merger/acquisition, etc.
Sprint could fail tomorrow and I wouldn't notice. I hope they could do better though, since they're based out of my home state IIRC
4. torr310 (Posts: 288; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)
T-Mobile is better off by themselves... Sprint sucks!
5. Landmarkcm (Posts: 349; Member since: 11 Aug 2009)
Oh He double hockey sticks! NO So many questions come to mind. As I Happily enjoy Tmobiles HSPA+ etc and Sprint talks about LTE and they cant even get there 3g together. I am waiting for the day for Tmobile to overtake Sprint as the number 3 carrier. NOT for Sprint to buy them & start messing up the good they have done! Two different networks and I know there not going to eliminate the GSM . It would be a debacle
7. JEverettnow (Posts: 136; Member since: 11 Mar 2013)
The 3g is getting much better. I have pulled anywhere from 300kbps to 3mbps on 3g recently. 2 months ago I couldn't stream music while driving around the upper central valley in Norcal and now I never get any skips. Youtube videos even load for me as well. 4g has been popping up everywhere for me also.
9. Landmarkcm (Posts: 349; Member since: 11 Aug 2009)
Glad its working for you. In Vegas & other major areas Sprint is the worst its been proven overall . They are also the only carrier now for me that drops calls where I live. Let alone there pathetic data. Now there wasting time and money on this "Spark" thing. Also of course the beauty with Tmobile is the ability of unlocked devices like the Moto G I am soon planning to be using.
17. JEverettnow (Posts: 136; Member since: 11 Mar 2013)
I've heard that Vegas is pretty bad. I am in a WIMAX area so that will be converted to spark fairly easily. Regardless if sprint gets better soon the last few years have swayed people for life. Sprint can become the best network in the country and it won't matter. Too many people hate us now.
6. JEverettnow (Posts: 136; Member since: 11 Mar 2013)
T-mobile doesn't have the infrastructure to allow them to pass Sprint. If sprint did aquire T-Mobile they should fire Dan Hesse and keep T-Mobile's CEO. If Sprint had never aquired Nextel they might be sitting pretty right now. The only thing good about the Nextel purchase was the spectrum it provided. I see a similar thing happening with t-mobile. T-mobile is nice on their own like nextel was, but it just won't work with Sprint's existing network so this almost appears to be another Nextel situation.
Maybe they see this as a way to eliminate the only competition that was causing prices to drastically drop. If Sprint purchases T-mobile than there will be no more low price competition and so the big 3 could keep their exisiting high prices and the big 2 could keep their data caps.
8. Landmarkcm (Posts: 349; Member since: 11 Aug 2009)
There actually have been several articles though explaining that if Tmobile keeps up the momentum there currently on & Sprint keeps declining That Tmobile indeed in a year or so could surpass them.
52. Zero0 (Posts: 557; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
I don't think T-Mobile will pass Sprint in the foreseeable future.
One year to take the third spot is extremely generous unless there is an Uncarrier Phase 4 and Sprint royally screws something up. Go much further beyond a one year time-span, and Sprint should be pretty far along in its recovery.
11. Landmarkcm (Posts: 349; Member since: 11 Aug 2009)
Ya im not really worried I doubt it would get approved.
12. cncrim (Posts: 381; Member since: 15 Aug 2011)
LOL, KNOCK KNOCK hello remember ATT and Tmobile try to merge? It is the same scenario, therefore NOT going to happen. Sprint can't run business the one she has now, how will she handle more load?
18. a_merryman (Posts: 516; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)
You know, except for the fact that even if Sprint bought T-mobile, the new company would still be smaller than AT&T or Verizon. Unlike if AT&T had bought T-mobile, which would have resulted in only one GSM carrier (which matters to international visitors since they don't have CDMA much overseas) and the new AT&T/T-Mobile company would have about half of America's wireless subscribers instead of just shy of 1/3 like a Sprint/T-mobile company would.
