Sony Z1 Honami tester comments on a prototype's G Lens camera, chassis and display
0. phoneArena 21 Aug 2013, 09:29 posted on
The tester says camera is indeed branded G Lens, but he doesn't see a "wow factor" in it, and if the leaked samples are any indication that might hold true, but we'll have to get the retail unit before passing any judgment. It's not clear whether the Honami he got was wrapped up as a "mule" of sorts, or is it the final design, as his measurements showed a suspiciously heavily, 190 grams device...
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7. LetsBeHonest (Posts: 809; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)
I hope so....
i have high hope for this beast phone
so this article kinda disappointing. Hope its just an early prototype and final version will smoke the s**t out of every one.....
14. Commentator (Posts: 2424; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
Remember, this is why this guy's a tester. No phone is ever perfect in the testing phase.
38. james004 (Posts: 471; Member since: 15 May 2013)
true, he has to be critical of every single thing. he probably gets his hands on all different kind of device so he wouldnt be impressed that easily.
and if phone is actually not great as we expect then..... well atleast its a future-proof phone.
32. PunyPoop (Posts: 718; Member since: 18 Jan 2013)
Okay first of all, this is about SONY again, and why PA? Why are you posting things like this? Is there something like this that Samsung, Apple, HTC etc.. that is involved? I think none! When it comes to SONY when you saw negatives or some letdowns you're posting it.. Why?? Just asking, and please don't remove my comment again!
58. Airforce (Posts: 62; Member since: 24 Jul 2012)
u have forgotten PA is also known as iPhonearena..they support anything apple does..so dont be suprised when no SONY DEVICE has actually gotten a 9 rating..but the iphone 5...is getting a high rating for reasons i dnt know
29. Cod3rror (Posts: 60; Member since: 06 Apr 2013)
I don't buy that excuse anymore. It's always "prototype, wait for the final release" well look at Nokia 1020. The final product is a disappointment.
35. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5800; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
But there is a follow-on version of the L1020.... Just wait for it to drop! Remember how the L920 wasn't exactly wow? And then the L925 & L928 were released. Just have to wait for another 6+ months (or so).
There is always a better phone waiting in the wings.
End of sarcasm.
2. Pancoon (Posts: 42; Member since: 05 Jul 2013)
:( doesn't sound promising. Please let the retail Honami be better!
20. buccob (Posts: 1429; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)
Dont get your hopes so high...
Though Im sure the camera will be better than the leaked pictures...
I am still going to get the Honami Mini either way... Perfect size and flagship specs... hope is true and hope is soon after 9/4
I only wish it had a 4.5-4.6 screen cause it will most likely have screen buttons... and 4.3" with screen buttons makes it a bit small
3. xperiaDROID (limited) (Posts: 5494; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
"There's this bo liao app where you can take AR effect like a 3D dinosaur/fairies in the backdrop lol"
Bo liao? That tester must be a chinese, Y U NO SPEAK ENGLISH?
By the way, I hope that those leak photos of the Honami aren't real, because it didn't have the wow factor. And that tester is complaining non-stop, I really hope that this is the best of Sony.
46. MistB (Posts: 571; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)
As am I :D
I can't remember the last time i saw one of our own holding a nokia lumia 920 or a nokia for that matter, must be an outlaw then!
68. 86123maxxi (Posts: 1; Member since: 25 Aug 2013)
The tester is Singaporean. HWZ is a singaporean based forum site. Anyway, Bo Liao is a Chinese dialect for nothing better to do or useless. Translated into proper English, what the tester means is "there is also a gimmicky feature in the camera app where you can super impose dinosaurs etc in the background". Well, it's normal for us Singaporeans to utilise a wee bit of colloquialism. Limpeh correct right brudder?
4. chunk1x (Posts: 248; Member since: 25 Jun 2011)
Seriously, the main reason you are reading this article because you can't wait for a Honami vs 1020 showdown. Epic this fight will be.
8. LetsBeHonest (Posts: 809; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)
May be Lumia 1020 win on camera department because its spot much bigger sensor than honami. And Lumia may win on all other departments. Because, first it run on WP gdr2 update and all hardware boost come only on gdr3 update. Second android have wide ecosystem and apps but its just personal preference though.
10. chunk1x (Posts: 248; Member since: 25 Jun 2011)
Don't care at who wins. There hasn't been a camera phone titan battle since Pixon and Cybershot series disappeared. Sony is Nokia's biggest camera phone rival ever. Godzilla vs King Kong Motherf@kers.
