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So, um, why exactly do carriers throttle the top 5% of data users again?

0. phoneArena 23 Feb 2012, 12:59 posted on

An analysis of data usage in 2011 shows that carriers that throttle the top 5% of unlimited data users aren't actually helping with network congestion. So why do they do it...

This is a discussion for a news. To read the whole news, click here

posted on 23 Feb 2012, 13:03 3

1. bigdawg23 (Posts: 455; Member since: 25 May 2011)


I have ATT Unlimited Plan. To date(Knock on Wood) have not been throttled when eclipsing 2GB.

My opinion is why they don't touch tiered is if they go over they pay for it. People like me on Unlimited go get to 50GB while still paying $30.

posted on 23 Feb 2012, 13:05 1

2. squallz506 (banned) (Posts: 1075; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)


dollar dollar bill yall!

ive got 5GB of 4g on magenta, and have yet to go over my limit.

these shady practices are what keeps me on prepaid.

posted on 23 Feb 2012, 13:05 9

3. LoneShaolin (Posts: 307; Member since: 14 Jan 2012)


f**king agreed! I have one friend who has ATT Unlimited Data and is throttled after 1.5GB religiously. And I have a friend on Verizon Unlimited Data who has used 25GB every month he has had it, even spiking up to 109GB LAST MONTH to test out the throttling theory. Not only was he not throttled, he was never warned about a throttling issue either.

posted on 23 Feb 2012, 13:30 7

6. pooked (Posts: 56; Member since: 27 Jan 2012)


we all know between verizon and att who the clear winner is...been a big red fan since before late 90's and still remain loyal to the big red army!!

too soon?

posted on 23 Feb 2012, 14:57

15. superguy (Posts: 293; Member since: 15 Jul 2011)


How's that possible? VZ/VZW didn't even exist before 2000.

So who were you a big fan of before 2000?

posted on 23 Feb 2012, 15:28 4

16. hobble (Posts: 130; Member since: 11 Oct 2011)


I think he's talking about the kool aid man.

posted on 23 Feb 2012, 16:31

21. quakan (Posts: 1381; Member since: 02 Mar 2011)


I think he's talking about the pop or gum. lol

posted on 23 Feb 2012, 16:36 1

22. corporateJP (Posts: 2431; Member since: 28 Nov 2009)


That's not entirely true.

It was three companies unified into one, then they bought out a bunch of different regionals.

He could've been on Airtouch or GTE before they merged and became Verizon.

Just sayin'...

posted on 23 Feb 2012, 16:37 2

23. EclipseGSX (Posts: 1719; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


or the Nebraska Cornhuskers lol

posted on 24 Feb 2012, 02:07 1

34. CellieCell (Posts: 125; Member since: 14 Apr 2010)


I am also on Verizon's unlimited data and average 12-15GB per month, luckily I haven't seen any throttling. ^_^v

posted on 23 Feb 2012, 13:05 2

4. Habib (Posts: 114; Member since: 26 Feb 2011)


I would add to the article, that verizon throttles the unlimited with only 3G network, that excludes unlimited 4G data plans :D!

posted on 23 Feb 2012, 13:41 7

8. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)


How much can Verizon really throttle 3G? Not trolling or anything because I have Verizon and love it but the 3G is already pretty slow as it is...

posted on 23 Feb 2012, 14:50 2

13. Scott_H (Posts: 167; Member since: 28 Oct 2011)


Good point Habib, added.

posted on 23 Feb 2012, 13:20 2

5. cybervlad81 (Posts: 89; Member since: 04 Apr 2011)


Running on 3G, on Verizon and have yet to see a throttle, half way through this bill cycle and am at 3.5GB I usually hit +/- 5GB a month due to a long commute and excessive Dogcatcher(Podcast) use.

posted on 23 Feb 2012, 13:33 4

7. PimpStrong (Posts: 310; Member since: 25 Jul 2011)


I just thank God for T-Mobile's cheap $20 2GB plan because with CPU access at work and WiFi at home, I'll never have to worry about going over or throttling.

