Should Nokia switch to Android?
0. phoneArena 24 Jan 2013, 10:18 posted on
Hooray, Nokia is profitable again! After a long and painful internal transitional period, the ex-largest cell phone manufacturer has finally swung back to profitability during the beloved holiday season (Q4). Understandably, the profit isn't that big - it's $585 million, but at least it's a start...
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31. speckledapple (Posts: 892; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)
I disagree. Though those companies are doing that, they both are strongly in the Android camp and make many of their changes in that ecosystem. As WP gains more momentum, they will begin to give even more support but they are more focused now on Android. Nokia I think should focus on WP and not develop for Android. WP is a much better fit for them.
18. CorianU (Posts: 27; Member since: 22 Jan 2013)
They don't need to switch over. Their profits are once again rising and they're selling more Windows phones. Why tamper with success?
19. Mozarrt (Posts: 301; Member since: 08 Oct 2011)
A continued focus on Windows Phone, but they can always release an Android handset to check if their is any demand.
22. windroid (unregistered)
Just let me tell the questions in the poll are just stupid. They make an assumption in the form of a question, completely wrong, this is bad journalism!
If it's stated:
- "Absolutely, Android will always be better than Windows Phone."
It should also be:
- "Nope, Windows Phone will always be better than Android."
Or just let:
- Don't know
27. GJanee (Posts: 214; Member since: 29 Jun 2011)
Thank you. This is exactly what I was about to say.
71. snowgator (Posts: 3556; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
Amen and Amen. From the write-up where Ray S slams what he sees as a negative (strictly his opinion) to attributing Nokia and its WP8 initial success to the hardware of it's offering not the appeal is the software to the wording of the choices, this is a bigoted mess. I think Android is a monster OS and love what it offers, but WP is extremely personable. It is improving, it is stable, and a it's sales are trending up slowly but steady. Nokia is the premier WP manufacturer in a developing OS. They stand a decent chance of being the last man standing with WP, giving them a replacement for Symbian and MeeGo at a fraction of the R&D.
Idiotic to debate walking away right now.
26. speckledapple (Posts: 892; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)
I think they should NOT switch to Android. I think WinPhone is awesome and they should continue making the beautiful phones with it. Android can stand on its own with all the partners that are already using it and the awesome set of phones coming out of it. WP needs its own champion and Nokia is it.
28. bragzter (Posts: 52; Member since: 21 Feb 2012)
Nokia shouldn't have put all its eggs in Microsoft's basket. They can keep doing their Windows Phone things and offer a few Android devices too. Also, they should have never dropped MeeGo. The UI is unique, nobody else did before Jolla and RIM.
32. gameday78 (Posts: 48; Member since: 17 Mar 2012)
Sadly I think it might be too late for NOKIA....
55. windroid (unregistered)
To late when they start making money? That's strange...
34. AfterShock (Posts: 3698; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)
Ruin off Elop, then use both Os, WP and Android.
36. Whateverman (Posts: 3250; Member since: 17 May 2009)
There are too many loyal Nokia fans and loyal Android fans for this to be a bad idea. A pure Android experience on a Nokia device would be an instant hit, no need to skin it or anything just yet. But I would love to see a range of devices coming from Nokias from low end, mid-range, to high end, with both Windows and Android.
53. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
but what people forget is unlike samsung who dominate android and on the side make wp8 devices nokia have pretty much had to get there foot in the door with new os
and there in no position to branch out. if people on here really want nokia around they shouldnt be crying about android all the damn time
instead nokia should focus on been the dominate player in wp8 and then in a few years when there the household name for windows and known again for there quality look into another os
remember people on here are the general public, most of the general public have forgotten all about nokia. so a nokia android right now would crash and burn. lets not forget most android fans say they would buy it but fatc would be they would rather slate it and go samsung
so yeah nokia should wait a few years until there the big name they used to be with wp8 and then if they decide to bring there quality to android the general public will recognise the nokia name thanks to there efforts in wp8
64. Whateverman (Posts: 3250; Member since: 17 May 2009)
As a VZW customer I haven't seen a "real" Nokia device in several years because Nokia focused more on GSM. But 7 years later, I and many others still remember our old high quality Nokias from our old carriers, so I can't agree with that.
It seems to me, the only people crying are the people who hate Android for whatever reason. They whine all the time about what we want and never have any reasonable argument as to why Nokia shouldn't have multiple platforms. It's okay to say Nokia shouldn't go to Android, but why insult the people who do? Android haters are acting like jealous boyfriends trying to keep Nokia away from other guys, brothers, fathers, male cousins and pastors, etc... Nokia is not your girlfriend.
117. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
''It seems to me, the only people crying are the people who hate Android for whatever reason''
again seeing only from one side yet so many nokia articles on here show android fans putting the same crap time and time again. ofcourse you dont see this as whinning but if say a apple fan said similar he would be classed as a troll
''Nokia is not your girlfriend.''
because i said it was right no i just stated how whinny android fans are and that nokia are better off sticking to one os until there back to the powerhouse they once were. its easy for samsung to dip into wp8 as they dominate android but as of now nokia needs to dominate an os and wp8 is prime choice and the right choice
but mostly and ive told you this before yet you dont seem to be able to understand, i dont hate android i use android but i wont be like you lot who think its perfect and praise it all the damn time and hold it up as the only way nokia can survive.............its not the only way
121. Whateverman (Posts: 3250; Member since: 17 May 2009)
Yet when we praise other OSs, that goes widely unnoticed. Everyone here was positive about Nokia doing both and there was no bashing of WP by any Android user until the haters started throwing stones. No one said Android was perfect, but why do we have to be negative toward our OS to satisfy the Android haters? Haters need to learn how to cope with their own insecurity issues and not expect other users to bow down to the alter of Android, iOS, WP, BB, WebOS or whatever. Me liking my OS doesn't mean I hate yours, and wanting a favorite OEM to use my favorite OS isn't whining...unless you are a hater. Then everything sounds like whining to you.
Finally, why you mad bro? I was talking about the haters. If that's not you, then you shouldn't be getting so upset. You don't know me well enough to know what I'm thinking, so to say I think Android is perfect and your opinion of what i do or dont understand is laughable. But tell yourself whatever you need to keep that inferiority complex at bay. :D
142. papss (unregistered)
Works both ways bud.. The difference is that you are too blind to see it
164. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
well i can show you how blind and one sided you are right now
look at that '' GENERAL-BAKSHE'' comments and look how you havent said a word to him. yet there was one android user on a differant article called an idiot and you were been a do gooder saying theres no need
why arent you saying the same to this one then? we know he's just ''troll' with a differant account
but point stands you only see it one way against android and its wrong. whatever you wanna make up and say about me least i go at all fanboys
179. Whateverman (Posts: 3250; Member since: 17 May 2009)
Now let me show you how silly you are being...
My last comment was around the same time as GENERAL-BAKSHE's first comment. This was around the time I left to run a few errands. I came home, checked the site, and the first thing I did was respond to a reply from papss, because there is this little red one that popped up in the top right corner. Now once I started reading what he said, I instantly reported him because its obvious he isn't one that will listen to reason. Next came your comment, trying to blast me for a comment I read... LITERALLY ...one minute before I read yours.
Now, if you follow the timeline, you'll see I'm telling the truth. But again, your starting to look as irrational as the guy I'm supposed to be scolding for you.
187. papss (unregistered)
I'm not one to listen to reason lol right.. All the posters on here and I'm the one.. Okay bro.. Just lol.. Scold me please
189. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
no i think he means he only scolds those that say anything not 100% android supporting....i.e. me lol
he only as he puts it ''scolds' me but lets ones like that general troll guy slide as he's in favor of android
176. papss (unregistered)
I'm referring to the 3 sides that all bash each other and not just WP people..
182. Whateverman (Posts: 3250; Member since: 17 May 2009)
Yes, you do have a point. It's ALL sides, and it really needs to stop. You have every right to like, what you like and want, whatever you want without some one going " xxOS FTW" all the time. There is very little intelligent conversations here anymore, when it use to be where we could just share our thoughts and people either agreed or disagreed without serious confrontation. Would be nice to see that again...
188. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
yet you do what you say needs to stop
sorry but its one thing to say this and another to back it up.
and yes i did thumb your comment up as i agree with the basis of it just the fact you only point out one side is annoying
194. Whateverman (Posts: 3250; Member since: 17 May 2009)
Not true. This is the side iOS users decided I should be on. I'm not going to monitor all of PA and fight with every person here that acts like a jerk, I'd never get anything else done.
Be honest, with the incident yesterday, you assumed I was yet another "Fandroid" as some like to say, picking a fight with some WP users. But if you re read the comments made to a guy who was being polite to everyone, just getting attack for no reason. The real chaoticrazor will see, I made no mention of any OS. I wanted to know why good people were being attacked for no reason. He was being called an idiot for absolutely no reason at all, I didnt care what OS he was using.
