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Should Verizon, Sprint and AT&T be afraid of T-Mobile?

0. phoneArena 26 Oct 2013, 10:55 posted on

With a number of industry leading innovations, T-Mobile has not only become the carrier to watch in the U.S., it is actually taking market share away from the other three major stateside operators; according to the average estimate from seven analysts, T-Mobile will report the addition of 444,000 net new subscribers in their next earnings report due to be released November 5th...

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posted on 26 Oct 2013, 12:10 1

18. dragon76 (Posts: 15; Member since: 24 Jun 2012)

I have had T-Mobile in the past, coverage in my area is very good but it is only on the EDGE network slower then dial up 2G within 30+ radius. I know that there customer support was top notch. I know if they had a better network in my area I would switch back to them fairly quick.

Edit My friend and his wife have T-Mobile in my area (2G) one has GS2 and the other the GS4 it pains me to see them with smart phones on a dummy network.

posted on 26 Oct 2013, 12:34

20. kindlefireowner (Posts: 503; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)

I love Tmobile's plans and phones. But I had T-Mobile in a different state a few years back, the coverage was horrible. Where I live now, T-Mobile coverage is worst. Not worth the hassle.

posted on 26 Oct 2013, 12:45 2

23. freemarketeer (Posts: 28; Member since: 05 Jun 2010)

A couple important items to point out when comparing wireless carriers and quarterly results. First off is the difference between subscriber additions and profitability. While T-Mobile has been adding subscribers, the real question is how much it cost to obtain those subscribers and how profitable they are. T-Mobile could theoretically give their service away and take a huge share of subscribers but as the old saying goes, losses are not made up in volume. I know some of you view "profit" in a bad light but profits are what allow a wireless carrier to reinvest and upgrade things like their networks and future services. This is the reason that Verizon for instance has such a lead on their competitors when it comes to network coverage and technology. T-Mobile (and Sprint) are in the predicament where they don't have the networks to justify a higher price but also won't have the capital to build those better networks without doing so.

At the end of the day, it really comes down to the axiom, "Price is what you pay; Value is what you get".

posted on 26 Oct 2013, 13:31

28. scsa852k (Posts: 329; Member since: 16 Oct 2012)

The reality before this Uncarrier approach from T-Mobile was that people living in area well covered by T-Mo towers were still choosing AT&T and Verizon over T-Mobile.

Now, this Uncarrier approach is obviously attracting those customers away from AT&T and Verizon. Meanwhile, T-Mobile is doing a rapid expansion of their LTE and AWS networks and yes, it will take some time to improved and play catch-up, but it is improving.

It will take more effort and money for T-Mobile to ever consider becoming #1 carrier in US, but it won't take very long before they take over Sprint as a distant #3.

posted on 26 Oct 2013, 13:43

30. xtroid2k (Posts: 517; Member since: 11 Jan 2010)

I would say low income and urban customers are all over t-mobile. I have metro and am moving to tmo next year. I had vzw, att, and sprint. honestly what I am going to do is get a prepaid vzw flip phone and have it on me for when I need to make those calls. all I need is the network. then my reg will be tmo. problem solved. ill still be saving money. lol

posted on 26 Oct 2013, 14:03 2

32. 14545 (Posts: 1537; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)

No, what you should do, and what I am considering, is get a sim switcher, and an ATT prepaid sim, with your Tmo sim, and then just use your att prepaid when you need coverage that Tmo doesn't offer.

posted on 26 Oct 2013, 22:13

62. xtroid2k (Posts: 517; Member since: 11 Jan 2010)

wow I didn't even think of an idea like that. wow. cool thanks. I wish there were more people on this site with real comments as opposed to trolls. when you say sim switcher. are you saying get a dual sim phobe physical swap.

posted on 27 Oct 2013, 02:21

67. johnbftl (Posts: 281; Member since: 09 Jun 2012)

You already are a T-Mobile customer. Metro is T-Mobile.

