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Smartphones with Quad HD (1440 x 2560) resolution displays: who's next?

0. phoneArena 07 Jul 2014, 08:18 posted on

Gather round, gather round! It's time we take a peek into a certain piece of technology that, for good or bad, is very likely here to stay: Quad HD displays (or pixel resolution of 1440x2560). We've been anxiously expecting those for a while now, and yet, as of right now, there are only a few devices on our list that actually sport one. Of course, if you have been paying close attention to the Android world, you'll be likely aware that the current status-quo reminds of an arms race. So, even a singular manufacturer can start a new trend, and we have all reasons to believe this to be the case with Quad HD displays, at least as far as flagships go...

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posted on 27 Dec 2013, 10:02 8

1. mayur007 (Posts: 382; Member since: 10 Apr 2012)


2014 xperias should have OIS if its a z1 upgrade then it will be "icing on the cake"

z1 does captures awesome pics , sony should work better on the software part to optimize the picture and video..

posted on 27 Dec 2013, 18:25

37. AppleHateBoy (unregistered)


Afaik Android doesnt support greater than 480 ppi displays. For the Vivo, there won't be too much trouble since it's near to 480. However, if I am right about the 480 ppi thing, Oppo will be in a huge mess.

But, "I guess we'll find out, won't we."

posted on 28 Dec 2013, 01:05

44. c933103 (Posts: 1; Member since: 28 Dec 2013)


......vivo is a sub-brand of oppo...

posted on 28 Dec 2013, 05:22 2

52. csoulr666 (Posts: 74; Member since: 04 Nov 2013)


Support for 480+ ppi(XXXHDPI) displays was added in either 4.3 or 4.4 if I'm remember correctly

posted on 07 Jul 2014, 19:00

69. TheOldOne (Posts: 80; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


I guess You Know Nothing, Jon AppleHateBoy Snow!

The limitation you're speaking about may be realted to the resolution but has nothing to do with the pixed density.

Resolution is how many pizels are in total, as the OS needs to handle all the real-estate of the display to draw the guy, apps, etc.
Density is just how good the engineers are at packing the above resolution into a smaller or bigger screen (phisical size that is). No OS cares how small a pixel is or big, you can make it (the pixel) bigg as brick it will not care.

You need also more memory on the graphic card to suport a bigger resolution; the biggest resolution supported by Android, confirmed by the devices that runs it at the moment, I believe is 1440p - look for smart TV running Android. Android Tablets are also comming.

posted on 28 Dec 2013, 12:11 2

58. superkuiken (Posts: 42; Member since: 24 Mar 2013)


you know that Optical Image Stabilization is no software, right?

posted on 27 Dec 2013, 10:03 13

2. Odiin (Posts: 212; Member since: 23 Apr 2013)


What about Battery? Why there is no competion between manufacturers in Battery technology?

posted on 27 Dec 2013, 11:52 4

14. PootisMan (Posts: 199; Member since: 02 Aug 2013)


I don't mind the jump in resolution, but if battery is affected in a major way than I can certainly wait for battery tech to catch up.

posted on 27 Dec 2013, 13:23 3

22. Amir1 (Posts: 256; Member since: 20 Aug 2013)


Cause batteries are not sexy.

posted on 27 Dec 2013, 14:11 1

28. Dr.Phil (Posts: 894; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)


In a way, there has been some competition with battery technology. LG introduced Lithium Polymer battery technology in their flagship device which is a step up from the Lithium Ion battery technology found in the competition.

posted on 07 Jul 2014, 21:10 1

71. chebner (Posts: 124; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


LG has made advances in battery technology, and last year's G2 was one of the longest lasting for a flagship. This year? Enter the QHD screen plus additional power saving features and battery live still goes down.

