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Some iPhone 4S owners reporting "No SIM card installed" error messages

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Back in mid-October an iPhone 4S owner posted a thread stating they were using their phone when it start producing SIM error messages, finally ending with a “No SIM card installed” message. Seventeen pages of responses later, this seems to be a reoccurring issue with no direct tie to any particular carrier or geographic location.

One site, Woo Servers, points out the iPhone 4 use micro-SIM rather than the mini-SIM form factor that was used in previous models. Woo Servers believes that the issue is directly related to a design flaw of the eject mechanism on the new SIM card tray. The blog post states that sometimes the eject mechanism touches the metal contacts on the SIM, creating a short circuit. It goes on to detailing ways to create a barrier with a non-conductive material, such as tape.

The Woo Servers blog post was originally posted back in July of 2010, obviously in reference to the previous model, the iPhone 4, and there has not been any word from Apple on this issue. Perhaps with the additional onslaught of iPhone 4S users experiencing the error as well, we will eventually hear from the creator itself.

source: Apple Support Communities & Woo Servers via Engadget

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posted on 18 Nov 2011, 09:48 13

1. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)


(Soldier sending a text message)

"Quick! I need an medical airlift at my position ASAP!" *presses send*
Error message: "No SIM card installed."
"f**k WHY COULDN'T THE ARMY GO WITH ANDROID"


I kid, I kid.

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 10:55 8

10. mannyfs (Posts: 63; Member since: 11 Feb 2011)


cuz if they did, by the time the soldier hit send the phone would either CRASH! or DIE, just like android knows how to do very well


lolololo
jk fandroids, please dont kill me

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 11:22 4

17. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)


Lol, nah, it would've forced itself closed or ate the battery before it could do anything.

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 11:41 8

19. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)


You guys are almost as funny as me! I like your jokes!

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 12:16 6

26. Jobes (Posts: 364; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)


Last phone I had that did force closes was my og Droid lol.. Silly iFans. And 30 hrs on a full charge... With 4g.. Omg my battery life is so horrible I should get an iPhone!

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 12:25 5

29. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)


Yeah, but if they didn't have the force close/battery life crap they would have no ammunition against Android.

Let em think they know what they're talking about ;)

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 12:45 2

32. Jobes (Posts: 364; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)


Lol touche

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 11:20 5

15. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)


You're not funny.

P.S.

"Quick, I need to send an emergency text to warn about the severe weather!!!"

*opens Text app* Forced Closes

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 11:58 5

24. ngo2dd (Posts: 793; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)


Too bad you never use android phone at all you we all you lie all the time. Be gone troll

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 14:51 3

45. andro. (Posts: 1971; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)


if he used an android phone he'd ask with the 'any button' is when asked to press one!

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 15:21 3

50. Jobes (Posts: 364; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)


Sad attempt Miz... Sad. I feel bad for you now :(

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 14:49 2

44. andro. (Posts: 1971; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)


Its not just sim card reading errors,in shops we are noticing how iphone 4s are having major trouble keeping caller display on, the switch disappears due to problems with sim reading,multiple attempts at reloading the sims are needed to get the switch for turning on caller id to reapper.

Some iphone 4s take at least 6 or 7 attempts to read contacts from sims to import into the phone.

So now its apparent the iphone 4s,drops calls or greats silent out going calls,poor battery life,echo on speaker,tinted screens and has sim reader problems just to start with. The worst part is when this already faulty product goes past the one year warranty apple just tell people where to go..............straight in and spend all their money again on another faulty iphone

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 15:19 1

49. Jobes (Posts: 364; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)


"working as intended"

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 16:36

57. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Don't you work for sprint? Sprint iPhones don't even use a sim card unless they use them outside the US.

posted on 20 Nov 2011, 16:01

71. audiblenarcotic (Posts: 110; Member since: 16 Nov 2011)


Taco, you are correct. Sprint iPhones do not utilize the SIM card unless you are going overseas. But since its the same exact model device that is sold on all 3 major carriers it still does have the SIM card inside of it. So, regardless of whether you are CDMA, if the SIM card has an error the phone will still have an issue. Seems silly, but thats the reality of it.

posted on 19 Nov 2011, 00:33

64. tuminatr (Posts: 693; Member since: 23 Feb 2009)


I thought they did! hmmm

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 09:54 6

2. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5951; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


LOL. Be prepared for every iTroll to thumbs down your post.

The iPhone 4 had problems with periodically not recognizing its SIM card (a friend got a replacement phone 6 months into their ownership; the Apple store staff said they had replaced a few others for the same reason). Whether this is another antenna-gate, only time will tell.

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 10:00 6

3. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)


It's cool. I'm used to it. In my opinion, the thumbs down button is basically the "I don't have a response to this comment that is worth posting BUT IT MAKES ME MAD" button.