posted on 26 Oct 2013, 15:26

43. hellonerds (Posts: 314; Member since: 27 Aug 2013)

have t-mo note 3 on att network... next year my att contract ends and i pay 80$ for unlimited data aka 5GB then slowed down i seem to eat up more data now that i have a note 3 lol but still around 4GB + of use a month.. with my ATT plan 80$ 5GB unlimited/200msg text / 450mins/5000 weekend mins.. ill save 10$ a month when i go back to t-mo... i could careless about my grandfather unlimited data on att when i had my iphone.. that the reason why i was still with att but now t-mo is making me go back..

posted on 26 Oct 2013, 15:28

45. Djthunderballs (Posts: 16; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)

No, AT&T and Verizon shouldn't be scared at all. T-Mobile, as well as it's doing recently, is a phone company only. The BIG 2 have much more product offerings for the home and not to mention business. Good luck catching up T-Mob!

posted on 26 Oct 2013, 15:45

46. lsutigers (Posts: 820; Member since: 08 Mar 2009)

The problem is aside from enterprise wireline which only AT&T, Sprint and Verizon are involved, residential/consumer wireline services are basically dead and represent big losses for the big 2, which is why Sprint got out of it several years ago.

Look at Verizon Fios, they stopped expanding due to the huge capital expenditure to ROI ratio. Wireless is the future, which is why no carrier is investing in wireline, except global fiber backbones but that only applies to the big 3, not TMO.

posted on 26 Oct 2013, 16:33

49. Ravail (Posts: 182; Member since: 14 Oct 2011)

AT&T and Verizon might take notice if T-Mobile actually develops a better network. They have good business ideas and are implementing them with force, however that means nothing if they don't have good service to keep their customers. Sprint is slowly dying and they are definitely scared. I'm personally still on AT&T because they have the best service with where I live and the best phone selection in my opinion.

posted on 26 Oct 2013, 17:05

52. DanielWalsh1294 (Posts: 18; Member since: 08 Oct 2013)

They should be afraid. T-Mobile is awesome and CHEAP!

posted on 26 Oct 2013, 17:18 1

53. Adrian38 (Posts: 142; Member since: 05 Nov 2012)

I think once T-Mobile grows their network more and has much better coverage, THEN AT&T and Verizon should be worried. For now, they have nothing to worry about.

posted on 26 Oct 2013, 18:05

55. danwatson (Posts: 117; Member since: 03 Jan 2012)

If they had better service in my area, I'd be all over it. I'm looking at switching from Sprint to Verizon just because of the service. I'm not a Verizon fan but there is a ton of RED on the map where I live and LTE is live as well. Sprint & Tmobile don't have LTE yet in my area.

posted on 26 Oct 2013, 22:00

61. Jeradiah3 (Posts: 1032; Member since: 11 Feb 2010)

Tmobile is making great strides, but I dont trust their coverage (here in St. Louis) enough to make a change. In my opinion, Tmobile has the weakest coverage in St. Louis and Im not leaving AT&T for that

posted on 27 Oct 2013, 02:35

68. johnbftl (Posts: 281; Member since: 09 Jun 2012)

Bottom line is there are about 340 million people in the United States. Verizon and AT&T together hold 225 million of those. Verizon has 118 million and AT&T has 107. Sprint holds 65 million. That does not leave room for T-Mobile (44 million) to take over either of the big two.

posted on 27 Oct 2013, 09:40

72. m1chaelson (Posts: 1; Member since: 27 Oct 2013)

AT&T and Verizon are quasi-government. They aren't worried about T-Mobile. AT&T is probably hurt that the 3 bil they had to pay t-Mobile is now being used to take their subscribers. I smile when people think t-mobile's current system is new. What they are not telling their customers is that they are slowly but surely turning the company into Metro PCS, the no contract carrier that everyone thinks is sub par, but Tmobile merged with them and is using their system to finance phones that causes the customers to spend more money on the back end... Sprint is the odd carrier out... If you're on the east coast, go Verizon. South and southwest is ATT. Midwest is split half Sprint/TMo. West coast is any carrier that's GSM... Also no is speaking about AIO wireless which is AT&T's version of Metro PCS/T-Mobile. #Fineprint...

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