All the R&D spent on the power saving features negated, and then some, by a screen that provides no visual improvements. Hmmm... seems like money well spent.

posted on 28 Dec 2013, 03:41

49. LikeMyself (Posts: 232; Member since: 23 Sep 2013)


Yeah!Go to hell with your display resolutions.We want better quality displays.Manufacturers and people should learn difference between QUALITY and QUANTITY!F*** u dumb people.
Battery and quality are most important!

posted on 27 Dec 2013, 10:27 2

3. Bishop_99 (Posts: 63; Member since: 04 Dec 2013)


Yes! QHD, the correct name for this display!

Completely doubtful Apple would even venture here since their iPhones aren't even HD.

posted on 27 Dec 2013, 11:12 4

10. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3512; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)


Maybe not Apple, but Nokia/Microkia is very likely to join the QHD party sooner, than later.. With devices like the 1020, 929, and the 1520,, it's obvious that "Lumia" now understands how important it is to have the latest, and greatest hardware, which WP does have now.. I'd have to disagree with the article, not saying that a Lumia device will be first, but I believe well see QHD in 2014... WP8.1 either would already have support for QHD, or QHD would be a small GDR update away... So, I would put Microkia next on the list......

posted on 27 Dec 2013, 11:17 1

12. Bishop_99 (Posts: 63; Member since: 04 Dec 2013)


Good point.

posted on 28 Dec 2013, 10:06 1

56. TonyStark (Posts: 5; Member since: 10 Oct 2012)


Microkia?

Microsoft+Nokia?

LMAO!!!!!!!!111oneone

posted on 27 Dec 2013, 10:30 2

4. zuckerboy (Posts: 898; Member since: 22 Dec 2011)


it will be great that watching videos on 5+ inches, 1440p display...and games also :D

posted on 27 Dec 2013, 10:37 9

5. dexter_jdr (Posts: 1116; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)


fukc my pc monitor is outdated.

posted on 27 Dec 2013, 12:08 2

15. REXTECH (Posts: 15; Member since: 04 Dec 2013)


Yeah man. That's what I was gonna write before I read yours. PC display sucks.

posted on 27 Dec 2013, 17:13

35. fireblade (Posts: 656; Member since: 27 Dec 2013)


hahaha..

posted on 27 Dec 2013, 10:46 11

6. csoulr666 (Posts: 74; Member since: 04 Nov 2013)


A small screen with such high resolutions seems to be more than a gimmick to me to be honest
Heck a 720p resolution is sufficient for a majority of people for displays upto 5.5 inches(the Galaxy note to has it and looks really good for normal usage)
This actually shows how manufacturers exploit "The more the merrier" thought hidden deep in the Human mind. QHD in a tablet is OK but in a five incher it would be very battery consuming plus people won't be able to tell it from a 1080p display unless they compare it side by side(after the initial placebo effect wears off that is)

posted on 27 Dec 2013, 10:58 5

8. Bishop_99 (Posts: 63; Member since: 04 Dec 2013)


If you play 1280x720 videos on a QHD phone or a 1080p or a 720p phone, then naturally you won't see a difference the display can't add more information to the video. But once you play a 2.5K or 4K video on these different phones, the visual difference will be very apparent.

For those people that feel that 720p is "good enough," this is not for them as the visual experience is not their priority and they truly don't look for it. For those people which main focus is the visual experience, the 2560x1440 displays will offer true benefits as we are always looking at the best visual experience possible, instead of it being just as another feature of the phone.

posted on 28 Dec 2013, 05:26 1

53. csoulr666 (Posts: 74; Member since: 04 Nov 2013)


A 720p screen is "good enough" if tweaked properly, take the iPhone 5..........It isn't even 720p but it's display is still praised and put against 1080p ones

posted on 28 Dec 2013, 09:07 1

55. Bishop_99 (Posts: 63; Member since: 04 Dec 2013)


It's "good enough" for those people that don't put the display as a priority. The iPhone's display doesn't look bad, but it looks noticeable softer when you put it up against 1080p screens. The fact that it isn't an HD screen shows.

posted on 07 Jul 2014, 20:47 1

70. chebner (Posts: 124; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


Bishop, you hit the nail on the head... "naturally you won't see a difference the display can't add more information to the video". But this is also an argument supporting why QHD screens make absolutely no sense. Resolution scaling is better than ever these days, but it's still not perfect. Whether scaling up or scaling down, there will always be scaling artifacts that will soften the image.

