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Should your phone be a personal assistant?

0. phoneArena 21 Oct 2011, 10:11 posted on

There's been a lot of talk about Siri these days and iPhone's attempt to turn your phone into a personal assistant, but Andy Rubin doesn't believe that's what phones should be for. What do you think?...

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posted on 21 Oct 2011, 12:07

13. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)


Android has been doing this for a while dude just not in the conversation format. Get over yourself.

Apple took what people loved about Android and they improved on it.


PS. When I say "they" obviously I mean the company that actually created the software, not Apple.

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 12:15 1

16. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Did you know iPhone has had voice commands since 2009?

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 12:26 1

25. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


so on your commands you could call numbers outside your directory , set alarms and events, get directions to places, send text messages, do notes to seft and search any content on the web and take dictation?

Like it or not Siri evolved from what android had and added a certain level or artificial intelligence so instead of hearing different tones you would hear a human voice

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 12:34

29. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


It did talk to you, but it was voice commands not natural speech. What android had that iPhone was voice text entry.

Now iPhone has taken back the lead.

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 12:46 1

40. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


the only commands I remember was for music playback and calling on your directory.

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 13:02

48. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


There was more. I could tell it to dial a number by saying the number for example. I could ask it what time it was.

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 13:15

55. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


I could call regular number on prior iOS devices, I could use commands that use simple calculations, but I couldn't have called a number depending on where I was located, or find a restaurant around my zone while I could play the music on my iPhone I just couldn't ask it to go looking for an artist ant play all their songs on my device, you know why Siri needs and internet connection? Same reason Google does.

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 12:41 2

35. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4857; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)


taco50 WILL claim Apple had those features. We all know Android had those features & in 2009 Apple copied them. Now they buy Siri from Nuance & say they invented it. It's the same vicious cycle over & over. iSheep WILL make things up & they will say some bogus stuff. YOU do have a point on all that you stated protozeloz!

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 12:44 1

38. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


I stated a fact Apple has had voice commands for a long time even though android fanboys try to pretend it didn't.


Apple bought Siri. Great did you know google BOUGHT android? What's your point?

Fandroids don't like facts.

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 12:47 4

41. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)


"Android has been doing this for a while dude just not in the conversation format. Get over yourself.

Apple took what people loved about Android and they improved on it.


PS. When I say "they" obviously I mean the company that actually created the software, not Apple."

Where do I say Apple did not have voice commands? You don't even read posts you just have a knee-jerk "THEY MUST BE A FANBOY" response.

I think PhoneArena should have a poll, and it should be whether or not to ban taco50 by ip address (if possible). He is the worst thing that ever happened to this site.

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 12:53 1

45. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4857; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)


I have used every iPhone. The voice commands you talk about are very grade school like. Nothing on like what Android has had. In 2009 Apple had its voice commands on the level of pre-k. Siri is something that is like & on Android's level. To catch up to Android, Apple had to buy Siri. Google bought Android way back when. The smartphone game then was not what it is today.

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 13:03 1

50. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Siri does more than android

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 15:30 2

91. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4857; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)


Yeah now because they have Nuance's technology. Without that Apple's voice recognition would still be on a level of a small child!

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 12:57 3

46. Snapdude (Posts: 128; Member since: 27 Aug 2009)


did you know that my circa 2006 lg flip phone had the exact same voice commands iphone had up until the 4s? voice commands are nothing new, and siri has borught a great new twist on them to the market and android will undoubtedly try to capitalize on it as well, doesnt make either one inferiror to the other. both doing the same thing in different ways

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 13:04

51. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


I realize that. Android fanboys act like google invented voice commands.

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 13:15 2

56. Snapdude (Posts: 128; Member since: 27 Aug 2009)


and iphone fans claim iOS created voice interaction with siri.. the street goes both ways, both OS's have had the basic forms of these features for a long time... they just each decided to develop different things first leaving one to be stronger in one category than the other and vice versa... it is impossible to say one is superior to the other based off a few key fetures

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 13:27

60. jacko (unregistered)


i dont coz i dont give a s**t about voice commands

when im pressing buttons i know 95% of the time i get what im saying to the other person/s

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 13:46

64. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


@superandroid. Show us any article where Apple stated that they invented Siri. You android fanboys had to resort to putting words into other people's mouth out of desperation from losing an argument. And you have the nerve to say that we make things up? Read my lips, Apple innovates, they don't invent. And android copies their innovations, just like android will once again copy what Apple has done with Siri. Android is nothing but an iOS rip off that symbian lovers adopted right away :)

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 14:00 1

70. skywalker4711 (Posts: 10; Member since: 21 Oct 2011)


@530gemini - Sigh. You're really quite pathetic. Apple has innovated. Android has innovated. Like someone mentioned earlier... these companies borrow ideas to further progress industry. If you want to be ridiculous about this crap, Apple copied Alexander Graham Bell. And, as for voice integrated applications, applications like Vlingo predate Siri. Please do us all a favor and grow up. Check your facts.