So you know, aside from the whole main argument against the AT&T buyout, sure it's the same scenario ;)
And Sprint works great for me in the DC area, get LTE in most places at good speeds, and the coverage is getting even better (Although I had already found it to be better than my friends on AT&T in the area.) thanks to rebuilding the entire network and using their 800 MHz from Nextel to fill in the gaps and provide for building penetration. The load wont matter by the time they shutter one network or the other since Sprint plans to use the massive amounts of 2.5 GHz spectrum it has.
I would imagine if a buyout happened they would keep both networks running as Sprint puts T-mobile's HSPA+ network all over their towers while Sprint continues with its LTE buildout. Require all new phones on the networks to be like the Nexus 5 (all the bands), and once enough people switch onto new phones and onto the new HSPA+ network, Sprint could start to take carriers off their CDMA network and use the spectrum for more LTE carriers.
39. JGuinan007 (Posts: 598; Member since: 19 May 2011)
Um if Sprint buys T-Mobile wouldn't they convert T-Mobile network to CDMA and wouldn't that then mean AT&T would be the only GSM Carrier in USA
41. andynaija (Posts: 309; Member since: 08 Sep 2012)
No because it's not going to happen ;).
But in all seriousness it wouldn't work out because GSM is widely used around the world more than CDMA and it really favors foreign and international mobile users, so it wouldn't be logical to convert existing GSM to CDMA.
13. gd761 (Posts: 92; Member since: 18 Sep 2012)
IF, Sprint goes to Buy T-Mobile and Sprint does things Right, then it can work out.
Sprint and T-Mobile Both have LTE. If the LTE between them is standardized then that would be one Obstacle Avoided.
The Next thing is CDMA & GSM. Sprint can phaseout the CDMA Network and Switch over to the GSM Network.
Once Sprint Buys T-Mobile and has a LTE/GSM Network like Everyone Else, then Sprint can get All of the Same Phones as Everyone Else has gotten and left Sprint in their Dust.
With Softbank overseeing the whole Merger and Acquisition of T-Mobile and helping Sprint to become a Major Player like what Softbank has done in the Past, then I think that if the Right steps are taken in the right order, All of this Can Work and also put Pressure on AT&T & Verizon.
This is Just My Opinion.
What do You Think or Feel About This?
20. a_merryman (Posts: 516; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)
Exactly how I see it happening as well. While they build out the GSM network they require phones to be like the iPhone or Nexus 5 so that people wont notice a degradation in cell service, or just have all the new phones only carry the new networks LTE and GSM bands, since it shouldn't take too long to add HSPA+ to Sprint's new network vision towers as they will be able to handle it when it is all done (waiting on backhaul for most place now :/)
I think it would be a fairly easy transition and would result in by far the best network in the country.
---I also think it is an AWFUL idea.---- We do not need less competition in the telecom industry, it is bad for consumers. Just look at the cable industry, or the cellular providers in Canada. Oligopolies are bad for consumers. I'd much prefer Sprint and T-Mobile buy out the last regional providers. I also think that during the 600 MHz spectrum auction, most of the spectrum needs to go to Sprint and T-Mobile in order to help them further build out networks that can compete with AT&T/VZW. Lowband spectrum makes it easier to provide better in building coverage and cover greater distances for cheaper, and guess which two cell companies have most of the lowband spectrum in the country.
30. Professor (Posts: 97; Member since: 02 Aug 2013)
If Sprint buy T-mobile I switch from T-mobile to Verizon or AT&T (even if I have to go back to paying double every month) before the ink in their signatures dry out...
40. cripton805 (Posts: 897; Member since: 18 Mar 2012)
It wouldnt make sense to shut down the CDMA network they have been dumping a lot of money into and it has more users on their CDMA network than Tmobile does on its GSM. The GSM network would be shut down, but it would be at least until 2016 probably.
Although, I have no doubt that the government wouldnt allow the merge anyway. So it doesnt even matter.
55. o0Exia0o (Posts: 256; Member since: 01 Feb 2013)
I, in my opinion, disagree with you. It would make no sence to continue on with CDMA when EVERYONE is moving to GSM. LTE is the next generation GSM network that every one is moving on to. So why would you continue building CDMA and LTE (next gen. GSM) when you have a chance to close out the CDMA network and reframe it for LTE and save on the costs? I could see Sprint moving a bulk thier busness over to T-Mo's GSM network , save for some areas that T-Mo does not cover, and reframing thier network for LTE. Just my opinion though.
