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Sony Honami and its 20-megapixel camera detailed: smaller sensor than originally thought

0. phoneArena 15 Jul 2013, 04:10 posted on

The Sony i1 Honami, the expected flagship successor to the Xperia Z, is likely not to have a sensor as large as the one on the Nokia Lumia 1020…

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posted on 15 Jul 2013, 04:14 35

1. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 4180; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)


Oops, those expecting the Honami to be a Lumia 1020 killer is going to be disappointed!!

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 04:17 17

3. ihatesmartphone (unregistered)


Nope
They are not :)

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 04:32 10

8. EXkurogane (Posts: 863; Member since: 07 Mar 2013)


Okay, Lumia 1020 wins.
Putting sensor size aside, no Xenon flash as well. If i want to add in more, ISO up to 1600? Lumia 92X (with Amber update) and 1020 go up to 3200, although i never use more than ISO600 on a phone or photos get too noisy.

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 04:47 17

15. cam-whore (Posts: 164; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)


they already are...

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 05:23 7

29. Kurai (unregistered)


The honami will be par with nokia 1020 but i doubt honami will kill 1020 in terms of camera . . . but 1020 against honami overall? LOL . . . talk about dual core and one of the worst battery life. nokia L920's battery is more worse than the Z

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 05:25 1

30. vandroid (Posts: 342; Member since: 04 Sep 2012)


There's no garuntee yet but its very likely Sony could have a trick up their sleeve, we'll have to wait and see but until then the lumia 1020 is the smartphone camera king

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 05:33 3

33. SakuroAkino (banned) (Posts: 141; Member since: 12 Jul 2013)


These are all just rumours
honami will pack 1/1.6 sensor as illustrated before by vr zone
And i dont think , sony will ruin or let down its cybershot name if its a cybershot branded phone as k800i and others in past

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 05:34 6

34. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 4180; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)


Until the official launch and review of the phone, i'll remain skeptical. But that doesn't mean Sony cannot bring something new and awe inspiring to it's camera. They have that capacity...everyone knows it. They just have to put more effort into it.

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 05:35 4

35. EXkurogane (Posts: 863; Member since: 07 Mar 2013)


Windows phone in general, if battery life is bad it's the apps at fault, those poorly written and optimized apps. Whatsapp on windows phone is utter garbage (i dont use it anyway, regardless of what OS im using for a phone), and some other causes battery drain just by having its specific live tile active on the homepage.

My Lumia 920 i can get 1-2days of usage easily, 1 whole day with data on is no problem. Battery drain did happen but improved after a couple of updates, and i got rid of offending apps. Even some 3rd party battery level-monitoring and charting apps causes drain.

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 05:37

36. SakuroAkino (banned) (Posts: 141; Member since: 12 Jul 2013)


Right
Everything is just a rumour
Let us wait for an official announcement

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 05:38

38. vandroid (Posts: 342; Member since: 04 Sep 2012)


I'm taking this all with a grain of salt and waiting impatiently for the unveiling

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 05:38 1

39. EXkurogane (Posts: 863; Member since: 07 Mar 2013)


In my opinion it is impossible to pack in 1/1.6 if the camera is at the top corner and yet maintain a Xperia Z-like thickness, instead of somewhere in the middle. There simply isnt enough space for it. 1/2.3 is more of the size found in lower end point and shoots. Still bigger than those in smartphones though (1/3 to 1/3,2).

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 05:39 8

41. dan86 (Posts: 298; Member since: 17 Mar 2012)


Nokia Lumia 1020 is pure evil, which can tame the baddest of all. SONY i1 alias Honami barely would survive its blow smacked straight on face.

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 05:41

42. SakuroAkino (banned) (Posts: 141; Member since: 12 Jul 2013)


The leak image can also be xperia z running sd800 processor
so all we can do is just wait for it

