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Sony sells 8.7 million smartphones last quarter, forecasts yearly profit

0. phoneArena 07 Feb 2013, 02:56 posted on

Sony posted a net loss of around $115 million for the previous quarter due to stalling TV demand, but it is still magnitudes less than what was reported for the same period the year before, plus Sony forecasts a decent profit for 2013, so things seem to be on the mend...

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posted on 07 Feb 2013, 03:01 16

1. emadshiny (Posts: 1144; Member since: 05 Dec 2012)


good progress Sony, keep it up.

posted on 07 Feb 2013, 11:51

68. abhishek48 (Posts: 164; Member since: 19 Feb 2012)


A loss over all is good lol

posted on 07 Feb 2013, 18:08 3

73. Dacha (Posts: 12; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)


It is not a loss. Sony made a profit of about $ 550 million.

posted on 07 Feb 2013, 03:03 4

2. _Bone_ (Posts: 2155; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)


I want my short battery life TFT screen Xperia Z already as I can't wait to play with my $800 gadget in the bathtub, which is very cool.

posted on 07 Feb 2013, 03:18 6

9. Mittal (Posts: 493; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)


but the design is good :D

posted on 07 Feb 2013, 03:22 7

12. emadshiny (Posts: 1144; Member since: 05 Dec 2012)


how do you know about the battery life??

posted on 07 Feb 2013, 03:40 3

18. _Bone_ (Posts: 2155; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)


This review claims 4-4,5 hours of intensive usage, based on the release 4.1.2 SW and obviously the release HW. They say both the screen and the HW eats huge amount of juice, and energy saving mode only usable when it doesn't eat up too much energy anyway.
http://mobilarena.hu/teszt/sony_xperia_z/uzemido_osszegzes.html

The biggest issue this year will be battery life. After the Note II and MAXX HD reached impressive results, we're going back to the daily worry. The S4 Pro @ 5"FHD would require at least 3000mAh for comfortable daily usage where the A15s may need even more, there's so much software tweaks can do.

Rumors say Samsung is struggling even with the energy-friendly SAMOLED & Exynos Octa on board. To be honest, no CPU clock speed should come over 1,2GHz, a little amount of extra performance comes with huge energy sacrifice, and these newer products push toward 2GHz which is serious overkill.

A15 architecture handles absolutely everything lag free even at 1,2GHz. People will be underclocking like crazy this year.

posted on 07 Feb 2013, 03:42 2

20. emadshiny (Posts: 1144; Member since: 05 Dec 2012)


please leave a source in English. i could understand nothing.

posted on 07 Feb 2013, 03:54

23. _Bone_ (Posts: 2155; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)


I'm the source in English. It's a trustworthy site (why they get early review units), just translated their battery impressions.

posted on 07 Feb 2013, 06:04 4

45. wendygarett (unregistered)


Funny the final device has not released... I assume that's a prototype :)

posted on 07 Feb 2013, 06:28

52. _Bone_ (Posts: 2155; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)


It's funny now, but you won't find as much joy in it when you'll go charging it twice a day.

posted on 07 Feb 2013, 06:33 2

53. wendygarett (unregistered)


Then go get your oppo device dude lol

posted on 07 Feb 2013, 07:32

57. _Bone_ (Posts: 2155; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)


I might, better screen, battery life and price point, but better yet is waiting for something like an A15 Nexus 5. Good luck hoping that ignoring issues with a device will magically make them go away lol.

posted on 07 Feb 2013, 10:31

61. gwuhua1984 (Posts: 1237; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)


What does your comment have to do with his prototype assumption...?

posted on 07 Feb 2013, 11:50

67. abhishek48 (Posts: 164; Member since: 19 Feb 2012)


Use google chrome to translate in english

posted on 07 Feb 2013, 06:34

55. jroc74 (Posts: 6015; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


"To be honest, no CPU clock speed should come over 1,2GHz, a little amount of extra performance comes with huge energy sacrifice, and these newer products push toward 2GHz which is serious overkill."

I kinda agree with this. I have a phone running at 1.2....and it was no difference running it at 1. I have yet to have a phone running at 2Ghz. I would want it lower just for better battery life.

I have another phone running at 1.5....and the person using it compains about battery life daily. If I keep it I will finally root it and underclock it to see if it helps.

