Sony announces new flagship model with a dual-core CPU: Is it a mistake?
0. phoneArena 29 Aug 2012, 12:02 posted on
Today was Sony's pre-IFA 2012 press-conference, and as expected, the company announced three new smartphones, the Xperia T, Xperia V and Xperia J, as well as a new tablet, the Xperia Tablet S...
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1. redmd (Posts: 1004; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)
late to party as always. Sony is alright. it has a huge fan base after all.
7. aaronkatrini (Posts: 240; Member since: 06 Jun 2012)
Hey One S krait beats on every benchmark the One X, Dual-core on good architecture can be as good quad-cores.
22. Mittal (Posts: 490; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)
Go explain that to laymen who will just go with the specs..
These companies dont run on geeks' money alone y' know
23. Mittal (Posts: 490; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)
Not to forget that Sony keeps its prices a bit on the upper side..
35. Mittal (Posts: 490; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)
At least in India, Sony keeps itself expensive.
One crazy thing they have recently done is put a Rs. 35000/-( ~ 630 USD) price tag on the scorpion powered Sony Ion.
Lolz its in the same league as S3 and One X
33. mrbtree (Posts: 59; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
one s has a qhd display, one x has a hd display, more pixels = more processing power = lower score
37. aaronkatrini (Posts: 240; Member since: 06 Jun 2012)
keep your oppinions in one single F*cking comment.. nobody wants to see all your comments . thank you
31. MeoCao (unregistered)
The key feature of this phone is the camera, and 2 cores are enough especially with JB coming soon.
2. Nikolas.Oliver (banned) (Posts: 1574; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)
yeah i think it's a mistake because the majority of smartphone users are not a smartphones geek like us, they didn't know or didn't care that the s4 krait is equal to tegra 3 or exynos 4412...
3. Deerajrp (Posts: 15; Member since: 15 Aug 2010)
even though dual cores are quite capable of handling the present games and apps as of now, in a matter of few months there will be a pleathora of games which will be optimised only for the quads. no body wants to miss out on that!! so yeah sony should have gone with the quad. period! snapdragon s4 pro would have been really awesome if it was coupled with that beautiful screen of the sony.
4. FranksGT (Posts: 167; Member since: 29 Aug 2012)
Not as such as a mistake, but it would of helped sales.
5. Commentator (Posts: 2725; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
It shouldn't matter, especially if the new iPhone will be launching with a dual-core processor (it will be). Optimized performance and unique features are better than raw power, if they're done right, and hopefully Sony can pull it off.
6. XperiaUser (unregistered)
i m with Sony. and i also want to buy this instead of s3 n any quad core but in case of market >>>>>> Definitely. Specs sell in the wireless industry.
8. mafiaprinc3 (Posts: 395; Member since: 07 May 2012)
i think dual cores are more than capable to handle graphical intensive programs on android.the problem is optimising android os so user can get that buttery smooth interface like waht windows phone offers.
Yes there is ice cream sandwich & jelly bean but i still think there is alot of work left to do eg. Linux gurus who optimised android
I Love android but they need to spend more time to optimise their devices and manufacturers need to spend time to toy with android and update their phone. i know its money making thing but eventually manufacturers will losse customers. htc sucks when it comes to updating previous phones to ics, look at the htc desire specs and they are outing ic for lower spec'd phones like htc desire c
9. Synack (Posts: 670; Member since: 05 Jul 2011)
I love how America assumes "Moar cores = moar powahh!!!!"
We obviously see that specs don't always sell with the iPhone.
10. Commentator (Posts: 2725; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
Like how no American carriers sell a quad-core phone?
12. mafiaprinc3 (Posts: 395; Member since: 07 May 2012)
i love android but google is just lazy to optimise the os even for ics and jellybean as they should forcing manufactuers to make quard cores to get the best performance from their devices. mid 2013 we'll start seeing hexa cores. even graphically intesive games can be optimised.
google is getting lazy !!! lazy !!! lazy !!! lazy !!! lazy !!! lazy !!! lazy !!! lazy !!! lazy !!! lazy !!! lazy !!! lazy !!!
21. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4166; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
You realize Google has absolutely no say in software on phones, except for the Nexus, right? They just give it out to manufacturers like Samsung, HTC, Motorola, Sony, etc. and let them do what they will with it.
32. Paradox (Posts: 123; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)
I don't think google force any manufacturers to do anything...
11. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
Actually I'm bored to hear Sony and Dual-Core in one sentence...
13. mafiaprinc3 (Posts: 395; Member since: 07 May 2012)
i guess you'll be one of the 1st to buy the hexa core that comes out next year.you wont even find use for all those cores.they just need to optimise cpu and graphical intensive apps
14. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
"...hexa core that comes out next year."
