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Snapdragon S4 Pro with Adreno 320 graphics is the first to top the new iPad's PowerVR GPU

0. phoneArena 16 Aug 2012, 04:48 posted on

For the first time we have something else than the new iPad on top of the GLBenchmark test, and it is an LG E970 device with Snapdragon S4 Pro and Adreno 320 GPU...

This is a discussion for a news. To read the whole news, click here

posted on 16 Aug 2012, 13:58

51. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4888; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)


I can respect that comment. I am cool with any chip out there. Exynos, OMAP, & Krait are all fabulous chips plain & simple.

I am with you 100%.

+1

posted on 16 Aug 2012, 13:59 1

52. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4888; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)


+1 Again!

You have to admit the speculation posting is fun though! lol

posted on 16 Aug 2012, 14:13

54. KParks23 (Posts: 675; Member since: 13 Oct 2010)


Yea fan boys like u.. of course when they release the 5 chips they will be better the current qualcomm would have been out almost a year comparing what's out now qualcomm is on top they have a duel core almost matching Sammy but with better battery management you guys have the absolute dumbest thought process

Qualcomm is out now but it's garbage because in a year Sammy and ti will have a better chip lol..

Then when the Sammy and ti chips come out and then qualcomm makes a better chip it will be.. ok just wait in 2 years when the omap 6 comes out it will show that crapdragon who is boss.. u and remixa are retarded..

posted on 16 Aug 2012, 14:17 2

56. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5713; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


oh yeah, i'm always down for a good debate. it gets those brain juices flowing. with all the smart people we have here we should be able to figure out anything. ;D

posted on 16 Aug 2012, 14:24

58. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5713; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


i'm comparing the OMAP5 to the S4 Pro guy. their dual-core uses a newer and better architecture, it's not quite up to A15 snuff but it's definitely good enough to get it compared to quad A9s without it being a joke. i wonder now if you even know what you're talking about...

don't try my patience with that exaggerated nonsense. homie don't play dat.

posted on 16 Aug 2012, 15:13

63. KParks23 (Posts: 675; Member since: 13 Oct 2010)


Yea and the s4pro will be out late this year the omap 5 will be out almost 6months later.. that's my point something 6 months later should be better

posted on 16 Aug 2012, 15:19

64. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5713; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


what did i just tell you? SKAT TROLL!

posted on 16 Aug 2012, 15:25

65. KParks23 (Posts: 675; Member since: 13 Oct 2010)


Ii don't care what u just told me Ur just a typical dumbass fan boy..

posted on 16 Aug 2012, 15:43 1

68. remixfa (Posts: 14597; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


Yea, I was just thinking that we havent had a good chip debate thread in a while....

and poof.. here it is :)

How have you been KK :)

posted on 16 Aug 2012, 15:45

69. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5713; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


where's the sense in anything you've told me? you really think the OMAP5 will come out in April of next year? you're the dumbass...

posted on 16 Aug 2012, 15:46

70. remixfa (Posts: 14597; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


how about this.

I will officially stop calling it crapdragon when the S4-Pro is available on US shelves for retail in phones. At that point, even being the worst of whats coming out next is still pretty damn powerful. :)

The under-powered GPU on the S4 most definitely deserves the crapdragon moniker. UGH. Had they had the new pro in the american SGS3, I probably would have picked one up. The Adreno 225 in the regular S4 is just pitiful though.

However, if/when we get to the point where they actually how to figure out how to take the pro/E5/Omap5 to their max stress points, then the name is back on if its still in last place. But that should be a good while from now. :)

posted on 16 Aug 2012, 15:54

71. remixfa (Posts: 14597; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


dude.. you are still confusing timelines

There has been NO OFFICIAL announcement of any phone with ANY of these chips ON SALE in America any time soon. Your confusing leaks as "official". Just because one has more leaks than the other doesnt mean that its coming any sooner.
Will the S4 pro be in an american phone for sale sooner than the Exynos5? Yea, more than likely. Will it be for sale A LOT sooner than the E5? Probably not. My guess is your window is probably 1-2 months before the E5 has a commercial launch at best.

