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Should your phone be a personal assistant?

0. phoneArena 21 Oct 2011, 10:11 posted on

There's been a lot of talk about Siri these days and iPhone's attempt to turn your phone into a personal assistant, but Andy Rubin doesn't believe that's what phones should be for. What do you think?...

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posted on 21 Oct 2011, 13:05

52. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Sorry you don't like facts buddy. Maybe androidcentral will treat you better where you and your buddies can all troll around free from reality

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 13:09 7

54. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2707; Member since: 26 May 2011)


It's like in grade school where if someone hit you and you hit them back, you were never "even", the hitting just continued until someone gave up or started bleeding.

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 13:15

55. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


I could call regular number on prior iOS devices, I could use commands that use simple calculations, but I couldn't have called a number depending on where I was located, or find a restaurant around my zone while I could play the music on my iPhone I just couldn't ask it to go looking for an artist ant play all their songs on my device, you know why Siri needs and internet connection? Same reason Google does.

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 13:15 2

56. Snapdude (Posts: 128; Member since: 27 Aug 2009)


and iphone fans claim iOS created voice interaction with siri.. the street goes both ways, both OS's have had the basic forms of these features for a long time... they just each decided to develop different things first leaving one to be stronger in one category than the other and vice versa... it is impossible to say one is superior to the other based off a few key fetures

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 13:20 1

57. ayephoner (Posts: 850; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)


i dont know, sniggly. i think its much more one sided (at least with the comments that are made on this site).

and the copying thing should not be so offensive. the two systems (and others) are pushing the industry forward. they do this by borrowing from each other.

the fandroids shooting down the usefulness of siri most reminds me of when the ipad rumors were starting. "who needs a giant iphone?", "why would i want a laptop with no keyboard and less functions?", "there isn't a market for tablets, those things will never sell"

and where do ipad sales and the tablet market stand today?

i think voice commands will become more prevalant and more versatile. siri is just one big push in many, many pushes to make that happen.

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 13:27

60. jacko (unregistered)


i dont coz i dont give a s**t about voice commands

when im pressing buttons i know 95% of the time i get what im saying to the other person/s

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 13:34

61. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


@sniggly. We did not say that android's notification was bad or useless at all. Neither did we say that 8mp camera is not nice to have. We said we were satisfied with what we have with our iphones. You android fanboys ATTACK iphone users and Apple for features that we have that you guys haven't implemented yet.

Remember, android fanboys were symbian lovers before adopting android. And you guys mocked the iphone's capacitive touchscreen. You guys mocked the ipad. You guys mocked multitouch, etc. But when android came out, you symbian lovers embraced android which is a rip off of iOS and ate everything negative you said about the iphone :)

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 13:38 2

62. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


@sniggly. Android existed since 2003, but didn't release their phones after the iphone. Why? Because obviously, iphone's OS was developed earlier than android. Sorry sniggly, but the iphone came out first, not any android phone. And Steve was betrayed by Andy. Which is a clear sign that Google did something despicable :)

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 13:43

63. arcq12 (Posts: 733; Member since: 13 Oct 2011)


never heard of an iPhone feature that hasnt been implemented on Android..

but theres a lot of Android features that aren't on iPhone yet.. probably will never be on iPhone..

what do you think ?

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 13:46

64. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


@superandroid. Show us any article where Apple stated that they invented Siri. You android fanboys had to resort to putting words into other people's mouth out of desperation from losing an argument. And you have the nerve to say that we make things up? Read my lips, Apple innovates, they don't invent. And android copies their innovations, just like android will once again copy what Apple has done with Siri. Android is nothing but an iOS rip off that symbian lovers adopted right away :)

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 13:50

65. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


@michael. I'm sure you've read enough android fanboys' comments on here that you should know whether or not iphone users would say anything, they're out to attack us anyway. But I guess the underdogs (android fanboys) always get the sympathy :)

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 13:59

68. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Seriously. There's not a single feature on iPhone that's not on android? Are you forgetting iPhone came out well before android?

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 14:00 1

70. skywalker4711 (Posts: 10; Member since: 21 Oct 2011)


@530gemini - Sigh. You're really quite pathetic. Apple has innovated. Android has innovated. Like someone mentioned earlier... these companies borrow ideas to further progress industry. If you want to be ridiculous about this crap, Apple copied Alexander Graham Bell. And, as for voice integrated applications, applications like Vlingo predate Siri. Please do us all a favor and grow up. Check your facts.

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 14:01

71. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


@arc. The iphone came out in 2007, android phones came out 2008. And you tell me that you've never heard of any iphone feature that's not implemented on android. Well maybe because android is an iOS rip-off :)

The only 2 things I could think of that android supports and Apple does not is BT file transfer and flash, for anti-piracy and OS stability reasons.

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 14:07

73. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


@sky. Apple innovates, android copies whatever Apple does. From the iphone, to the ipad. Simple as that. Learn the differences between innovating and inventing and copying. And yes, there were other voice apps before Siri, just like there were touchscreen phones before the iphone. But Apple always gives it their own twist to make their implementation DIFFERENT from what's already out there, and then android simply copies, like they will with Siri :)

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 14:07

74. arcq12 (Posts: 733; Member since: 13 Oct 2011)


that's not the point taco, all the features that the iPhone had on it's initial release already existed. Matter of fact the iPhone didnt have some features that phones are supposed to have.

and for the record, Android has been under developement way before the iOS has been developed by Apple. Nothing for Android developers to copy at that time.