Are you sure?
16. mafiaprinc3 (Posts: 395; Member since: 07 May 2012)
am not sure just saying thats the next step,based on how technology & android is evolving
18. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
hexa cores have been out. Technically the Tegra3 is a hexacore. 4+1 design.
However, no hexacore other than that is even on the horizon. The CPU development is gonna slow down a bit, they are ramping up GPU power like a madman though. The Exynos5 dual uses a quadcore GPU and the exynos5 quad is supposed to use an Octocore GPU.
The end of this year is going to be interesting.. next year is going to be .. veeeery interesting.
20. mafiaprinc3 (Posts: 395; Member since: 07 May 2012)
well they should focus on gpu's mostly since thats what handles most of the graphics intesive programs and games.
but still optimization is the key.
ever use a wp7 device to play hd/ racing games it's silky smooth yet they have outdated gpu's
google should focus on optimization as much as they focus on innovation and feautures
15. eman99 (Posts: 263; Member since: 03 Aug 2010)
what is up with sony and naming these devices after letters are they going through the whole alphabet????
17. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
if it was the dual core pro, there wouldnt be an issue since it has a much much stronger GPU. the dual core krait is still a crap chip+GPU combo. main reason I never picked up a US SGS3. No thanks.
But, like always, the sony fans will proclaim this the best phone ever, just like they did with last year's underpowered models.
19. sadaivadai (Posts: 156; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)
Sony fans are lot different from Samsung fans . They don't rely on POWER alone . They like Sony's design , timescape UI , camera , screen(they prefer lcd with bravia engine to amoled) . So for them their phone is the best . every phone has their advantages .
24. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4166; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Remix, enough with the "crapdragon" stuff... Really. There are comparisons between the international GS3 and the US GS3, and there is basically no difference in overall speed. The S4 is fine. It's more powerful than the Tegra 3, which is enough to run Android with no lag, so that's well enough to make sure there is no difference in everyday performance between the Tegra 3, S4, or Exynos 4412.
Now, with custom UIs it's different, because obviously the GS3 with Touchwiz UX and the S4 will be faster than a One X with an S4 and Sense 4 (not including the Sense 4.1 update) because Touchwiz is lighter than Sense 4.
Yes, the S4 is a lesser chip to the Exynos 4412. But if that doesn't reflect in everyday performance, does it really matter?
25. joaolx (Posts: 364; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
I think a quad-core is cool but for now is just to show off and some dual-core phones are as good as quad-core. I'm with sony.
26. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6977; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
SONY says themselves they DON'T NEED A QUAD core in their phones. and believe me SONY knows their processors and hardware. XPERIA T will be my next phone just glad I stayed away from the iON
27. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)
T and V for the win!.... :)
28. kurejikame (Posts: 12; Member since: 27 Jun 2012)
Here's the thing. I know that for right now the dual core s4 can basically handle anything that is going to be thrown at.
At the same time, what does the future hold for Android? It may seem like overkill now, but say Android 5.0 brings a whole experience that requires more that just a dual core.
It may or may not, but I'd want my device to last me at least a year without feeling that it can't handle whatever new software or apps are being developed. With the s4 pro and the A15 within the near future, I feel like it's worth it to wait a few months as it will be at least a year before anything substantially more powerful comes out.
I'm still rocking a Droid Incredible. I have Jellybean on it, and it runs decently smooth. To be honest, I don't have a problem waiting for a device that is close to exactly what I want, even if it takes a while.
My "ideal" phone would be have a 4.3-4.6 Super AMOLED Plus screen, 2 gigs of ram, as of right now either the quad s4 pro or the dual Exynos with Cortex-A15, the new stacked sensor from Sony(I'm trying to be realistic. Pureview probably won't being coming to any other than Nokia), at least a 3000 mAh battery, the latest verison of Android, and a decent build quality and feel.
I have dropped my DInc so many times, and the only thing damaged is the front housing which has a few barely noticeable dings. Maybe I shouldn't be dropping my phone, but I think it should be able to handle some abuse. Anyway just my two cents :)
29. KaloqnYo (Posts: 22; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)
The S4 chip and Adreno 225 are equal to the Tegra 3 chip and it's gpu ! You can see the HTC One S vs One X performance comparison !
30. soshi (Posts: 154; Member since: 08 Mar 2012)
In the term of function they not wrong, but for get the attention yes. Sony can steal attention easily because they have brand and design, giving spec will be much better. I hope they make quad core not because I want it but to make their dual core phone cheaper in price
36. whysoserious (Posts: 317; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)
Definitely. The difference between the number of GS3 or HOX sales compared to Xperia S sales are enough evidence to prove so. Given the fact that the Xperia S was released way ahead of S3 and HOX.