Sony "not worried" about the fact that Samsung's Galaxy S5 is water resistant
0. phoneArena 27 Feb 2014, 18:39 posted on
Sony Mobile USA's president doesn't think that the company has reasons to be threatened by the new capability of the S5. After all, Sony "started the waterproof trend”...
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1. Miracles (Posts: 560; Member since: 31 Aug 2013)
Of course not. Its not WATERPROOF.
Archos guy(a couple articles back) knows it now lol.
3. Tizen007 (Posts: 545; Member since: 07 Jan 2014)
Well they should start worrying cause the s5 will come with a lower price and when the metal premium hits the market they're screwed.
6. fireblade (Posts: 714; Member since: 27 Dec 2013)
well, we will see soon whether the 'waterproof' capability is just a gimmick or real thing
31. Sonny_09 (Posts: 49; Member since: 24 May 2013)
You'll might find Idiot-proof handy too. lol
23. Doakie (Posts: 1379; Member since: 06 May 2009)
Of course they're going to boast that they're not scared about it being water resistant. However Sony is going to sell about 1/10th as many Z2s as the S5... So that's nice that you're not scared, you're still technically losing.
26. Odiin (Posts: 321; Member since: 23 Apr 2013)
Yup S5 sells in millions. That doest mean Z2 is inferior product. Its not loosing anything. Quality n quantity doesn't come together always.
37. Martin_Cooper (Posts: 723; Member since: 30 Jul 2013)
In business world its all it matters. If you sell or not. They aint selling super cars where they sell few exclusive ones and don't care for numbers. In smartphone world its all about how much u sell. And sony obviously cant even sell the 1/10 of Sammy. Which is sad. Really sad. Last night with group of friends who aint into tech started talking what phone a friend should get. EVERY SINGLE one of them mentioned a samsung phone. Sammy is doing wonders in the marketing department.
2. GeekMovement (Posts: 1581; Member since: 09 Sep 2011)
But then does that mean that the Galaxy S5 is more dust proof since the first digit is higher?
8. EgyDroid (Posts: 111; Member since: 10 Oct 2013)
"Samsung said that the Galaxy S5 would be launched globally on April 11 - so it will be in stores about a month earlier than the Xperia Z2."
Isn't the z2 first
March then april, Right?
11. a_merryman (Posts: 737; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)
I'm assuming he meant launch in the US market first, assuming that Sony waits till June like the article suggests.
12. Florin.T (Posts: 138; Member since: 16 Dec 2013)
Corrected. My idea was different that what came out in writing. Thanks for noticing!
7. AfterShock (Posts: 3386; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)
That is a nice safety net feature to have imo.
Wtg SS an Sony.
9. Federated (Posts: 252; Member since: 06 Mar 2010)
I have feeling the T-Mobile USA version of the Sony Xperia Z2 will have a Qualcomm Snapdragon 805 SoC on its launch on June 2014. My guess is Z2s might be its name. I hope I'm right. So it's iPhone 6 versus Sony Xperia Z2s here in the States.
10. dancorcal (Posts: 38; Member since: 23 Jan 2013)
Yes...as someone who ruined a $600 phone in the washing machine I appreciate this feature.
14. HASHTAG (Posts: 192; Member since: 31 Jan 2014)
Not saying it would, but wouldn't a washer machine damage the S5 by taking apart the back of the phone in since the back is removable? So, your $600 phone would still get destroyed.
16. pwnarena (Posts: 1001; Member since: 15 Feb 2013)
even without the back detaching, being in the washing machine alone (immersed in water) will damage it. it's not waterproof, only water resistant.
19. williamdroid (Posts: 125; Member since: 19 Jan 2014)
It is water proof. IP67 Certified. The Z is IP58. Both are water proof.
21. a_merryman (Posts: 737; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)
To be fair, I don't think either phone would make it through the washing machine....that is brutal on any bit of technology.
And most wash cycles take longer than the 30 minutes that the S5 is rated for, so assuming that both phones could survive the torture the washing machine would throw at them, the S5 would still probably give out first. Though on the beach or in the desert, the S5 would do better than the Z2 since it is more dustproof (having the highest dustproof rating available) So you would not have to worry about it at all in a sandstorm, thats pretty cool.
40. yudi.nemesis (Posts: 1127; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)
IP5X = "Ingress of dust is not entirely prevented, but it must not enter in sufficient quantity to interfere with the satisfactory operation of the equipment; complete protection against contact (dust proof)"
So sand on the beach or in the desert will not damage or interfere with the performance of Z2 and only some "nano" particle can enter the phone.
Even if you're buried S4 in the sand I'm sure S4 will not be damaged.
When it comes to electronic devices water is far mor dangerous than dust.
And Z2 with IPX8 can survive from immersion in water generally up to 3m.
41. a_merryman (Posts: 737; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)
Oh, I know. I'm not sure why you thought I was saying otherwise? I literally said that the S5 would give out in the water first.Trust me, I would also much rather have the better water rating. It will be much more handy for me. I was just commenting that it is cool that the S5 is completely dustproof, never did I say the Z2 wouldn't be able to handle the beach or desert...most phones will unless you decide to rub sand into it forcefully. The only time I could imagine being completely dustproof would make a difference is a sandstorm (which you shouldn't be out in) or in various industrial settings where fine particulate matter is common.