18. dexter_jdr (Posts: 1144; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)
nonono. fan boys say this honami will pack same sensor as rx100 cam. im waiting for their boast. /s
55. Edmund (Posts: 656; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)
fanboys are full of crap, because you can't put a sensor of that size (1 inch) into a chasis that is only 9mm thick.
5. istitch (Posts: 164; Member since: 19 Mar 2013)
the tester seems like either a singaporean or taiwanese
bo liao app LOL
15. Commentator (Posts: 2424; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
If by "ridiculous" you mean "honest and helpful to Sony," and "someone who is doing his job correctly because if he doesn't the Honami won't be as good as it can be," then yes, this guy is... "ridiculous."
40. emadshiny (Posts: 1131; Member since: 05 Dec 2012)
By ridiculous test and tester i mean useless and incomplete.
Whats the use of such a test when the tester himself confesses that he is not sure of anything and his review is kind of incomplete and vague?
i think he was only trying to pass his time!
and then PA finds a great opportunity to bash Sony and haters like you start their trolling process!
this is exactly what i mean.
42. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8300; Member since: 14 May 2012)
You seem a little mad about what the reviewer said. Just take a deep breath, and just hope the finalized product is better than the prototype.
44. Commentator (Posts: 2424; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
Where does he confess that he is "not sure of anything"?
Also, I'm not a hater, I really want my next phone to be a Honami, to complete the trifecta I'll have going (Vaio + PS4). I'm just not a blind trollish fanboy like yourself who can't admit that there can be anything wrong with his precious Sony.
I dare you to admit that the Honami could have something wrong with it, that it could have some inferior qualities compared to other phones. I dare you.
47. emadshiny (Posts: 1131; Member since: 05 Dec 2012)
I agree that there is no flawless product available but i bet if there was such a review about apple, PA would easily ignore it. but now that it is a Sony ....
Dont you agree?
48. Commentator (Posts: 2424; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
Yeah, PA's treatment of Sony devices has been unfair, their Xperia ZR review is probably the biggest travesty I've seen here (that and the 9.9 they gave the Palm Pre). I don't think this article is all that bad though, as it actually describes some (current, hopefully prototypical) features of the phone. I do with they would post more articles like this for other smartphones.
9. ngyixian96 (Posts: 85; Member since: 05 Feb 2012)
fail product ??
I think Z will better than it
11. Tsepz_GP (Posts: 819; Member since: 12 Apr 2012)
Good grief, 190g :o if that is true then Sony really aren't serious especially if the camera also turns out to be average then it's a whole lot of weight for nothing, bad enough that it doesn't have a Xenon flash.
45. Feanor (Posts: 304; Member since: 20 Jun 2012)
Guys, get finally serious with this xenon business. No other serious competitor of this phone has yet xenon flash, so why should Sony do it? If the Honami doesn't come with xenon flash, will you have to buy a GS4 or a LG G2? None of them has xenon flash either. The Lumia 1020 is a niche lacking many other common flagship characteristics, so...? And anyway, why on earth would Sony want to destroy any incentive to buy their compact cameras or the new magnetic smartphone lenses? They may have to face this challenge in the future but for the moment strategically the Honami should not have a fantastic camera. Rather a decent one to challenge the GS4, the iPhone and the G2.
66. Amir1 (Posts: 266; Member since: 20 Aug 2013)
well, it depends, i thought honami is a camera centric phone, if so then xenon flash is needed, if not then i agree with you - for all around flagship it can be left out for slimness, etc.
12. amats69 (Posts: 1051; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)
Oh cmon sony! Please make it right by this time....
13. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6500; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
Y PA always talked bad bout Sony phones. Plus this is just a prototype.
17. Tsepz_GP (Posts: 819; Member since: 12 Apr 2012)
Lol, why do people always say this??? PA has quite literally posted what the tester said and yet you say PA are the ones talking bad about Sony? Lol.
19. xperiaDROID (limited) (Posts: 5494; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
You really can't blame them for saying that, PA really hate Sony. They always give lower rating to Sony phones. For instance, the Xperia ZR (6.5) and the Xperia L (6.5). While the Samsung Galaxy Core got a perfect 8. Have you seen a Sony phone get 9 or above in PA? No.
49. Tsepz_GP (Posts: 819; Member since: 12 Apr 2012)
So the Sony's have not impressed PA, well the market is pretty much the same, it means Sony better shape up and start putting out better products and THEN you'll probably see a good rating for them here.
