Source of Apple iPhone 4S battery drain may have been found
0. phoneArena posted on 29 Oct 2011, 19:50
A feature on iOS 5 that automatically sets the time on the Apple iPhone, even when the user has changed time zones, could be the source of the battery drain that users of the new iteration of the smartphone have been complaining about...
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1. networkdood posted on 29 Oct 2011, 20:13 9 5
Cool, I will let my friends know that they do not have to jump off that bridge...good info!
3. akhi216 posted on 29 Oct 2011, 20:39 5 3
Whatever. Imma call bs on these findings. Welcome to the wonderful world of widgets and notifications all you iPhone fanatics. Make sure to keep your chargers handy!
4. The_Miz posted on 29 Oct 2011, 20:46 14 11
Right, because Android phone batteries last soo much longer.
6. andulas posted on 29 Oct 2011, 21:25 9 4
the galaxy note battery life is actually quite phenomenal.
8. networkdood posted on 29 Oct 2011, 21:30 6 5
like I say....12 hrs to 36 hrs depending on usage.....
27. Phullofphil posted on 30 Oct 2011, 03:11 3 0
I have had bot phones for a long time. My I phone 4 has it's share of problems also. My iPad 2 has it's problems. The fact is it is what you do to either that makes the biggest deal on battery drain. I have had both my iPad with the a5 and my iPhone 4 be really choppy in spots like typing right now on my iPad 2 it is always about two taps behind me and in certain situations very iratic and slow. It all depends what I do to it. With android there is less control so it's easier to do but when I first got my bionic if I managed it right and turned off LTE when I did not need it my battery lasted me a long time. As long as any top android. When I started getting a lot of apps that did cool things or modded my phone well you really got to watch what you download and operate. They both have similar hardware and when in stock out of the box have about the same battery life. Moto phones usually have better. Htc the worst cause of sence. Apple is usually better that when you turn screen off it is better at keeping pretty much the same level in battery, unless you altered it with downloads or something to alter how it does it's stuff when in sleep. I wish android was more regulated on that part. If I down load or alter my android cause I really can't help it it is fun to mess with, it is not really sleeping. If your apps are updating every fifteen minutes or more your wasting your battery. Get mor control of app personalities. Both iOS and android have problems when you down too many apps and give apps less control. But most of it is how many are set up to be running at all times. Task killer does not work because those apps will just start back up and use more power than before. People need to be educated about the results and conciquinces of what apps they are downloaded and or what setting they have set up in there settings. There is other reasons but you can google that your self but I believe this to be the main reason. If you are using your phone or especially if you pick your phone up and it's not charging and it's warm or hot than you are having programs or services running in the back round. The heat is electricity leak. Just like the difference between an older light bulb and a florescent bulb. The hard ware for apple and android phones use the same hardware tech. It's not really the operating system. Well unless you alter the settings or there is a bug. Or like if I am in an area that has spotty LTE and my phone is searching for LTE batter leaks fast. That what the problem is in a nut shell. It's all about what you do or download to your phone. I know I found out I could have a bionic with great battery if I manage it right. While still having my bionic used to it's potential. There is better ways than just saying iOS is better than android. There are plenty of forums on this issue. A task manager that limited apps and recources to a certain amount of current unless plugged in controlled by the OS would be a good start. Manually sync apps
28. Phullofphil posted on 30 Oct 2011, 03:29 1 0
That's another good reason getting into rooting and jail breaking should be takin very seriously and you need to really educate yourself or have an older phone you can mess with before jumping to that. You can really hurt or make your device very Inaficiant or even bricked. Bit at the same time really take advantage of very talented developers and have your phone at top speed best performances and still have longer battery life. I am not just talking about downloaded pirated apps either. Yeah my ipadd2 iPhone 4 will be eventually jailbreak. iPhone is on iOS 5.0. And I am assuming with the ini mat update no jailbreak gona come out yet until it gets update. Would be kinda stupid jailbreak untethered and reveal vulnerabilities to soon to get patched. And my android phones rooted. I d that for bettererformance. That's it. I still buy mynapps and support the developers. Any way 99% of the time like imsead above it's your own fault for battery drain.
54. squallz506 posted on 30 Oct 2011, 19:25 0 0
you forgot santa's hat
56. JeffdaBeat posted on 30 Oct 2011, 21:45 0 0
57. XiphiasGladius posted on 30 Oct 2011, 22:42 1 0
Nice one (rant), HTC's battery life sucks due to that heavy skinned UI, unlike other android manufacturers UI's which is more simple the battery life would last longer. and since apples UI is very simple and intuitive the life would obviously last way longer than any android out there. . .