15. Jeradiah3 (Posts: 925; Member since: 11 Feb 2010)
Shouldn't this be..........oh I dont know............the other way around lol
16. Killertech2099 (Posts: 117; Member since: 28 Sep 2013)
I rather have at&t and tmobile working together then sprint. Sprint is horrible with plans i like to keep my no contract. If that happens tmobile better be running it they'll call it spit mobile
19. ajac09 (Posts: 1167; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)
I doubt tmobiles owners would let sprint even put in an offer after rallying everyone against tmobile/AT&T
48. JEverettnow (Posts: 136; Member since: 11 Mar 2013)
What t-mobile has been trying to do is bring more value to their company. Sprint has been thinking of purchasing T-Mobile and Metro PCS for years. Now that T-Mobile is becoming a threat by creating competition they just want to buy them out rather than give up their #3 spot. Deutsch Telecom has been trying to get rid of T-Mobile for a long time as well. I am sure they will entertain offers.
51. Zero0 (Posts: 557; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
I don't think T-Mobile is moving in the direction of a sale at this point in time.
You don't raise $3 billion for a 700MHz purchase to sell to a company who already has three zillion spectrum licenses.
22. miguel5510 (Posts: 2; Member since: 13 Dec 2013)
I strongly disagree no! Tmobile has improve tremendously over the past 9 month tmobile is better off by themselves.Sprint has horrible coverage & hasn't much improve GO TMOBILE KEEP IT UP!!!
31. Jeradiah3 (Posts: 925; Member since: 11 Feb 2010)
I dont even have Tmobile and i totally agree with your comment. Theres no reason for this "supposed" merger.
23. Android4Ever (Posts: 85; Member since: 12 Aug 2013)
F sprint! I really hope T-Mobile does not sell out. I'm loving the unlimited EVERYTHING (no throttling) for $70 a month that T-Mobile provides...
24. Professor (Posts: 97; Member since: 02 Aug 2013)
No. No. No. This will be the death for T-mobile.
Sprint screws everything and anything they get their hands off. Remember Nextel and when Boost phones used to be the phones to have due to their walkie-talkie feature before Sprint took over and eliminated the only advantage those phones had over the competition. And for what? At least here in NYC if you want to use or get a phone call with a Sprint (or Boost) phone you have to be outside of a building, or glued to a glass window!
T-mobile signal may not be as strong as Verizon or AT&T in some places but at least they have signal. Sprint or Boost phones have no signal at all. And that's without counting Sprint super fast 2G internet signal (that's if you can get any signal at all). Oh. Yeah. True. Sprint claims they have 4G LTE signal. I just don't know where? Maybe they have 1 pole with LTE in the lower Manhattan so they can claim they have LTE in NYC.
50. Zero0 (Posts: 557; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
The combined carrier would almost immediately be a technological powerhouse, I think.
The problem is that we'll have three powerhouse carriers, and only those three. What we need is for Sprint and T-Mobile to independently take market share from AT&T and Verizon. T-Mobile is already doing this to an extent, and Sprint has taken steps to make this possible. Four solid carriers means better service and better prices than three solid carriers.
25. Topcat488 (Posts: 982; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)
This reminds me of when Porsche tried to buyout Volkswagen... Now Volkswagen owns Porsche!!! Sometimes the "Hunter becomes the Hunted". Sprint sounds like a silly wabbit!
26. EnigmaticPsychotic (Posts: 10; Member since: 26 Nov 2013)
28. bugsbunny00 (Posts: 689; Member since: 07 Jun 2013)
T-mobile you're now(to be) #third largest among the four in u.s.and sprint knows it,just keep on going don't look back.
29. tatail (Posts: 63; Member since: 08 Jan 2010)
Oh, Sprint May Consider.. I see.
Well I did this consideration last night but for now I have decided I will not consider considering of buying T-Mobile until I am rich enough..