18. elitewolverine (Posts: 2380; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
as well as most wash machines will beat it up, and are usually more than 30mins
47. Dadler22 (Posts: 161; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)
I think shockproof which is another IP Standard would come into play during some of this as well
20. williamdroid (Posts: 125; Member since: 19 Jan 2014)
Honestly i couldnt care less about water proof fones.
I would buy the Z2 in a heartbeat if it had better bezels like the ZL even if that meant losing waterproof. The S5 is pretty dam ugly
22. AfterShock (Posts: 3386; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)
I still think ultimate test is a pillow case filled with all the top phones tossed into a dryer with heat off for say, twenty minutes.
It'd be interesting to see what phone came out alive besides maybe Nokia.
That's a rating.
24. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 3043; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)
Sony really needs to get their crap together. The Z2 is an outstanding device, but unless they put it out on all the major carriers....it's going to need to be dust proof, because that's where it's going to be left behind.
25. bugsbunny00 (Posts: 1313; Member since: 07 Jun 2013)
7-Immersion To 1 Meter
Galaxy wins....for dust protected
8-immersion beyond 1 meter
Xperia wins,....for waterproofness beyond 1 meter
virdict-XPERIA is clearly a winner,water is more danger to the device than dust.
as if you like the to play in dirt.
27. ChocolatePants (Posts: 4; Member since: 27 Feb 2014)
Not necessarily. Your phone's exposed to dirt 99.99% of the time. And really, 1 meter isn't deep, so your instincts will tell you "Oh no! Don't make it go down that far!" While the s5 will die out below 1 meter, the Xperia would die out below 1.2 meters, which isn't much of a difference.
35. bugsbunny00 (Posts: 1313; Member since: 07 Jun 2013)
what are you trying to say here? is it exposed to 99.99% water?no,have you tested the xperia down to 2 meters? i have tested to 7 ft which is 2.20 meters and still works. maybe you work in a garden thats why your phone is so dirty.
48. Dadler22 (Posts: 161; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)
i've never submerged my Galaxy Note II in a pile of dust so I couldn't tell you what that would do, but water did mess it up pretty good.
52. FredoGavera (Posts: 7; Member since: 09 Jan 2013)
you clearly have no clue. if you actually took the time to read the IP cert chart you'd see that 8 means that it could be far beyond 1m, it could realistically be 10m but according to the chart manufacturers generally say 3m which is actually quite a lot.
Also, dust may enter the Z2 but it will not break the phone by any means:
IP5X 'Ingress of dust is not entirely prevented, but it must not enter in sufficient quantity to interfere with the satisfactory operation of the equipment; complete protection against contact (dust proof)'
28. Liveitup (Posts: 1687; Member since: 07 Jan 2014)
I really don't get why waterproof phones are being called a trend, flat UI is a trend , water proof feature not so much, its cool but phones being destroyed by water is not something that happens a lot also I recall a Fitjustu water proof Windows Phone having this feature in 2011. Its cool to have that feature if you ever happen to get your phone wet, otherwise using your phone in water deliberately is never smart, however I think things like working on new innovations for things like longer lasting battery life etc is more important than features such as this.
29. Jason2k13 (Posts: 673; Member since: 28 Mar 2013)
sony still loses, S5 is dust proof, and whos gonna accidentally leave there phone in 1 meter water for 30 minutes?
42. yudi.nemesis (Posts: 1127; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)
Lol... even only with IP5X dust will never damage or interfere with the performance of Z2.
Most people like to takes picture and video when they having fun on the beach, swimming pool and water park.
And Z2 will survive from immersion in water up to 3m thanks to IPX8.
When it comes to electronic devices water is far more dangerous than dust.
30. sniperdroid (Posts: 130; Member since: 23 May 2013)
If asked the same question who would say yes?
32. StraightEdgeNexus (Posts: 3640; Member since: 14 Feb 2014)
You all are crying like baby fanboys. One thing is clear GS5 is ugly.
33. StraightEdgeNexus (Posts: 3640; Member since: 14 Feb 2014)
You all are crying like baby fanboys. One thing is clear GS5 is ugly.
49. Dadler22 (Posts: 161; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)
save your reservations for face-to-face. no one has really seen this thing outside of a computer monitor
34. skyline88 (Posts: 360; Member since: 15 Jul 2013)
they're much more worried about their poor sales
36. victory_zhou (Posts: 38; Member since: 03 Oct 2013)
Depend on the users, which UI they like, touchwiz or sony
38. Amir1 (Posts: 277; Member since: 20 Aug 2013)
Thumbs up if you want undieng battery proof.
43. jrod78414 (Posts: 102; Member since: 18 Dec 2013)
I dont think he knows motorola has been doing that on there DROID series before sony. UMmm.
45. NE_BE (Posts: 19; Member since: 21 Mar 2013)
to bad people don't really look, they just come in and want "a samsung" because the family nerd told them it's good >.>
Sony's line up for this year is really amazing; so was last year, but the screen... meh.
46. yudi.nemesis (Posts: 1127; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)
50. vikingsfootball09 (Posts: 69; Member since: 02 Oct 2013)
alot of media devices in the past have been made water resistant/waterproof...but then again, i do believe sony made the first waterproof walkman in the 80's that was yellow in color, hehe
51. FredoGavera (Posts: 7; Member since: 09 Jan 2013)
Both these phones have what I like, SD card support and decent water resistance. I do hope however that Sony releases another high end compact version just like the Z1 compact. I think I'm one of the only people left in the west that still finds phones over 5 inches in length oversized...