5. DROIDX0430 posted on 29 Oct 2011, 21:16 3 2
What a medicore excuse...wait till lte gets on the next iphone in another year and a half
7. redmd posted on 29 Oct 2011, 21:25 1 0
i think "Setting Time Zone" is not the only bug because i haven't been traveling yet my battery drains faster. but i hope there's a bit of improvement.
9. networkdood posted on 29 Oct 2011, 21:31 1 0
It has nothing to do with traveling...the setting being on, unto itself, has, reportedly, been the issue....turn it off, and who knows.....at least with Android, you get a breakdown of what is being used and you can more easier identify the issue.
23. The_Miz posted on 30 Oct 2011, 02:19 3 0
Not all the time. Sometimes you'll have rogue bloatware or apps running in the background.
10. richk posted on 29 Oct 2011, 21:50 2 0
Good article while i was on system services i also turned off traffic, location based i-ads and diagnostics and usage, which should save me some battery on my iphone 4 :) DONT EVEN KNOW WHY APPLE PUT THEM THERE ANYWAY why does i-ads need to know where i am and diagnostics?
11. earle.evans posted on 29 Oct 2011, 22:13 1 1
i-ads location is for targeting. so when you see an ad it is actually relevant, not just a national ad.
13. richk posted on 29 Oct 2011, 23:16 1 0
my point being it drains my battery using gps to to send me ads so ive turned it off :)
12. ivanko34 posted on 29 Oct 2011, 22:55 4 7
always something is wrong with apple
they just know marketing and put high prices for their poorly designed not tested products
14. zuno gyakusatsu posted on 29 Oct 2011, 23:26 4 7
your thinking of motorola, and samsung. simple typo. you can thank me for the correction some other time.
25. The_Miz posted on 30 Oct 2011, 02:22 4 2
Calm down, Sniggly. We all have an opinion here.
31. Sniggly posted on 30 Oct 2011, 04:15 1 2
He's entitled to his opinion, but all Zuno EVER says is "Android sucks, *insert Android manufacture here* sucks." Then he's gone again. He never qualifies his statements, never offers a reason why he feels the way he does. He just repeats the same bulls**t a priori statement every time he posts, albeit with different wording sometimes.
60. gallitoking posted on 31 Oct 2011, 11:32 0 0
this is a forum.. you dont need to explain nothing..... if that is what he chooses... I rather him not give explanation than give your opinion disguise as facts..like you Sniggly
24. The_Miz posted on 30 Oct 2011, 02:21 3 2
This has got to be the stupidest thing I've read. Look, we get it. You hate Apple. But to call their products poorly designed is stupidly ridiculous. Not saying all phones are like that, but I can think of a lot of Android phones that don't even come close to the build quality of an iPhone.
And while you're there pissing on Apple, just remember the fiasco Samsung has been in regarding their phones have signal issues and such.
36. Leodrade posted on 30 Oct 2011, 09:06 0 1
i agree with you in some parts but talking about signal issues with Samsung when the iPhone 4S anntena is infringing Samsung patents is not a smart move
15. bigboss posted on 29 Oct 2011, 23:28 0 1
You see it in their logo itself. The apple is already eaten and so is not edible for you.
16. bigboss posted on 29 Oct 2011, 23:28 0 1
You see it in their logo itself. The apple is already eaten and so is not edible for you.
17. Johnny_Mnemonic posted on 29 Oct 2011, 23:50 0 0
I think that's not going to fix the problem ,
18. Johnny_Mnemonic posted on 29 Oct 2011, 23:51 4 5
I think that's not going to fix the problem , should get a real smartphone ( droid ) stop buying kids toys like iPhone
19. richk posted on 30 Oct 2011, 00:16 2 4
hmmmm join andriod to get hacked by chineese government and their free apps lol
21. Sniggly posted on 30 Oct 2011, 01:41 2 1
Well, if that fixes the issue, fantastic. However, why is it that when you write this article about this issue is all "this is SO not a big deal, and it's such an EASY fix, nothing to worry about."
However, when we have some bug with an Android phone, we have articles all saying "DOOM AND DESPAIR BE UPON THEE, MORTALS, FOR THERE ART A BUG IN THE SYSTEM! THOUEST SHALL ALL DIE HORRIBLY! SAY YOUR PRAYERS AND MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON YOUR SOUL!!!"