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 14:15

76. arcq12 (Posts: 733; Member since: 13 Oct 2011)


ohh you wanna start this again? give me a reason why the Android is an iOS rip off? for all i care, iOS is becoming an Android rip off my friend, how's that notification center look like?

things that android supports that apple dont? are you forgetting about 4G? how about widgets? and the list goes on so come on man. stop that bullsh*t and accept the facts.

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 14:17 2

78. skywalker4711 (Posts: 10; Member since: 21 Oct 2011)


There were smartphones before the iPhone.
There were tablets before the iPad.
There was voice apps before Siri.

Your argument is so beyond immature that Android copies Apple. Last I checked, Android OS looks and functions nothing like iOS.

If you could, please name something COMPLETELY UNIQUE to Apple that Android has copied without making a twist to it.

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 14:33 1

82. ayephoner (Posts: 850; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)


arc, please make some attempt to be a bit more obtuse.

android is about offering features, any and all of them regardless of implimentation. such is the nature of open source. its about freedom and some things are not always done well. they take from all sorts of places, including apple. they try to offer everything that has ever been offered by anyone.

iOS is about efficiency and execution. such is a closed system. and they will not budge on any offering if they feel it might sacrifice the system. they also try to offer everything, but only once they feel its polished enough and fits well.

this puts android ahead in feature offerings. this puts iOS ahead in getting more out of less. now, apple's lead there is often see in their profit margin, which seems to bother fandroids much more than the apple customers spending the money.

otherwise, the two systems are not that vastly different and should not result in such die hard allegience from you fandroids. i just dont get it (i dont get the 'isheep' either, but they dont have the same presence here)

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 14:49

84. arcq12 (Posts: 733; Member since: 13 Oct 2011)


not so fast ayephoner, your biased comment doesnt cover you up for your iSheep-ness.

name the 'things that are not always done well' ? coz i cant recall anything like that to be honest with you..

and what do you mean by android offering things not yet offered before? that's what you call innovation and originality.

i know iOS makes things better. but those are stolen ideas. and yet they sue samsung about stealing their ideas? f*ck off...

and talking about sales, we don't have to argue that, ANDROID IS THE BEST SELLING OS IN THE WORLD. That is a fact that everyone in PA knows.

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 14:57 2

85. ilia1986 (unregistered)


Well Android fans - inclusing myself - are deeply dissatisfied with the restrictions Apple poses upon it's products.

But it IS bewildering as of why Apple fans should be dissatisfied with the freedom of Android so deeply.

Android = iOS + more features. That's how I see it. Sure, as you put it, not everything is 100% perfect, but I dare to say - despite never owning an Android phone - that in 9 times out of 10 - everything works out as intended.

And if it doesn't - there are a zillion of custom roms.

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 15:06 1

86. arcq12 (Posts: 733; Member since: 13 Oct 2011)


you nailed it illa1986.

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 15:07 1

87. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4888; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)


530gemini you are so off it's insane. I NEVER said that Apple invented Siri. All I said is that iSheep will CLAIM that Apple invented it. What losing argument? Apple needed to BUY Siri so they can stand a chance in the voice command scope of things. Android is so far ahead of Apple that they needed to buy Siri to finally be on Android's level. Android is not a rip off of iOS since Android was in development first. Apple innovates? Sure if coping other OS's is innovation then sure. Let me guess the Apple notification drop down is innovation right? The notification drop down for iOS5 is on par with Android 1.6. It's still inferior to Android! lol Nice innovation 530gemini! :-)

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 15:14 1

88. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)


Your post is the entire problem with this site. You think that when people make comments about Apple they are "out to attack you".

Are you Apple? Jesus christ. It's a f**king company. Love it as much as you want but you don't have to act like any negative comment or feedback regarding them is a personal attack on you...

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 15:28 1

90. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4888; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)


Why is Siri different? IBM's Watson is DIFFERENT. It can think & actually learn & give you different answers. So Apple technically copied IBM on a pathetic, half hearted level. Too bad for Appleā€™s never releasing half baked products. (Siri is BETA!) What DIFFERENT spin did Apple give? All you do is hold the button & talk. Sweet innovation VERY DIFFERENT Apple spin. lol I think innovation is Google Wallet, NFC chip, a 720p HD Super AMOLED screen, & Android Ice Cream Sandwich, which is optimized for dual-core chipsets. WOW that sounds like the Samsung Galaxy Nexus. The phone itself looks like innovation. Apple's innovations same physical & OS design, 800MHz dual-core, Android's notification drop down, Siri & the constant high price. WOW that sounds like an Apple iPhone 4S. Ohh yeah real innovation! :-)

Sounds like Apple is more like copying instead of innovating.

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 15:30 2

91. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4888; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)


Yeah now because they have Nuance's technology. Without that Apple's voice recognition would still be on a level of a small child!

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 15:33 1

92. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


What is this happy horses**t about us being symbian lovers? I wasn't even aware of Symbian until well after I got into Android.

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 15:51 1

94. ilia1986 (unregistered)


Lucky you, man. I was forced to endure Symbian S60v5 on a RESISTIVE "touch" screen, on a Nokia 5800.

The Horror. The Horror.

Oh God. for some reason I just imagined a horrible combination: iOS + Justin Bieber.

Both must die.

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 16:17

95. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


A lot of the touch gestures were introduced by Apple. They didn't exist before the iPhone

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 16:30

96. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)


lol apple invented the smartphone and tablet lol check fcats please cause there was smartphones and tablets WAY before apple even thought of smartphones...the only thing apple did was simplify and popularize them fact.

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