Your wild eyed belief that the E5 is going to be immediately "answered" by the S4- Quad is also crazy. There is NOTHING official about a timeline for those either. If you see one in a phone, on an american carrier BEFORE Q2 of 2013, ill buy you a soda.

I Dont disagree that Q is going to beat Sammy to the launch punch.. they normally do. But sammy has a 100% rate of kicking the crap out of Q when they do launch.

Besides, when the Pro/quad and the E5/E5-quad release we will be in a zone of "who really gives a crap.. were swimming in excess power". :)

posted on 16 Aug 2012, 15:56 1

72. remixfa (Posts: 14597; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


you do realize that the S4 was to answer samsung's exynos line which was making mincemeat out of the horrid S3 chip, right? It is just an interm chip designed to keep Qualcomm relevant until they could get ahold of the Adreno 320.

posted on 16 Aug 2012, 16:08 1

73. kingpet13 (Posts: 139; Member since: 02 Feb 2012)


Remixfa, normally you are ao much smarter than this. The gpu on the s4 is not underpowered. It is one of the most powerful available. Also the s4 pro is comeing this year to China. To say that snapdragon still sucks, because for marketing purpouses they released a weaker processer in america is just illogical. I mean China right now has the biggest smartphone market not America. Alos i just want to say that the s4 may not be the best in the future but it is now and has been for a few months. It is certainatley no longer a Crapdragon.

posted on 16 Aug 2012, 16:16

75. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5713; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


can't complain. you?

posted on 16 Aug 2012, 16:29 1

84. remixfa (Posts: 14597; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


hell no, Just ended another semester of school. One more left till graduation in december. cant frikkin wait. I like making money, not being a poor student.. lol

posted on 16 Aug 2012, 16:35

85. remixfa (Posts: 14597; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


the S4 uses the adreno 225 which is a HORRIBLE GPU compared to the Mali 400 or even the T3's. It is a minor upgrade to the S3's HORRIBLE Adreno 220 gpu which isnt even as powerful as my old Galaxy S1's PowerVR GPU. You know its bad when you get out benched by a single core chip that came out the year before.

The regular S4 is an INTERM chip designed to keep Q relevant and selling chips until they could launch the S4-Pro with the Adreno 320. Why do you think they are rereleasing the exact same CPU with a new GPU. Do you see anyone else doing that? ever? The S4 quad is the exact same CPU/GPU as the pro with 2 extra cores on the chip. You might get a 20-30% brute force calculations bump with the Quad, and a nicer Quadrant score if they O/C the Adreno 320 a bit.

All of my opinions are based on comparisons of the similar chips in each class.

BTW, Quadrant benchmarks became irrelevant a LONG time ago. That hasnt changed. Dont wet your pants over quadrant scores.

Your right, I am much smarter than that.. which is why I'm right :) :) :)

posted on 16 Aug 2012, 16:43 1

86. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5713; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


yeah, i know the feeling. xD

posted on 16 Aug 2012, 17:17 1

89. kingpet13 (Posts: 139; Member since: 02 Feb 2012)


Is quadrant the same thing is glbennchmark? Cause if you look at the glbenchmarks right now it is essentially snapdragon s4 pro>apple>huawei>/=s4>exynos. Which brings me to wonder two things, why does samsung give apple a more powerful graphics processor than the s3(I mean they essentially made the iPad 3s processor) and why cant huawei be more popular(they have good designs powerful self made processors, and innovative ideas)? Of course i could be wrong and quadrant could run glbenchmark. But i don't think they do.

posted on 16 Aug 2012, 18:35 1

93. remixfa (Posts: 14597; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


its not a "give". Samsung designs the CPU for Apple. Its essentially a redressed exynos 4212 (the dual core version of the chip in the SGS3). Before someone cries foul over what I just said, Apple bought Intrinsic who is where Samsung originally got the base designs for the Hummingbird/Exynos, but it has been Samsung making pretty much all the advancements on the chip..