22. ca2l3vin posted on 30 Oct 2011, 01:50 4 0
God you fandroids and iSh*ep irritate the hell outta me. Sometimes I wonder Why do I bother even reading these comments. I work in the phone industry and can tell you that EVERY PHONE HAS SOME SORT OF PROBLEM!!!! sometimes its a simple fix. Sometimes its a slightly bigger issue but the only things us consumers should do is report it to the maker of our phones then expect them to fix it.
Just irritating seeing people looking for iPhone articles to first say how bias phonearena is then the fandroids bash the iphone and the iSh*ep defend with whats wrong with android blah blah blah....its a PHONE. Buy what you want and talk about why you like or dislike but dont go downing people for what they spend their hard earned money on.
So says the guy that owned both but not uses a WP7 :P
32. Sniggly posted on 30 Oct 2011, 04:17 3 3
And then there's the guy who bitches about everyone else arguing. Admit it, without us there wouldn't even be a need for a comments section. :)
26. Stoli89 posted on 30 Oct 2011, 03:00 1 0
Seriously, don't you all know the real problem? You're not holding it correctly!!!!!!
30. nimo posted on 30 Oct 2011, 03:55 0 0
I don't have those options on my Iphone 4s (UK Model)
35. richk posted on 30 Oct 2011, 09:06 0 0
you must do you just cant find it lol ive got it on my iphone 4
33. Heatfan316 posted on 30 Oct 2011, 07:48 1 1
How about this the 4s has a dual-core processor that is why you see this battery drain, welcome to the world of high end specs apple fans it's not the software, single core phones just get better battery life that's a fact, my infuse gets whey better battery life then my g2x in fact my infuse's battery life is on par with the iPhone 4 about one hour difference which is awesome for an android device and that's with a stock rom, it's real simple the more power your phone has the less battery life it will have only technology will solve this problem in the future.
37. richk posted on 30 Oct 2011, 09:09 1 0
thats why i not a fan of all this dual core bussiness in phones just put in the best single core CPU and ill be happy.
39. Habib posted on 30 Oct 2011, 10:12 1 0
And you my friend are wrong!
Dual core actually saves you battery, because it divides the load of work into two cores which in result does not load the core, in return u get lower battery consumption. as far single core, everything runs on ONE core and its loaded which consumes more battery volts( and what not)
41. remixfa posted on 30 Oct 2011, 11:35 2 0
a non optimized dual core doesnt save much battery.. an optimized one does, because it will turn off one of the cores if it can to squeeze out a lil extra juice. but yes, 2 cores barely working uses a lot less voltage than 1 core getting a workout to do the same instruction set.
34. ivanko34 posted on 30 Oct 2011, 08:43 2 3
apple has just to read the source code of android OS to get the solution
38. trin posted on 30 Oct 2011, 09:43 2 0
It's because siri won't stfu! Having a woman babble on insistently can be quite draining.
Lol. I kiid, I kiid. :D
40. richk posted on 30 Oct 2011, 10:19 0 0
i wish phone world would stop increasing the speed and improve the batterys instead.
42. _SavioR_ posted on 30 Oct 2011, 11:47 0 0
I hope an iPhone 4s user can help me and answer my questions....
This is my first iPhone and ive been reading news about this all over... Now, I want to know if my phone is normal or suffering the battery problem as well.
Stand by- in 6 hrs on stand by I lost 5% ( I thought you're not supposed to lose nothing at all on stand by... I made sure I closed any running apps).
Web browsing- every 2 minutes 1% drops. I literally see it too.
Talking on the phone- every 2 -3 minutes 1% drops. Is this normal?????
How is the battery life on the Epic Touch 4g (GS2)?????
43. Sniggly posted on 30 Oct 2011, 12:43 0 0
Savior, think of your phone as a computerized radio, because that's what it actually is. When you're web browsing or talking on the phone it is constantly broadcasting out a signal, picking up a response signal, and translating that signal into what you hear on the speaker or see on your screen. So apart from the screen itself, your radio is definitely going to chew up your battery the fastest. I don't know about a percent every two to three minutes, I'm too lazy to do the math right now, but your phone will die faster when you browse or call.
Also, most Android phones with mixed usage will last you from morning to night at least. It all depends on how much you use your phone, and for what.