When watching videos the only way a QHD display will display all the detail it is capable of without any scaling artifacts is with native QHD videos. Where exactly are you going to get native 2560x1440 video? Haven't you ever noticed that other than the few 4k products available, all HD video sources top out at 1080p? I did a little looking and the cell phones that do 4k video don't even do QHD, at least they don't list it in their specs. This is probably because QHD isn't a standard video format. The standard video formats are 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i (rarely used anymore), 1080p, and 4k UHD.

This means that unless you have some way of making your own native QHD videos, everything you ever watch will either be up converted from 1080p (or worse), or down converted from 4k. So any chance your beloved QHD screen would have ever had in displaying more visually perceptible detail than 1080p will be negated by scaling artifacts.

I find it comical that you demand a higher resolution screen, but I'm going to go out on a limb and guess you're perfectly fine streaming "1080p" to watch on your TV, Computer, tablet, or however you watch video at home. For such a demanding videophile such as yourself I'm surprised an inferior "1080p" online video stream would be "good enough" for you.

posted on 27 Dec 2013, 11:16 7

11. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3512; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)


You're completely wrong.. Once you get your first 1080p display, look at it for a few hours, then look back at your old phone, you'll never repeat that again... And, looking at my 1520's 1080p display it's crazy better than the 768p display of my 920, but I can still see how it can be sharper around the edges of text, and stills.. QHD is no gimmick❕

posted on 27 Dec 2013, 11:50

13. zuckerboy (Posts: 898; Member since: 22 Dec 2011)


you r right when I look at s4's display after s3's display ; there is trully big difference. This difference can be identified easliy on internet broswer..

posted on 27 Dec 2013, 13:04 2

20. bigstrudel (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)


Thats because when you take into account that the S3 shares 1 out of 3 pixels youre looking at a PPI down in the 200's. That's the reason that a couple years ago the One X's display was lauded as far superior than the S3 that was released months later. The display was never impressive to begin with.

posted on 27 Dec 2013, 23:46

42. lalalaman (Posts: 294; Member since: 19 Aug 2013)


well u r right but QHD only works with 5.5+ screen and not smaller than that imo...1520 is good enuf....but if these smartphones have larger screen then its not a gimmick

posted on 28 Dec 2013, 02:17 1

48. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5591; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


The only question I have about QHD is what happens to the data allowance once 2k or 4k video content comes online in response to the new displays. A monthly 4Gb allowance gets tanked how far into a 4k movie?

4k video is awesome, no denying that fact.

posted on 07 Jul 2014, 21:15

72. chebner (Posts: 124; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


4k will be awesome on a big a$$ TV.

But I hope 4k content isn't limited to streaming. 1080p streaming still hasn't matched BluRay video quality. How is it going to come close to true 4k anytime soon?

Don't get me started on audio quality of online streams.

posted on 27 Dec 2013, 12:51

19. Ashoaib (Posts: 1306; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)


What? 720p is ok? you cant see the significant difference between note 2's and note 3's screen? Really? Hmm.. probably, vision test required here. nice spectacle with correct glasses will do the job, plz try it

posted on 07 Jul 2014, 13:29

67. PressStart (Posts: 112; Member since: 08 Apr 2014)


I can understand that the best possible resolution isn't necessary, but there is an evolution of almost everything in this world. I think if the tech is there, it'll be used. It's a natural course towards the floating holographic UI display we see in science fiction films. We'll have those one day!

posted on 27 Dec 2013, 10:51 10

7. yowanvista (Posts: 298; Member since: 20 Sep 2011)


Such high resolutions are gimmicky, anything above 1080p is pointless on such small devices. Unless you've got cyborg eyes to notice the difference at the pixel level.

posted on 27 Dec 2013, 11:00 2

9. Bishop_99 (Posts: 63; Member since: 04 Dec 2013)


You don't need to see the individual pixels, it's not gimmicky. Play a full HD video on a Moto X and on an HTC One. You won't be able to see the individual pixels on either phones, but the HTC One will offer a much more sharper and detailed image.