32. N-fanboy (Posts: 445; Member since: 12 Jan 2013)
If they were to merge, would they (or 'it') be bigger than at&t and Verizon?
35. a_merryman (Posts: 516; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)
They would still be the smallest of the 3 left
38. andynaija (Posts: 309; Member since: 08 Sep 2012)
NO, NO, AND NO!!! T-Mobile is better off by themselves and it should stay that way Go T-Mo.
Right now Sprint needs to prioritize and figure out their situation and improve themselves before trying to even THINK about doing something like this.
42. axllebeer (Posts: 250; Member since: 05 Apr 2011)
So, yeah. Apples to oranges. CDMA is completely not compatible with a GSM based system. So I don't get it. Hell, while we're at it why doesn't Sprint bring back Nextel and not be compatible with that technology too! Ahhhhh, (facepalm)
44. PapaSmurf (Posts: 5928; Member since: 14 May 2012)
It's possible, but SoftBank would have to dish out money. If the merger goes through, I will cry a little in the inside.
45. axllebeer (Posts: 250; Member since: 05 Apr 2011)
Ya know, it didn't make any sense to me at 1st. Mostly due to the different technologies at play here. CDMA and GSM. But then I remembered that a lot of Sprint phones are indeed world phones. Like mine is. So if this happened from my perspective as a Sprint customer couldn't Sprint just push an update to all their world phones to allow Sprint to utilize T Mobile GSM HSPA+ towers as well as Sprint EV-DO?
46. gd761 (Posts: 92; Member since: 18 Sep 2012)
Sprint and Nextel were Not compatible, but Sprint was able to use their Spectrum.
Sprint Will be shutting off All 2G, and in the Near future, WiMax. Then Reallocate that Spectrum as well.
If Sprint buys T-Mobile, then Sprint can Phaseout CDMA and Reallocate that Spectrum as well and use T-Mobile's GSM Network. With the Spectrum from WiMax and CDMA.
So, with The Purchase of Spectrum that Sprint had Bought and the Spectrum that it got from Clearwire and the Spectrum from Nextel, Sprint Can have Really Great Bandwidth for both Talk and Data.
Just look at All of the Spectrum that Sprint has and ask yourself if Sprint has More Spectrum right now that Both AT&T and Verizon without having purchased T-Mobile yet, What is Sprint going to do with All that Spectrum?
The Answer would be most likely to Divide it up for Talk and Data to Vastly Improve the Quality and Speed in All Areas throughout the Entire Spectrum with More Phones that can and Will take Advantage of their Spark Tech.
49. Zero0 (Posts: 557; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
Here's how I want this thing to go down:
-Sprint offers T-Mobile USA a buyout
-T-Mobile USA takes the offer
-T-Mobile USA and Sprint continue to innovate while they are waiting for the DOJ
-The DOJ strikes down the deal, and T-Mobile walks away with a little bit of extra spectrum
Basically, the AT&T deal all over again, except the buyer doesn't sit on their hands in the meantime. Realistic? I think so.
53. boomsauce55 (Posts: 2; Member since: 06 Nov 2013)
Everyone and their mother had talked about this potential "merger" for years now. Wouldn't pay this any mind...
54. JewBakaUCFG (Posts: 161; Member since: 25 Sep 2012)
Hesse and Legere (sp?) fight. Five rounds in a UFC ring. Winner takes control of the other network.
57. gd761 (Posts: 92; Member since: 18 Sep 2012)
Sprint usually has to wait and pray for Updates to the Phones because of CDMA and other reasons.
If Sprint Buys T-Mobile and phases out CDMA Phones and Reallocates the CDMA Spectrum towards GSM, then there should be No Real Reason as to Why Sprint can't get Regular Updates just like AT&T, and Verizon do for their Phones.
This would be another reason why the Sale of T-Mobile Should go through.
What's Your Opinion on This piece of Info?
59. gd761 (Posts: 92; Member since: 18 Sep 2012)
Yes, but the majority of Phones Worldwide are GSM and they get the First Updates Long before Anyone else.