I said kinda agree because it depends on what ppl use their phones for. If it has a laptop dock like some Moto phones....thats different. Or using a Citrix type software, remote desktop......you might need the extra power. Might...

posted on 07 Feb 2013, 11:19

64. Aaron_R96 (Posts: 198; Member since: 22 Jan 2012)


Chances are your average everyday consumer is not gonna use it for 'intensive usage' and what does your source state that intensive usage is, constant gaming, video? In which case 4.5h intensive usage is impressive, and with non-intensive usage your looking at about 20ish hours of battery life, which, is more than a hell of a lot of phones out there currently.. You're argument is void.

Also on a side note, the 'octa' chip is overhyped, all it is is 2 quad core chips, one A15 and one A7 which can only be exclusively used and clocked the same, 8 cores won't necessarily speed things up i'm afraid, it's just for marketing purposes..

posted on 07 Feb 2013, 03:07 6

3. thelegend6657 (unregistered)


The question is , will Sony overtake Samsung in the mobile space ?
I mean Sony handsets are just as good if not better than sammys

posted on 07 Feb 2013, 03:11 16

5. pankajgupta (Posts: 59; Member since: 09 Aug 2012)


Sony May or may not overtake Samsung in numbers but in Quality and Performance Sony is way ahead of Samsung.
Samsung is no where near Sony Experience in smartphones in build quality as well as looks and feel.

posted on 07 Feb 2013, 03:47 7

21. Mittal (Posts: 493; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)


I generally like SONY designs, and their interface is also quite polished compared to other droids
But software wise Sammy fones r quite well optimised
And starting the Nature UX, even the look and feel on Samsung has become great
So i would not say that Sammy fones are 'nowhere near' the Sony experience

posted on 07 Feb 2013, 16:09 1

71. oister85 (Posts: 499; Member since: 27 Apr 2012)


Tell me pankajgupta what sony device you owned.

posted on 08 Feb 2013, 06:27

76. pankajgupta (Posts: 59; Member since: 09 Aug 2012)


I own Xperia Pro and have extensively used Xperia S, Xperia Miro, Xperia U, Xperia P.

Samsung's i have used lower end Galaxy Y, Galaxy Fit, and also Galaxy S, Galaxy S2, Galaxy Note, Galaxy S3.

posted on 10 Feb 2013, 07:34

78. oister85 (Posts: 499; Member since: 27 Apr 2012)


Yes sony is really good at design, hardware, but thier need to work in the software part. I have the sony tablet s, xperia tablet s walkman z those three products are well built but in the software part are bad. Sony needs to step up if they want to compete with samsung.

posted on 07 Feb 2013, 03:14 10

7. emadshiny (Posts: 1144; Member since: 05 Dec 2012)


its just a year that Sony is independent in mobile production, but i think it is doing a pretty good job. they can make lots of problems for Sammy and IPhone.

posted on 07 Feb 2013, 04:29 1

26. Mittal (Posts: 493; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)


I think the correct objective right now would be to become the default choice after Samsung
There is a section of users who swear by the SONY experience. Sony needs to expand that section and place itself in a position where people think of SONY as the default choice if they are not interested in ..lets say the GS4 or Note 3 (im talking of the larger consumer base here)
Sony first needs to distance itself enough from HTC (I love HTC), Moto and LG

posted on 07 Feb 2013, 03:52 3

22. sats.mine2k4 (banned) (Posts: 208; Member since: 10 Aug 2012)


Just release the Z , ZL like now and sony will win... Samsung GS4 is round the corner...BEWARE

posted on 07 Feb 2013, 04:30 1

27. nikenturd (unregistered)


SONY is soo yesterday....they think they can still sell well by commanding a high price to their products....you had a good run Sony

posted on 07 Feb 2013, 05:02 6

30. wendygarett (unregistered)


Umm the Xperia s still popular and eye catching too you know...

posted on 07 Feb 2013, 06:16

49. Mittal (Posts: 493; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)


i personally hated the NXT designs. Xperia T and Z have been steps in good direction

posted on 07 Feb 2013, 05:15 3

35. n4n0Br4in (Posts: 10; Member since: 06 Feb 2013)


SONY is not yesterday. Their products is quality and can compete with the top. But, I agree with you, the price is sometimes too high...

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