The increased resolution here is not about being able to spot the individual pixels or not, but have all those pixels come together to offer a better picture quality.

posted on 27 Dec 2013, 13:27 1

23. Amir1 (Posts: 256; Member since: 20 Aug 2013)


Exactly. i don't know why some people fail to understand. is it too hard to understand? it's just like going from 720p to 1080p. thre is difference. it's not huge one for 5" display, but there is still difference. phablets will benefit more from 2k displays though.

posted on 27 Dec 2013, 13:58 3

26. bigstrudel (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)


The issue is the performance and battery life tax for that small improvement. Other aspects of the display experience that are just as important can be improved without any added processor and GPU strain.

posted on 27 Dec 2013, 14:05

27. Bishop_99 (Posts: 63; Member since: 04 Dec 2013)


Yes, but only if the specs would remain exactly the same while increasing the resolution. That is not the case though, as the majority of these 1080p phones have outperformed their predecessor with a 720p display. The specs while be there so these higher resolution displays will outperform current 1080p phones.

posted on 27 Dec 2013, 15:38 1

30. bigstrudel (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)


But the fact still remains. Less resolution = Less CPU/GPU strain and better battery life.

On newer hardware the point remains valid. The extra power of the newer processor could be utilized making the same resolution tax the system less leading to longer battery life.

posted on 27 Dec 2013, 16:15

31. Bishop_99 (Posts: 63; Member since: 04 Dec 2013)


That would go for any resolution though. If you brought it down to 720x480, it would run even better. I don't see what's the problem with increasing the resolution when we are going to get a better performing phone anyways.

posted on 27 Dec 2013, 12:16

17. zuckerboy (Posts: 898; Member since: 22 Dec 2011)


they said same thing for 1080p but now...

posted on 27 Dec 2013, 13:14 3

21. bigstrudel (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)


1080p remains a gimmick as far as Im concerned. Just because its become the standard because of competition doesnt mean that its still not wasted spec. Lower resolutions are less taxing on the CPU and GPU, and that saves battery life while simultaneously increasing performance . Thats a fact.

Ive worked on many Android devices in which you can change the resolution by flashing different custom ROM's. The 720p variants always outperform 1080p both on benchmarks and UI performance.

posted on 27 Dec 2013, 16:46 1

34. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3512; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)


No... Lets not go with that theory...
Your contracts nowhere to being up, I presume❔

posted on 27 Dec 2013, 16:44

33. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3512; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)


That's what people said about 720p.
That's what people said about 1080p.
You're "that guy"... When are y'all ever going to learn❔

posted on 27 Dec 2013, 12:14 1

16. mmmanuuu (Posts: 207; Member since: 05 Nov 2013)


When everyone is putting their new display techs on their future smartphones htc is researching on how to stay behind with a year old display tech and with a crappy camera. Lazy ignorant mess !!!!

posted on 27 Dec 2013, 16:33 1

32. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 761; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)


And you write ignorant comments, on 5 inches the jump from FHD to QHD will be barely noticeable if noticeable at all, but it will come with more CPU/GPU strain and possible battery strain too, if HTC goes for the same SoC as he competition they will have much better benchmark scores because of the lower resolution, keep being ignorant, i'll enjoy my extra battery life and performance.

posted on 27 Dec 2013, 12:24 1

18. JerryTime (Posts: 468; Member since: 09 Nov 2013)


Anyone else considering giving the G3 a shot besides me?! Man ever since they announced that phone I have been drooling over it.

posted on 28 Dec 2013, 01:52

47. box14380 (Posts: 16; Member since: 28 Nov 2013)


Currently, I'm very content with my Samsung Galaxy Note 3 with its brilliant vivid 1080p resolution.