Which is why I never give thumbs down... I always have something to say :)

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 10:02 10

4. networkdood (Posts: 6326; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


Weird...on my ANDROID phone I keep getting an error:
"You do not have an iphone....your phone will work properly now...thank you"

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 10:56 5

11. mannyfs (Posts: 63; Member since: 11 Feb 2011)


"..after it finishes crashing, or after you recharge it for the 7th time of the day"

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 11:42 7

20. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)


You do realize that the whole force close and battery life issues are sort of a thing of the past? While they are still present on some devices, the new phones releasing don't really have that problem.

The iPhone4S on the other hand, well... you know.

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 14:54 1

46. andro. (Posts: 1971; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)


the sheer number of iphone 4 we have gotten back instore which have 'frozen' or stalled during the upgrade to ios 5 process or a short period after is shocking. Fortunately for those us who work in retail most of those phones are over the measly apple one year warranty so we can't help them and let them complain to apple helplines elsewhere

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 16:37

58. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Again if you work for sprint there wouldn't be any phones outside of warranty you're dealing with.

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 10:03 6

5. Sniggly (Posts: 7182; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


What? An issue with iPhones due to a problem with its hardware design? That could NEVER happen!

In all seriousness, if people are having an issue then I hope that Apple fixes it. I also hope that the eject mechanism is redesigned for the next model, if it truly is the source of the issue.

Of course, it could just be those evil Android fairies messing up those poor innocent iPhones in order to piss off their owners.

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 10:33 5

8. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)


Damn those fairies.

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 11:01 1

12. LewsTherin006 (Posts: 140; Member since: 18 Nov 2011)


what i want to know is if this error is coming from the cdma iphone as well or is it just the ones that are using sim cards for service.

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 11:22

16. EclipseGSX (Posts: 1650; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


it is, I have experienced it on the Sprint 4S when I had it

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 11:24

18. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)


I know you seriously aren't trying to attack iPhone issues here. Oh heaven forbid one to mention all the issues a typical Android phone has, like the ones people complain about on your precious Motorola phones.

Apple fixes everything with their phones.

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 11:44 5

21. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)


Attack? So mentioning an iPhone issue is an attack on the iPhone? Yikes.


WAAAAAAIT a second. Apple fixes everything with their phones? You mean like how pretty much EVERY AT&T customer needs to have a case for their iPhone4? Yeah. They sure fixed it.

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 11:46 5

23. EclipseGSX (Posts: 1650; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


his idea of fixing is releasing a new model lol

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 14:02 5

40. remixfa (Posts: 14135; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


so... by fixing you mean telling their customers they are holding it wrong.. and offering a free rubber bumper for all of 3 months or so

and never actually addressing the issue until the next version of the phone comes out?


yup.. they fix everything all right.

posted on 19 Nov 2011, 00:43 3

65. Sniggly (Posts: 7182; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Okay, so there are crappy Android phones. There are crappy Motorola phones. Even the good Motorola phones have had problems.

But okay, I\'ll explain the difference to you, since you\'ve missed every time I\'ve explained it before, apparently.

The difference is that the expectation created by the hype Apple and their minions build around the iPhone (applies to any Apple product too) is that it\'s the paragon of perfection, with each iteration more perfect than the last. This, coupled with the fact that many iPhone users tend to be religious snobs who are almost religiously attached to their devices (and who will not miss an opportunity to harsh on competing devices) makes it a prime opportunity for chuckles when something does go wrong. It\'s made even better when Apple does a song and dance to claim that the issue isn\'t real, like with Antennagate last year.

You\'ll find that the chuckles generally cease when Apple responds quickly and effectively to a problem, like the battery life issue. Even though the problem has yet to be solved, I\'m still not bashing them too much, despite receiving customer complaints. I\'m not bashing Apple on that one because they responded once the problem was confirmed and they\'ve tried to fix it. There\'s no hoopla, no blaming phantom problems, claiming that other phones have it worse, or telling customers that THEY\'RE doing something wrong. They\'re JUST TRYING TO FIX IT.

So yeah, I\'ve made my joke. But I\'ve also expressed a sincere wish for Apple to fix the issue, and continue with the post-Jobs precedent they set with the battery issue.

As for Android, sure, it\'s not perfect. Sure, there are gripes, and there are issues that crop up with individual devices. But Android has never been marketed as absolutely perfect, or even close to perfect. Even as good as it is right now, it\'s still a work in progress. The development team is always working to make it better in any way they can. And I would equate my love for my Android devices more to a love I would hold for a dog. Sure, maybe not the best looking dog, a bit goofy, messes up sometimes, not a \"purebred.\" But I love it, because it\'s a faithful companion that still does its best to please me and is always there.

That analogy may not make any sense to some people reading this. But as someone who lost a dog I love very much last year, it\'s the best way to describe it. (the degree to which I love my Android phones isn\'t nearly as much as I loved my dog, by the way. Just a similar kind of love). If some asshole were to come along and try to make fun of my dog, I\'d still defend him to the death. He may not be perfect, but he\'s family. And if he screws up, I\'ll help him to be better next time.