Bring on the $20/MO LTE!!

posted on 23 Feb 2012, 13:43 2

9. imkyle (Posts: 1076; Member since: 18 Nov 2010)


My dad still has the $30 unlimited data plan for the iPhone since 2009 and he says that he does notice a slower speed when used above a certain amount.

posted on 23 Feb 2012, 13:54 4

10. 14545 (Posts: 1605; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)


I have to stand by VZW on this issue, and this issue alone. I use somewhere between 4-10 gb's a month. Typically around 5-6, but I have had more and less, and I have never been throttled. I consider myself a heavy user, but if you are using >15gb a month, then you need to learn to not be so selfish. I tether when not in range of wifi, but usually < an hour or so a month. I can honestly say, that if I was on ATT, I would leave. I have a friend on ATT and he was throttled at 2 gb last month on his iphone. And he isn't jailbroken and never uses it in a way that wouldn't be deemed "normal" usage.

posted on 23 Feb 2012, 14:57 3

14. Scott_H (Posts: 167; Member since: 28 Oct 2011)


We specifically agreed that it's a legitimate practice to throttle speeds on network abusers - the point is that most people who fall into that "top 5% of data users" aren't actually using any more data than tiered customers, so they are being punished for nothing more than not upgrading to a plan the carrier prefers (be it 4G or tiered...but tiered is what they really want).

posted on 23 Feb 2012, 13:58

11. Jammers (Posts: 6; Member since: 05 May 2011)


The companies won't stop it until We the Consumers use our mighty dollar and take our buisness elsewhere. Sadly, most of us are such sheep we won't. How long before the Big guys decide unlimited texting isn't profitable enough and shy away from 'unlimited' plans for that as well? Don't be so silly to think they WON'T do it if they think they'll get away with it. All it takes REALLY is one of the Big Two.

posted on 23 Feb 2012, 22:13

29. Cwebb (Posts: 501; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)


Because texting is so cheap as it is their already making a killing off that. I remember an older article saying that.

posted on 24 Feb 2012, 08:07

36. Jammers (Posts: 6; Member since: 05 May 2011)


Texting is essentially FREE for the carriers. Trust me though, if they think they can squeeze a few more dollars out, they will. Why do you think AT&T was one of the last to GET an Unlimited plan?

posted on 23 Feb 2012, 14:16 5

12. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


lol, i hit almost 20gb of data last month. of course, im on a no-throttle employee plan. :)

posted on 23 Feb 2012, 15:39 2

17. Magog14 (Posts: 3; Member since: 07 Feb 2012)


If it weren't for people hacking their phones to tether for free the carriers wouldn't bother throttling.

posted on 23 Feb 2012, 15:58 1

18. Scott_H (Posts: 167; Member since: 28 Oct 2011)


The data in the article shows this is not true. While there clearly are individuals who do this and end up abusing their data plan, on average the top 5% of unlimited data users are indistinguishable from the top 5% of tiered data users - so it's unrelated to tethering abuse.

posted on 23 Feb 2012, 16:38 1

24. corporateJP (Posts: 2431; Member since: 28 Nov 2009)


True, but tethering was a big part of why carriers switched to tiered.

They aren't totally stupid.

Regardless, it is a good point.

posted on 24 Feb 2012, 00:13 2

33. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


as a person working for teh carriers, i dissagree. what happened was one carrier had the balls to charge for it... aka a major one.. and the rest followed suite after they realized that people didnt gather their pitch forks.
the only reason there is tiered data plans is so they can reduce the cost for those that dont want the plan but want the phone (in which the carrier still nets more than the people that never make the switch to smartphones), and raise the cost on those that need the plan and intend on using it.

posted on 25 Feb 2012, 08:11

44. atheisticemetic (Posts: 377; Member since: 18 Dec 2011)


limewire was a pretty big contributor (at least in West Michigan) as to the push toward tiered plans

as I mentioned before, it's usually one person to ruin it for the rest of us...i miss my unl data

posted on 23 Feb 2012, 21:14

28. miles16852 (Posts: 241; Member since: 20 Oct 2011)


WRONG!!!!!

posted on 24 Feb 2012, 21:43

43. cnpthe3rd (Posts: 86; Member since: 01 Feb 2009)


as for tethering what difference does it make I use my phone basically the same as my computer why does it matter if i tether or not

posted on 23 Feb 2012, 16:09

19. medicci37 (Posts: 1287; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)


This is what happens when big bussiness is deregulated. It should be illegal for carriers to throttle customers unless they go over 5 gigs. @ Magog that makes no sense. Its not about tethering. its about how much data people use. Tmo doesn't charge extra for tethering. & users don't have to tether to use more than 2 gigs.

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