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Should Nokia switch to Android?

0. phoneArena 24 Jan 2013, 10:18 posted on

Hooray, Nokia is profitable again! After a long and painful internal transitional period, the ex-largest cell phone manufacturer has finally swung back to profitability during the beloved holiday season (Q4). Understandably, the profit isn't that big - it's $585 million, but at least it's a start...

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posted on 25 Jan 2013, 10:44

256. gazmatic (Posts: 659; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)

google doesnt have the policies i buy nokias for


that is nokias policy...

google barely allows caching...

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 11:25

258. Dinged (Posts: 14; Member since: 12 Jan 2012)

There is an absolute niche in the smartphone market for Nokia with android. As of now, Apple is the only phone with great euro design (considered by many) - hipster feel without feeling cheap. By design, I mean a look that is capable of communicating a "lifestyle" different than others - similar to automotive. A design that can spark an emotional response from buyers based on looks alone, not tech specs.

If you compare brands, the asian brands all have a similar look and style (LG, Samsung, HTC, Sony) with smooth curves and often polycarbonate materials; the asian brands communicate practical, value, safe, boring even. On the other hand, USA Motorola phones look square with sharp edges and a more industrial look; they look like they're from the Matrix communicating nerdy, bomb proof, masculinity. In contrast Nokia is the only other manufacturer besides Apple that makes phones that are designed with the same "hipster/euro" like design as apple products; the design communicates hip, fun, easy.

As for the engineering and integration part of the equation that people keep mentioning in the comments...that's the easy part since all phone manufacturers have proven that they can hire engineers and put out a functioning phone together with great hardware specs. It's a lot harder to create a culture in a company that can integrate great art/aesthetic design and technical engineering together since most manufacturers focus on margins/costs instead of aesthetics(subjective since it can't be measured in metrics against profit). You have a bunch of engineers and business men making decisions, but no artists or designers with great "taste" that resonate with the masses.

In asian culture, artists/designers aren't valued as highly as a career as in other parts of the world; hence, why most asian firms don't create product with great design. (for those who think I'm racist, I'm asian and asian parents don't typically want their kids to be "artists" think "lawyers, doctors, engineers" FYI). A company in a culture that doesn't value design isn't going to pay the salaries for great designers nor will they want to deal with design obstacles in manufacturing.

If Nokia offers a pure android experience (since they're custom software solutions haven't been proven successfully), they'd have a great product that typical iphone buyers would flock to based on pure aesthetics alone. That's a win with consumers as we see "aesthetic design" in product to be increasingly more important to consumers.

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 12:51 1

260. gammaSharma (Posts: 33; Member since: 17 Nov 2011)

Nokia had the Best in the Hard-Ware dept. and its the Windows platform that's ruining its growth. The only reason Samsung is on top is coz nokia is out with a flu named Microsoft Window.

Samsung and HTC produces Windows phone. They don't sell too. :)

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 16:30

262. airisoverrated (Posts: 30; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)

Nokia does not have much of a reason to go to android at this point, at least not exclusively. That ship sailed, and despite the stock tumble that followed I think it was the right choice. Android itself does not make a device a seller. Look at the problems HTC has had trying to compete with Samsung the past year or more. With Windoes Phone 8 Nokia has the flagship device, and Samsung's entry just isn't as attractive or attention getting.

Lots of people hate on WP8 right now for one reason or another, usually for not being an iPhone or Galaxy III. I sold phones when the G1 was first release and I can tell you it had way worse problems with adoption back then. WP8 has come further faster than either iOS or Android did in their feature sets, and won't be playing catch up on much for long (other than the sheer number of apps available). It took the Droid (and incessant marketing) to make it popular with Android 2.0 to get some market penetration. All it'll take for WP8 to get rolling is that one have to get model. Lumia 920 with Pureview and some color (in a smartphone world of black, white, and shades of grey, color itself becomes a feature). I will not be surprised if at some point this year a WP8 model comes along that people have to have.

Also I think this article is a bit harsh on WP8's personalization. I get that it's not android with widgets galore that all look different have have a dozen skins each. And I agree there's room for more growth there. WP8 takes a different approach to personalization through it's links to social networks and Xbox. Link it to your facebook, xbox, twitter, and other accounts and it customizes a few live tiles based on photos and info from them automatically. Heck all you can do on iOS is make folders and add a background, so it's more than that. That's all Microsoft's play is really, more integration and customization than iOS, without being confusing (hardcore android customization can get heavy with so many options, skins, widgets, different launchers, advanced features, etc).

Microsoft problem is the sales staff at phone stores. They usually push for the easy Android/iOS sale because they own them and know the pitch, or the customers recognize the phones. They often aren't going to take time to educate a customer on something new . Microsoft needs reps out in the field training store employees and getting them to be confident that it's an easy sale. Then you might actually hear an employee say "Looking at phones? Have you seen this awesome new Windows Phone?" Until then most of whats sold will be people walking in the store already knowing they want a particular WP8 model.

posted on 26 Jan 2013, 00:15

266. AaronBenjamin (Posts: 4; Member since: 26 Jan 2013)

I'm neutral about it. However I loved the Nokia N9 so much but I wasn't that interested once I found out it was MeeGo-based. Someone told me I could switch it to Andriod but it will have lagging problems, so no thank you.

