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Should your phone be a personal assistant?

0. phoneArena 21 Oct 2011, 10:11 posted on

There's been a lot of talk about Siri these days and iPhone's attempt to turn your phone into a personal assistant, but Andy Rubin doesn't believe that's what phones should be for. What do you think?...

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posted on 21 Oct 2011, 11:33 3

1. Snapdude (Posts: 128; Member since: 27 Aug 2009)


i wont lie, its fun to use.... actual usefulness is minimal IMO outside of normal voice command functions

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 13:23 2

58. ayephoner (Posts: 850; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)


well, a large part of siri is just making said usefulness easier to use and more versatile. you arent as limited in how you speak to your phone and the system is more responsive.

i dont see anything groundbreaking with siri, but i do see a big step forward in the natural progression of voice interaction.

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 13:25 2

59. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


@ayephoner. And that big step forward to the progession of voice interaction would be taken by Google, right? Hahahahahaha

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 14:15 2

77. ayephoner (Posts: 850; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)


of all the idiot fandroid trolling on this site, this is some of the least thought out, stupid i have ever seen.

at least be witty, or have a point of some kind.

hahahahahaha (im not really laughing, just mocking you)

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 14:24 2

79. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


Gemini a fandroid? That's new on my book

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 14:26

80. ayephoner (Posts: 850; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)


i was just trying to post that i missed some sarcasm or something.

that makes twice today. oops. my bad gemini.

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 14:34 1

83. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


She is trying to Say that you consider it not groundbreaking, but a big step and trying to make that a punch line of some sort because she believes it is.

I think siri is a big step, and I look forward smartphones being like the NT warrior series

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 15:16 1

89. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


Siri is evolution of the system. Its not revolution. With or without the sarchastic canned responces, it is a good step forward in "how" we get to communicate with the system as it responds to a more broad array of commands to do the same thing, instead of androids "1 command" for each thing.

As far as a phone that actually "talks back" like real AI, we are probably 20 years from that. Siri is an evolved voice command system with some cheap magic tricks to make people think its "AI".

posted on 22 Oct 2011, 08:16 1

127. andro. (Posts: 1999; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)


cheap tricks which fool islaves but that really doesn't thake much,remember the people and even apple managers in ads for facetime crying because they can see 'my son on the other side of the call"? Millions fell for it

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 18:00 3

100. andro. (Posts: 1999; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)


its fun for the first hour or two but ask any android user who pretty much has been using the exact same as siri just under a different name for the past year or so its something which gets dull and boring quite fast.

Islaves of course just only receiving such tech now rave as if its going to change the world much like they did with facetime last year when most had experienced it in 2005 on cheap Nokia and lg phones etc.

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 20:00 1

106. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


@andro. I don't think anyone expects any android fanboy like you to enjoy Siri, lol. Nothing in android comes close to Siri. There was already a comparison made as to which voice app takes dictation much better. And Siri got 95% right, while android less than 50% right, hahahahaha. And you have the balls to say that android has the same level of tech?

As for facetime. It delivers the best videocall experience. Those cheap nokia phones with videocalling features back in 2005 only has videocalling on paper, but pretty much unusable, hahahahahaha. Except of course nokia lovers, turned android fanboys, like you who probably used videocalling every day on your 2005 nokia device with hd quality video right? Hahahahahaha

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 21:14

115. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


Where you got those numbers from? Where they using the speak settings off? On reviews of it it was compared with android and said to. Be on pair. But hey I don't know why would I argue with you

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 21:29 1

117. ayephoner (Posts: 850; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)


remix, good post (i think we're closer than 20 years though)

i really wish we could have some discussions in the comment sections that didnt turn into polarizing, juvenile, aimless insults.

and saying android has had the same voice control functionality as siri is like saying feature phones had the same voice control as android 8 years ago. (they did have some).

and siri is somewhat revolutionary in that a good deal of the processing is done server side. that is really cool.

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 22:50 1

120. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


I also agree that 20 is a big number, I mean I was expecting superphones by 2020. What I don't agree is with gemini now saying that android will go and copy while apple doesn't.

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 21:59

118. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


I know you might just pull a video or something but I can also post this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPdZgt2O2ks

this guy also agreed that Google only made a small mistake

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqkBJV0-4jA&feature=related

basically the only difference is on the information siri manages and how is tweaked to understand various words instead of one command, I has access to more of your content and interact with you, also is good to say that Google also has better support for non English languages and other countries where siri can do little yet, also with the new continuous dictation expect Google's accuracy to go even further, Google mainly focused on making the voice recognition work before adding the fancy stuff in

posted on 22 Oct 2011, 08:13

126. andro. (Posts: 1999; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)


mmmmm thats a good islave let the apple pr setting deep in your brain,siri is revolutionary....wow its cool.....you love it......your friends will envy you.....you want to spend all your money on it....theres nothing ever been available like this before......mmmmmmnot last year on android......mmmmm no don't believe them.....facetime is the best.......you can cry when you see your friend on the other side.....