I\'m rambling. But it\'s late and I had a long day at work. Time to unwind by shooting Nazis or something.

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 14:56 1

47. andro. (Posts: 1971; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)


You actually hit the nail on the head there,Apple won't fix the sim card mechanism problems till the next iphone model much like they never fixed lasts years iphones antenna problems till supposedly this years model butfr om all the complaints coming in even this years iphone 4s is causing silent outgoing calls or dropped calls

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 10:10 2

6. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5951; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


+1 on the evil Android fairies. If the story broke closer to St. Paddy's Day, the leprechauns could be blamed, but the Android fairies will have to do.

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 10:11 5

7. bigboss (Posts: 74; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)


I said it a month ago that iPhones are full of flaws and new iPhones are always with new problems lol.By the way, where is taco? I want him here to say that the problem is with SIM cards having open metal parts that can cause short circuit lol. Waiting to be moderated and getting a million thumbs down....

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 10:38 4

9. ivanko34 (Posts: 617; Member since: 04 Sep 2011)


Again ? A new bug each week ?
If I remember past issues, iPhone is not designed to make phone calls

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 14:59 2

48. andro. (Posts: 1971; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)


Agreed if you want an iphone but an ipod touch. If you buy an iphone still after most staff in stores do not want apple fans complaints when you try return the phone over all these faults!

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 15:24 2

51. Jobes (Posts: 364; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)


Do you mean if you want an ipod touch go buy an iphone 4s? Lol they do the same exact thing.

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 11:01 2

13. mannyfs (Posts: 63; Member since: 11 Feb 2011)


why do people hate on iphones? if they hate them so much why trying to immitate them?

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 11:20

14. Dmann (Posts: 165; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


That, my friend, is the difference between imitate and improve.

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 11:45 4

22. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)


How come pointing out an issue and making a joke is considered hating?

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 12:02 2

25. ngo2dd (Posts: 793; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)


Because android don't have ads about how magical, great and ground breaking their phone is

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 12:43

31. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Maybe you don't understand marketing. You're supposed to make your device look good so people buy it.

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 12:56 9

33. Jobes (Posts: 364; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)


" Maybe you don't understand marketing. You're supposed to (lie) to make your device look good so people buy it. "

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 13:05 4

34. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)


I like what you did there!

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 13:11

35. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Yea that was really creative. You android fanboys are witty.

I can tell you're extra witty because you start cussing every time you can't think of a good come back and get moderated.

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 13:18 5

37. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)


Yeah dude i'm constantly getting moderated.


What?

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 13:19 4

39. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)


Also, for the record i'm not an "Android fanboy"... I was ALL about the iPhone until something better came out when they released the D1.

Now I just see the light!

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 16:12

55. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


The D1 at least pick a phone that's believable.

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 21:58 4

63. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)


I went from iPhone3G to D1>DX> now Thunderbolt.

There has not been a single day since that first switch to the D1 where I wanted an iPhone again...

posted on 19 Nov 2011, 00:48 3

66. Sniggly (Posts: 7182; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Oh come on, seriously? Compared to the 3GS the D1 was a serious competitor. Better camera, bigger screen, physical keyboard option, premium construction, and Eclair brought Android to the heavyweight category.

The D1 was the first serious contender against the iPhone. Remember when it won Device of the Year from Time?

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 14:03 2

41. remixfa (Posts: 14135; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


taco, are you really making fun of someone for being moderated and not being witty? i mean really?? come on. could you be a bigger hippocrit?? lol

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 13:13

36. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Lying is not allowed. If they were lying in any ad they'd be forced to remove or change the ad.

Not liking the way they pitch their product doesn't make it lying.

I will wait for this to sink in and wait for another witty response.

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 13:18

38. Jobes (Posts: 364; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)


Playfully twisting truths then.

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 14:04 3

42. remixfa (Posts: 14135; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


calling it magical isnt a lie. im sure to a person that has never seen a smartphone before, it would be magical. they dont really talk about the phone that much in the commercials, they just call it all sorts of words to evoke emotion, and then end it by shaming you with the "if its not an iphone" junk. well duh.. if its not an iphone.. its a ford!!! what?

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 15:28 2

52. Jobes (Posts: 364; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)


And calling it magical when clearly it isn't... would that not be a lie? By any means an iphone does not do magical things :)

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 15:48 3

53. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)


The iPhone DOES do magical things.

How else do you describe millions of people buying a faulty product, thinking it's the best thing since sliced bread, and defending it to the death other than MAGIC.

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 16:06 2

54. Jobes (Posts: 364; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)


Brainwashing isn't magic!!!!!

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 16:14

56. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Keep trying to justify it while the records fall.

posted on 18 Nov 2011, 16:37 2

59. Jobes (Posts: 364; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)


Apple is good at marketing lol no doubt. They relate with consumers with a fancy forked tongue. Not everyone is a blind consumer tempted to eat the forbidden fruit Taco. The smarter people get the more they want. The only people still standing with apple are either the blind.. the uninformed or the "followers"

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