23. GTR722 (Posts: 236; Member since: 20 Oct 2012)
Lol it seems that you dont know how bias work works.
28. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8300; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Welcome to PA, where the Sony fan base gets mad when anything negative about Sony is said.
50. Tsepz_GP (Posts: 819; Member since: 12 Apr 2012)
Indeed, they can't take even a tiny bit of criticism, it's so sad.
61. GTR722 (Posts: 236; Member since: 20 Oct 2012)
You mean like the crying of the Samsung fanboys in threads like the fake benchmarks??
64. pyradark (Posts: 772; Member since: 10 Jun 2012)
Welcome to iphone and sammy arena, where all customer get electricuted and explode!!! Hahaha
We take criticism, but not on a prototype!!!
21. YodhaMali (Posts: 41; Member since: 05 Jan 2013)
Looks like Honami is going to be a disappointment then if those words are to be believed. If only it had Xenon flash!
24. wicpromd (Posts: 266; Member since: 20 Aug 2013)
PA today you proved u r biased and u hate Sony
you are posting this negative article ok WHICH is about prototype
but what about that article??
in which a guy from sony beijing gave confirmation on ESATO that he has used Honami with latest software that was posted on PTCRB snd he claimed that HONAMI camera us better than LUMIA 1020
26. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8300; Member since: 14 May 2012)
They're biased because they published an article on a tester's review of a prototype device?
37. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5800; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Well, PA seems to be an equal-opportunity biased publisher. Remember when the Apple fanbois (and gurlz) were howling about PA's bias for publishing articles that shined light on weaknesses of iOS and the iP5?
27. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8300; Member since: 14 May 2012)
The second PA publishes an article about Sony is when the bandwagoners call PA biased lol. So far, the Z1 is becoming a flop of a device as the Z was. Given it's still a prototype, but launch is near and many things won't change. Expect software updates being pushed to it in the next few months.
36. PunyPoop (Posts: 718; Member since: 18 Jan 2013)
Z is a Flop? How the hell they sell millions of units? I don't get it :|
39. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8300; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Terrible camera + worst 1080p screen = flop. Of all 1080p phones so far, the Z is the worst.
60. GTR722 (Posts: 236; Member since: 20 Oct 2012)
Poor samsung fanboy, feeling the heat right??
30. DontHateOnS60 (Posts: 853; Member since: 20 Apr 2009)
I think when it finally shows it face officially, the camera results will turn out to be nothing spectacular. You can't go talking all big about making a "serious" cameraphone and not even include a xenon flash on it. Secondly, I don't care if those leaked sample photos are from a proto or not, they're awful. The leaked 1020 photos were damn good. My suspicion is that the phone itself will be pretty cool, but regarding the camera, the focus will be on the software side of things mostly, with something to brag about on the video front, but definitely nothing to hang their hat on photo results wise.
51. Tsepz_GP (Posts: 819; Member since: 12 Apr 2012)
You know what the funny thing is? This happens with EVERY new major Sony phone, prototype photos are leaked, they look average at best, the Sony fans then say "oh it's a prototype, the final unit will be better", the final unit arrives and it's no better, they then say "oh, after some FW updates it will be much better".....it doesn't get better, by then a new flagship is on its way and so the cycle goes on. Oh dear.
67. anleoflippy (Posts: 281; Member since: 03 Jan 2013)
Your statement also applies to other major Brand phone and other Brand fans.
"it doesn't get better"
I can't disagree with you more.
34. gazmatic (Posts: 625; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)
i never expected it to be spectacular....
i mean... their whole marketing strategy was for end users to buy an extra lens
that in itself gave me pause
we all know that sony products aren't cheap
the honami will cost 700 and the lens no less than 300
with that you might as well buy a real dslr
or a 1020
i mean... look at what the samsung nx cost
nokia is still light-years ahead in terms of camera phones...
the n8 still beats plenty of phones today
this is why I buy nokia almost exclusively....
32gb internal and awesome camera
all wp needs is vlc and usb on the go and I will probably never buy another non lumia device
41. Amir1 (Posts: 266; Member since: 20 Aug 2013)
me wait for xperia 2014 q1 high end flagship release - maybe my next phone... and i do want 5.5-6 inch screen... AND my iphone 3gs is still alive. you don't throw away what is still working. i think the honami camera is going to be "ok", not more then that and i predict it won't have xenon. just my 2 cents. i don't think sony is going "all the way" with the camera like nokia did with 1020.