Anyway I'm so into Sony right now so it does not really matter. However IF Nokia comes up with an Andriod Nokia N9 I will be one of the first ones to get it!

posted on 26 Jan 2013, 06:01

271. RohanM (Posts: 136; Member since: 15 Jan 2013)

plz nokia i want a lumia droid.....

posted on 26 Jan 2013, 13:07

272. Androidaholic (Posts: 4; Member since: 10 Jun 2012)

They should make both Android and Windows Phone handsets not just switch to one or the other that is retarded. All of the other top manufacturers make both so why should Nokia be any different !

posted on 26 Jan 2013, 18:53 2

273. x88yunkw (Posts: 101; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)

13mp carl zeiss pureview + android 4.2 + clearblack + 3500mAh + 5" + aluminium body +

posted on 27 Jan 2013, 06:21 1

274. Christian831 (Posts: 1; Member since: 27 Jan 2013)

I will stand in line for your First Android Flip Phone 4 core, Single or Dual Screen. Never a pocket Dial. Promise and I have Friends, C'mon Nokia: goaroundthemovie.com

posted on 27 Jan 2013, 14:05

275. qazwsx (Posts: 21; Member since: 23 Dec 2012)

I prefer Android, however there should not be a switch. If there was no competition, we all know Android would not be half as good as it is today. Competition Is a great thing. And if it brings us the consumers the very best, why not support it? :)

posted on 28 Jan 2013, 06:13

276. psyfonik (Posts: 1; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)

another article of how bad an OS that lacks android features is... phandroids evrywhere, in my opinion personalising is'nt about changing a wallpaper, thnks to windows phone they've brought that to new heights..

posted on 28 Jan 2013, 08:35

277. 7thspaceman (Posts: 1355; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)

I like Nokia and have always felt that Nokia should have sold Windows and Android smart phones. just like HTC and Samsung does. It appears however that Nokia could not afford to make both smart phones and chose to make Windows smart phones because Nokia
wanted to make a unique smart phone. Everybody was selling Android smart phones so if they made Android smart phones they would be competing with everybody and would sell less smart phones. I am a windows smart phone Fan and will buy Nokia Windows ssmart phones and will benefit from it. Windows smart phones have the most powerful OS now because Windows phone 8 uses the world renown "NT" kernel. Windows 7 uses the NT kernel. Apps makers can really make some outstanding apps for Windows Phone 8
because of this New NT Kernel.

posted on 29 Jan 2013, 05:24

278. shahab75 (Posts: 1; Member since: 29 Jan 2013)

I think Nokia could build for himself a new operating system that takes into consideration the whole world.

posted on 31 Jan 2013, 11:48 1

279. Jsiddle2010 (Posts: 1; Member since: 31 Jan 2013)

This article is such a crock its not even funny... You really had to attack the fact we cant put a wallpaper behind our live tiles? like you would even be able to see much of it...

My Lumia 920 is a beast. i dont need little icons with a glittery shiney wallpaper poking through... my phone is a tool, therefore all the information im shown on my live tiles allows me to see whats going on without having to click anything.

Because of said lack of wallpapers(and other reasons of course, like certified apps), my lumia 900 (single core last gen) DESTROYS samsung galaxy s3 phones in start up boots, or normal operating procedures...

you keep you shiny wallpapers, kid created apps, and all that garbage... I'll keep one of the fastest, more reliable phones out there

posted on 31 Jan 2013, 23:24 1

280. Aishwary (Posts: 1; Member since: 15 Jan 2013)

I will say no.Windows is making NOKIA different from SAMSUNG android phones and making it stand along with competing SAMSUNG , SONY , HTC mobile phones. Windows is providing fresh experience to its users and it is just only a start like android cupcake or gingerbread and will improve more rapidly . So we give chance to it

posted on 31 Jan 2013, 23:28

281. nkokhelox (Posts: 2; Member since: 31 Jan 2013)

definately yes i'd like nokia with android os so i thnk nokia would increase their profit if they change 2 android Os. If possibly they could give us customers a choice by releasing both WP and Android

posted on 01 Feb 2013, 00:01

283. nkokhelox (Posts: 2; Member since: 31 Jan 2013)

nokia should support everyone including us kids who hv interest in android features while in love with Nokia handsets so they could releasw both Os if they can. I love nokia and i also love android.

Or alternatively they could release phones with base os (saying their symbian for instance ) that will allow user to choose os between android nd wp to install over that base os

posted on 01 Feb 2013, 06:29 1

284. lubba (Posts: 1313; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)

Folks, just leave Nokia alone. They're doing good right now. Don't let your Android lust f**k it up. Shoo! Go buy yourselves an LG nexus 4 and don't come back.

posted on 06 Feb 2013, 10:24

286. joesseth (Posts: 61; Member since: 18 Dec 2012)

Nokia is windows, that's what I know... why android?

posted on 10 Feb 2013, 12:16

288. noseyturtle (Posts: 1; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)

Nokia is the top dog in the WP8 arena. They are making good profit and gaining great publicity. In the Android arena they would be lost. They would not be able to compete with the likes of Samsung and they would not stand out. Android is saturated,with manufacturers all trying to outdo each other in the specs department and now we have the Chinese joining the party with big specs and low costs. Nokia have made the right decision to go with WP8

posted on 13 Feb 2013, 16:37

289. jbreault (Posts: 25; Member since: 04 Mar 2012)

no stay with windows i think windows could come alive if they just get some real people working on the OS . And the tiles are not very good but that's just me and i don't like window 8 ether and i love window 7 i think were they going wrong is they want to be all things to ever one also to tie ever thing together nice and neat

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