44. _SavioR_ posted on 30 Oct 2011, 14:25 0 0
Thanks for the reply Sniggly.
But this is what I copied from apple:
Built-in rechargeable lithium-ion battery
Charging via USB to computer system or power adapter
Talk time: Up to 8 hours on 3G, up to 14 hours on 2G (GSM)
Standby time: Up to 200 hours
Internet use: Up to 6 hours on 3G, up to 9 hours on Wi-Fi
Video playback: Up to 10 hours
Audio playback: Up to 40 hours
I did the math... If I was to talk for an hour, I'd lose 30%.
60 mins.= 30%
3 hrs= 90%.
This from losing 1% every 2 minutes... Which has been happening to me. So, I'm getting 3 hrs plus 20 minutes of talk time on 3G.... Far from what Apple states. Yes, I'm still one of those who uses a phone for phone calls.
47. Sniggly posted on 30 Oct 2011, 15:37 1 0
Yeah, the percentage did seem high to me. Based on that math, your battery does seem to be draining really fast. I know my Atrix lasts a lot longer, and I'm getting good reports on the SGS 2 battery life.
50. _SavioR_ posted on 30 Oct 2011, 18:01 0 0
That's sweet, man. I think I'm gonna put this up on CL and trade for a Nexus S plus $200 cash. I know someone will do it.
If not, just trade it for a E4GT straight across. Nothing against the iPhone, but I need something that will last me hrs without using it. Thanks again, Sniggly.
53. remixfa posted on 30 Oct 2011, 18:56 0 0
best phone/battery u can get right now is going to be the SGS2. PA's test had it lasting 2 days with regular use.
We will see how the nexus actually performs when it is officially launched
61. gallitoking posted on 31 Oct 2011, 13:36 0 0
63. toaster posted on 31 Oct 2011, 19:06 0 0
And the point of that post was...?
If you read those threads beyond the first post instead of just copypasting the first links that searching "galaxy S2 bad battery life" gives you, it's not like there's a single post echoing the OP's sentiments.
Please troll elsewhere, thanks.
55. biophone posted on 30 Oct 2011, 19:33 0 0
Hey lower your brightness and turn off location settings. The iphone's battery life is better then most other smartphones so if you arent satsified with its battery there is not going to be a grest solution. What i would suggest is getting an extended battety pack on a android phone or getting a case for iphone with a extended battery.
49. toaster posted on 30 Oct 2011, 17:20 0 0
Despite the big screens, all of the versions of the GSII (except for the T-Mo version) have markedly good battery life. Obviously you're not going to get a week out of it if you are talking on the phone 24/7, but it is pretty near the top of the pile for an Android phone. The E4GTouch is especially good because of it's super sized battery. The T-Mo version, because of the higher clock speed, gets much worse battery life, but that's a bit irrelevant.
And yeah, putting your phone on standby still drains battery because of the radio. You would have a problem if your battery discharged while the phone was off ;) Those percentages seem high, but make sure Wi-Fi is off when you're not using the Internet, and that your brightness is set to Auto or minimum if you're not outside.
51. _SavioR_ posted on 30 Oct 2011, 18:04 0 0
Yeah bro. Wifi, bluetooth, and some notifications are off. Screen is at default. I even restarted this crap and nothing. I think the Nexus S or E4GT will do better since I haven't been hearing any major problems. E4GT looks nice, but you could never go wrong with a pure stock Android (nexus s). Thanks for your help.
62. toaster posted on 31 Oct 2011, 18:57 0 0
No prob :D That battery life seems horrendous. The only other thing outside of defect that I can think of is that you're browsing in an area where the phone is fighting for 3G signal, making it constantly switch in between 2G and 3G. That affects battery life as well. If that's not the case, I would look into replacing it if possible.
If you're looking for stock Android, don't get the Nexus S seen as the Galaxy Nexus is just around the corner :) No word on when Sprint will get it, but hopefully it is soon.
45. _SavioR_ posted on 30 Oct 2011, 14:28 0 0
As for web use. I'd be getting the same... Instead of the 6hrs Apple states. I may have to sell this and just buy a Nokia N9.
46. readingthissh1t posted on 30 Oct 2011, 15:32 0 0
I SCREAM FOR ICE CREAM! probably irrelevant
52. _SavioR_ posted on 30 Oct 2011, 18:07 0 0
I saw the Nexus S running ICS and I am impressed.