I just won it as giveaways during the 18th annual charity run in Dammam, Saudi Arabia.

posted on 27 Dec 2013, 13:35 1

24. emperor (Posts: 7; Member since: 11 Dec 2013)


phonearena u forgot about the note 4

posted on 27 Dec 2013, 13:46

25. geodude074 (Posts: 67; Member since: 05 Mar 2013)


Lame. Where's my 4k display on a 5 inch screen? Hurry up phone manufacturers, get your lazy butts innovating.

I want a 5 inch phone with a 4k display,a 10,000 mah battery, an octa-core processor, 1 TB internal storage, 82 megapixel camera, all for $350 off contract. Now hurry up.

posted on 27 Dec 2013, 20:08

38. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3512; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)


Yes❕ That's exactly what I want❕.. Seriously.. But, for free on contract❕

posted on 28 Dec 2013, 01:49 1

45. box14380 (Posts: 16; Member since: 28 Nov 2013)


Currently, I'm very content with my Samsung Galaxy Note 3 with its brilliant vivid 1080p resolution.

The performance and smoothness is just awesome. The S-pen stylus' function is incredibly amazing that adds convenient in note taking.

Boy, I already ordered from Amazon the ZeroLemon 10000mAh battery.

posted on 28 Dec 2013, 01:49

46. box14380 (Posts: 16; Member since: 28 Nov 2013)


Currently, I'm very content with my Samsung Galaxy Note 3 with its brilliant vivid 1080p resolution.

The performance and smoothness is just awesome. The S-pen stylus' function is incredibly amazing that adds convenient in note taking.

Boy, I already ordered from Amazon the ZeroLemon 10000mAh battery.

posted on 27 Dec 2013, 14:43 1

29. xtremesv (Posts: 193; Member since: 21 Oct 2011)


I don't know you but I don't care for +1440p displays in smartphones, I only ask for more battery life, more internal storage, better camera, all for a reasonable price.

posted on 27 Dec 2013, 17:16

36. fireblade (Posts: 656; Member since: 27 Dec 2013)


2K amoled display, it's amazing. I wonder can Samsung implement it

posted on 27 Dec 2013, 22:18 1

39. kaikuheadhunterz (Posts: 692; Member since: 18 Jul 2013)


That awkward moment when qHD (quarter HD) already seem very sharp to me

posted on 27 Dec 2013, 22:43

40. WindowsiDroid (Posts: 108; Member since: 22 Jul 2013)


Next is Customizable Phone Parts: Change Processor, Gpu, Screen ETC.

posted on 27 Dec 2013, 23:03 1

41. ChafedBanana (Posts: 357; Member since: 20 Sep 2011)


Lowly 1080P display Phone Arena? I am completely satisfied with the resolution on my Galaxy S4. I look forward to the next Galaxy phone but not because of the sharper display. Maybe that although I'm sure it'll still be Amoled, maybe it'll be brighter for outdoors or maybe have a camera with OIS. Maybe a fuller sounding speaker. Those are the 3 areas of improvement I think have plenty of room left. But these QHD screens? There is really no need. They will only consume more power.

posted on 28 Dec 2013, 06:25 1

54. Chris.P (Posts: 257; Member since: 27 Jun 2013)


Being sarcastic with the 1080p ref.

;)

posted on 28 Dec 2013, 01:03

43. Mrmark (Posts: 124; Member since: 26 Jan 2013)


Yes who remembers the Samsung Epic 4g and its gorgeous amoled display ... Looking back it was nice moving forward not as nice as today's technology.

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