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 05:43

43. SakuroAkino (banned) (Posts: 141; Member since: 12 Jul 2013)


The more excitement grows
The more famous this honami gets

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 06:13

53. dexter_jdr (Posts: 1163; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)


iso 3200 wont get noisy on lumia 1020. :P

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 06:17 1

54. muhsen (Posts: 281; Member since: 07 Jun 2012)


worst battery life? ...I have a 920 and my father has an xperia z ....my 920 wins in battery life with a respectable margin
not to mention crappy screen (its horrible , just a slight tilt will not make u see what's in the xperia z's screen) compared to the 920's awesome clearblack display (this beats any phone screen) I have ever seen in the sun light )and its awesome viewing angles.
besides what's point of more than duel core when every heavy game on wp store runs better on the high end wp dvices than many quadcore android phones.
I played N.O.V.A.3 on the both the 920 and the xperia z and there's very very slight stutter from time to time(like once per day and just for sec or sth and its hardly noticeable ) on the xperia z while there wasn't any on the 920( the difference in performance between the two phones is barely noticeable) but still that means that it runs smoother (even if very marginally) on the 920...so again what's the point of bragging about very powerful hardware if everything runs just as smooth (if not better) on duelcore wp's ? actually that puts points on wp's side on against it

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 06:19

55. dexter_jdr (Posts: 1163; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)


and then they say "this xperia honami will put sony's RX1 sensor in it!!!"

haha

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 06:19 3

56. james004 (Posts: 486; Member since: 15 May 2013)


this guy didnt even read the article, and he says honami will be disappointment.
a person who had hands on experience is clearly stating that image processor puts honami on par with lumia 1020.
sure lumia is ahead with over sampling pictures at 38mp but i have never printed a poster from any picture i took from my phone nor i plan to do that in future.
at most i upload at google plus which only accepts 8mp.
dont use facebook/twitter but for people that do, it only has 5mp capability so keep that in mind when thinking of all these high specs camera.

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 06:21 1

57. james004 (Posts: 486; Member since: 15 May 2013)


da fak is wrong with your people. iso 3200? :/ have you even taken picture with that rate? lumia already has slow shutter rate add this iso. forget using your phone for next 20 seconds.

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 06:24 1

58. Feanor (Posts: 827; Member since: 20 Jun 2012)


I don't understand why people are so intend in comparing this forthcoming Sony with the Lumia 1020. The 1020 is quite a dedicated cameraphone with no-compromises camera tech and a considerable hump. I think the Honami is supposed to be a general flagship intend on taking on the Galaxy S4 and the iPhone and quite abit thinner. I think Sony want to improve on the camera department enough to make it a very capable shooter but no 1020 competitor.

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 06:28

60. dexter_jdr (Posts: 1163; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)


then why do cameras have option for 3200? they have the xenon flash, lens optics and mechanical shutter.

1020 got them too.

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 06:29 3

61. SakuroAkino (banned) (Posts: 141; Member since: 12 Jul 2013)


Honami will have awesome camera for sure
no doubt in that
Those u r babbling about nokia nokia and coming here in sony's article are sure haters and dont want sony to revive cybershot era

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 06:31

63. belovedson (Posts: 1045; Member since: 30 Nov 2010)


so comparing a shot from a dslr against a phone camera is a fair comparison?

camera phone serves really two functions: to work as a phone and two to replace a point and click and now it appears may start fizzling out zoom out cameras

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 06:39

65. amiroo (Posts: 269; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)


sony 20 megapixel = 12 megapixel
nokia 8 megapixel = 12 megapixel

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 06:44

67. x_maly_x (Posts: 72; Member since: 01 Jun 2013)


My Lumia 920 i can get 2-5days of usage (5 if I only call or text)

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 06:46

69. tashreef (Posts: 476; Member since: 24 Nov 2012)


they need some exceptionaly good engineers, like Nokia..... sony camera division can only make good sensors... how to make them perfect on a smartphone is up to sony mobile

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 06:58 1

73. pyradark (Posts: 878; Member since: 10 Jun 2012)


yup 1020 wins in camera, but on overall phone
Sony honami wins, even 1020 cant survive underwater

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 07:09

74. EXkurogane (Posts: 863; Member since: 07 Mar 2013)


i just mentioned i use only up to 600 on a phone, as for ISO3200, yes, you do need that much especially in DSLRs. Ever wondered why DSLRs have ISO up to 12800, and expandable up to an ISO of 25600? I personally dont go that high (pumping up ISO blindly is something that amateurs do), but some people do use that high.

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 07:26

75. oister85 (Posts: 501; Member since: 27 Apr 2012)


So this phone is supposed to be a camera phone but I don't see the phone to be bulky.if Sony manage to deliver a good picture quality.the next big thing is here.

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