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 14:07

73. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


@sky. Apple innovates, android copies whatever Apple does. From the iphone, to the ipad. Simple as that. Learn the differences between innovating and inventing and copying. And yes, there were other voice apps before Siri, just like there were touchscreen phones before the iphone. But Apple always gives it their own twist to make their implementation DIFFERENT from what's already out there, and then android simply copies, like they will with Siri :)

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 14:17 2

78. skywalker4711 (Posts: 10; Member since: 21 Oct 2011)


There were smartphones before the iPhone.
There were tablets before the iPad.
There was voice apps before Siri.

Your argument is so beyond immature that Android copies Apple. Last I checked, Android OS looks and functions nothing like iOS.

If you could, please name something COMPLETELY UNIQUE to Apple that Android has copied without making a twist to it.

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 20:14

110. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


@sky. Hello? Android copied the iphone and the ipad :) Go ask the courts. They've banned several android devices already :)

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 15:28 1

90. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4857; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)


Why is Siri different? IBM's Watson is DIFFERENT. It can think & actually learn & give you different answers. So Apple technically copied IBM on a pathetic, half hearted level. Too bad for Appleā€™s never releasing half baked products. (Siri is BETA!) What DIFFERENT spin did Apple give? All you do is hold the button & talk. Sweet innovation VERY DIFFERENT Apple spin. lol I think innovation is Google Wallet, NFC chip, a 720p HD Super AMOLED screen, & Android Ice Cream Sandwich, which is optimized for dual-core chipsets. WOW that sounds like the Samsung Galaxy Nexus. The phone itself looks like innovation. Apple's innovations same physical & OS design, 800MHz dual-core, Android's notification drop down, Siri & the constant high price. WOW that sounds like an Apple iPhone 4S. Ohh yeah real innovation! :-)

Sounds like Apple is more like copying instead of innovating.

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 16:30

96. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)


lol apple invented the smartphone and tablet lol check fcats please cause there was smartphones and tablets WAY before apple even thought of smartphones...the only thing apple did was simplify and popularize them fact.

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 15:07 1

87. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4857; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)


530gemini you are so off it's insane. I NEVER said that Apple invented Siri. All I said is that iSheep will CLAIM that Apple invented it. What losing argument? Apple needed to BUY Siri so they can stand a chance in the voice command scope of things. Android is so far ahead of Apple that they needed to buy Siri to finally be on Android's level. Android is not a rip off of iOS since Android was in development first. Apple innovates? Sure if coping other OS's is innovation then sure. Let me guess the Apple notification drop down is innovation right? The notification drop down for iOS5 is on par with Android 1.6. It's still inferior to Android! lol Nice innovation 530gemini! :-)

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 20:21

111. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


@superandroid. Yes, you didn't say that Apple invented Siri, but you said that Apple claims that they did when they didn't :) And no iphone user have ever claimed that Apple invented Siri either. So yes, you are putting words into other people's mouth, because you have run out of juices. So what if Apple bought Siri. No one is complaining that google bought android :) Siri is not android's level. Android has nothing like Siri, but they are of course in the process of copying it :) And yes, the truth bites that android is an iOS rip-off. The iphone came out in 2007, and android immediately ripped it off in late 2008 :) The iphone's OS have been in development before android existed on this planet. IOS5 drop down notification is much better than android's :) And, that drop down gesture has been a part of iOS api's way back in 2007. So again, android just ripped it off and put it on their notification :)

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 12:37 1

34. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2705; Member since: 26 May 2011)


Was it necessary to have the first paragraph lashing out? Couldn't you just play the game in a civil manner and be a part of the conversation rather than trying to start a fight?

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 12:42

37. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


It's in response to the constant trolling of Apple

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 12:45 4

39. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)


taco you are probably the worst troll on this site. I have almost never seen you give valuable input into a conversation and i've been reading PhoneArena for awhile now.

It's absolutely pathetic, and you need to grow the hell up.

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 13:05

52. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Sorry you don't like facts buddy. Maybe androidcentral will treat you better where you and your buddies can all troll around free from reality

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