You obviously werent using video calling in 2005 or else had a crappy network with poor 3g as it was quite revolutionary at the time but wore thin fast,facetime of course meant that never happended and apple changed historys timeline again again

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 13:59 1

69. Phullofphil (Posts: 801; Member since: 10 Feb 2009)


i just want to say one thing. voice actions was here befor iris and and is an ad on to googles voice systems and it pretty much does what seri does although its not tied into the machin so tight. every one with android try it its free. and 4 bucks for apple probably cause it hase to use googles voice tech. any way get into a quit place and you can have a conversasion with her if you tr you can ovously make her seem not so smart. but itdoes alot. i really dont likeany of that unless its a gimic but i hate that that app is never menrioned

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 18:00 2

99. andro. (Posts: 1999; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)


agreed,its fun for the first hour or two but ask any android user who pretty much has been using the exact same as siri just under a different name for the past year or so its something which gets dull and boring quite fast.

Islaves of course just only receiving such tech now rave as if its going to change the world much like they did with facetime last year when most had experienced it in 2005 on cheap Nokia and lg phones etc.

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 20:01

107. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


@andro. I don't think anyone expects any android fanboy like you to enjoy Siri, lol. Nothing in android comes close to Siri. There was already a comparison made as to which voice app takes dictation much better. And Siri got 95% right, while android less than 50% right, hahahahaha. And you have the balls to say that android has the same level of tech?

As for facetime. It delivers the best videocall experience. Those cheap nokia phones with videocalling features back in 2005 only has videocalling on paper, but pretty much unusable, hahahahahaha. Except of course nokia lovers, turned android fanboys, like you who probably used videocalling every day on your 2005 nokia device with hd quality video right? Hahahahahaha

posted on 22 Oct 2011, 00:45

122. shafboy (Posts: 179; Member since: 26 Sep 2010)


I think that the competition should just accept it and move on, it is good, develop better and learn from them.

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 11:34 2

2. arcq12 (Posts: 733; Member since: 13 Oct 2011)


Siri is a good addition but it's not necessary or important. Too bad it's no longer available in the AppStore..

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 11:34 1

3. android_hitman (unregistered)


where's the poll?

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 11:41 1

7. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2705; Member since: 26 May 2011)


Sorry, technical difficulties with the poll. Just gonna have to be a sound off in the comments type of deal.

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 19:10 1

104. iosmaster (Posts: 115; Member since: 06 Jul 2011)


remember to add; its a beta, sorry for her but she just hasnt recive its assistant degree just yet C=

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 11:36 3

4. DJLegacy2k5 (Posts: 212; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


Who wants to have a convo with their phone? Commands and show of success is all that is needed. Who needs to tell their voice command program to sing them a song, or get a witty response when you tell it youre drunk, or tell it you love it. Pretty soon kids wont need friends they can buy an Ipad and have a virtual friend Siri that talks to them...pretty worthless if you ask me.

I wish my phone was my friend (rolls eyes)

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 11:39 4

5. Alantef (Posts: 288; Member since: 14 Sep 2011)


6 months people are going to forget this is on their phones

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 12:01

10. pourguoin (Posts: 5; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


totally

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 18:05 1

102. andro. (Posts: 1999; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)


no 6 hours later most will,but still claim apple changed everything with it no matter how much android has had it over a year ago!

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 11:41 7

6. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)


I don't think your phone needs to be a personal assistant, but I do like the fact that Siri follows what you're saying as if you are having a conversation with it.

I see no benefit from (as mentioned above):

Me: "Siri, i'm drunk."
Siri: "Sounds like fun! I'll call you a cab."

What I DO see a (significant) benefit from is:

Me: "Siri, do I have any appointments tomorrow at 2PM?"
Siri: "No."
Me: "Make an appointment with XXX for half an hour and send them an email to confirm."

Maybe i'm a rare one but I actually use the voice features on my Thunderbolt on a daily basis, whether it's just as i'm walking from one end of the office to the other shooting a text message to someone or i'm using it for navigation... I absolutely love it.

It's worth noting that I don't even know if Siri can do what I mentioned above but that is the type of thing I would like to see.

posted on 21 Oct 2011, 11:50

8. arcq12 (Posts: 733; Member since: 13 Oct 2011)


haha very clever of you..

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