That brings us to the GPU. That has nothing to do with samsung. Apple has contracts with PowerVR (and something tells me a non-compete clause with samsung so they cant use the same GPU) who supplies the GPU to samsung to install on Apple's version of the chip.

Samsung by choice or by force goes with the 2nd strongest GPU, which is the Mali series. Apple hasnt always had the lead. Back when the i4 came out, the SGS1 and the i4 used nearly the same CPU/GPU combo. Samsung had a slightly newer version of the PowerVR that Apple was also using, which gave it a slight graphic power advantage. Apple bought Intrinsic right after that and Samsung switched to Mali from then on out... which is why I think there's something in the Apple paperwork preventing Samsung from using PowerVR anymore

posted on 16 Aug 2012, 18:37 1

95. remixfa (Posts: 14597; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


oh. and no.. quadrant is its own test.

Those are prelim benchmarks. Never trust a benchmark that doesnt come from a store bought retail unit. Prelim benchmarks have a tenancy to be done in the "best possible" conditions.. something you wont see in real life.

The GPU in the S4 Pro is darn nice.. no one is doubting that.

posted on 16 Aug 2012, 19:30 1

100. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)


"Carriers want to be able to wave their "4g" flags and impossible to reach max theoretical limits instead of using a chip thats much stronger. That's harder to market to the masses who dont know jack about chips."

Exactly though man.....Its not about who's got the fastest chip its about satifying "EVERYONE" and doing what you are demanding will only satisfy people who "do know" jack about chips.......

.pride is a bad thing man you are acting as if the S4 dual and the S4 pros will not be enough to do any thing and everything you want on a phone.....and just like you say carriers wanna "wave" their 4g signs......well you wanna "wave" your benchmark speeds in the air just to say "Im faster than you"...........come on dude stoop down a little......qualcomm is going to be the standard chip for some time to come simply because it is doing well in ALL areas....

posted on 17 Aug 2012, 07:13 1

102. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4888; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)


We should all combine our efforts & try to make a rocket or a space ship to orbit the Earth. lol

Yeah my 4 year old kid has been talking rockets & space ships for about a month now. lol

posted on 17 Aug 2012, 08:33

104. kingpet13 (Posts: 139; Member since: 02 Feb 2012)


Thank you I have been trying to figure that out for ages. I just couldn't find a good site to explain it. I wonder what the ss would do on the antutu benchmarks with the PowerVR. Probably design a table to take over all of apples market share. :P

posted on 17 Aug 2012, 10:14

107. remixfa (Posts: 14597; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


its only "the standard" in America because of their lockdown on LTE integration in the US.

"the standard" by actual sales numbers is Samsung by a wide wide wide margin. Again, for the 900th time, samsung alone sells well more than half of all androids sold. Almost all non US samsung phones are run by samsung chips. ALL apple phones are run by samsung chips.
Qualcomm's biggest customer is samsung because of the US chip switch out demanded by carriers. Once samsung gets integrated LTE working, that switch out will end quickly, which will be a huge blow to Q.

posted on 19 Aug 2012, 09:28 1

114. remixfa (Posts: 14597; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


ha. I can help with programming and medical. lol. (dusts off old visual basic programming book).. hey do we still use this programming language? lol

posted on 16 Aug 2012, 07:34 1

12. Bluesky02 (Posts: 1439; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)


Heard there's an ex-AMD guy working over there

posted on 16 Aug 2012, 08:25

18. 305Bucko (Posts: 506; Member since: 07 Aug 2011)


Qualcomm bought AMD/ATI So that doesnt surprise me.

posted on 16 Aug 2012, 13:46

50. Bluesky02 (Posts: 1439; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)


Nah they didn't buy AMD/ATi, its just that there are some ex-AMD guys over there doing a great job

posted on 16 Aug 2012, 08:03 3

14. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


Just like I predicted, arguing with those ridiculous snapdragon haters Remixfa and KK.

This is the phone SoC champion of 2012.
Will there be an Exynos dual in phones at al this year?
Or an OMAP 5?

Tegra 3+ for sure can't compete with this.

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