Dude, you are seriously barking up the wrong tree here. I don't dislike iOS or it's users, because i am one. I dislike jerks and when people act like jerks, I try to politely point it out to them. Now, I can't do that with EVERYBODY, that's what guys like you are supposed to be there for. I pass on horrible comment from every OS fan all the time because if I get consumed with fighting every flame war, I'd go crazy. It called picking your battles, and my friend you have to start doing the same.
And for the record, even though I don't agree with you most of the time, I thumbed you up more time than you know simply because you were taking it to the jerk. Go back to doing that, because you and I fighting are like the Superman and Batman going at it, when Bain and Bizzaro are on the lose. (and yes, I am Superman. Lol). Let's cal a truce here, because we really are on the same side here.
201. papss (unregistered)
Does anyone know how to add phones to your lists? I don't know if its my iPad that is being dumb or me just being brain dead
224. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 3610; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)
Lol, you're in the wrong thread...haha.
Well, if you're talking about adding it in your "have it, own in and want it" list, click the phones section, search for the phone or tablet you want and you'll know what to do.
37. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)
Please nokia would be the only android phone ill buy!
40. erdpov (Posts: 67; Member since: 07 Dec 2012)
Fire this guy I mean Elop. His will to keep the only one platform doesn't make any sense. He is in charge of Nokia's problems. His unpopular decisions such as dropping burning platform are silly. Fire him and hire another intelligent guy.
43. techspace (Posts: 1036; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)
they could have done that 2 years back, it would have been a great decision........but today, its better to proceed in the direction that they have chosen.....they have taken all the pain over the past two years and things are getting better...they are also working very hard to bring bigger and better cameras to the lumia series phones, if they switch to android, they have to start from the beginning....
and making phones with android doesn't guarantee success in the market.....companies like sony,motorola, lg are not making any profits from android........
MS supports nokia and nokia should work hard and continue to the dominate wp market instead of starting as an underdog,with android.
57. Whateverman (Posts: 3250; Member since: 17 May 2009)
I agree with most of what you're saying, but Motorola, LG, and Sony had issues even before going to Android that they have never addressed. If you think about the last few feature phones these guys made before going to Android, they were all nice looking devices that had horrible functionality and poor reliability, as any VZW customer who has ever owned a Motorola Razr V3, Rokr, Krazr, LG Cosmos, Env 2 and 3... the list goes on. But Samsung really did a 180 with their feature phones before going Android, and I think that effort translated over into their smartphones as well. So I don't think the failure of these OEMs are a true indicator of what would happen with Nokia, but who knows?
69. threed61 (Posts: 192; Member since: 27 May 2011)
HTC made the first Android phone, and has turned out excellent Android phones, and has been steadily declining in sales and profits too. I think the future of Android will be Samsung and the low cost Chinese companies.
Android would look very nice indeed on Nokia hardware but I don't think they can compete against the above mentioned players.
73. techspace (Posts: 1036; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)
samsung's success is the main reason why nokia should not think of android
and nokia doesn't have any new technology that is optimized for android....even sony has good looking phones with great cameras, but that wasn't enough and there is a lot of competition in android.....samsung galaxy devices have very good features and the nexus devices are very cheap, and the other oems are making water proof, dust proof phones.......nokia will require a long time to evolve and before they make a very good android phone, the others will be making flexible phones, smart glasses, smart watches with android.
and another important thing to consider is that they will not have major patent wars with Apple as long as they are on wp, Apple has licensed design patents to MS,making the lumia devices patent free.....they will also lose financial support from MS if they switch to android
had they started two years back, they would have had enough time to deal with all these things, but now it's too late....they can make a lot of money with wp
77. techspace (Posts: 1036; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)
Elop has always said that android is fragmented, wild, complicated, unsafe etc etc he has tried his best to show that android is bad... so,making an android phone doesn't make sense....... as i said before, its just too late
44. oldmandaddy (Posts: 64; Member since: 01 May 2010)
It is so funny after read all this comments. When android fans comment on iOS ,a worthless iPhone . Finally now the truth Android fans user comment on Android are craps.p
50. Ambrose99 (Posts: 1; Member since: 24 Jan 2013)
No. No. & No. Nokia is doing great things with Windows Phone and turning it MORE into Android, in my opinion, is a BAD thing. I've had Android and an iPhone. I think the live tiles are miles ahead of widgets. I love my Windows Phone because 1) it's so slick and takes remarkably less time to do tasks compared to Android 2) Nokia actually cares about it and provides decent updates and 3) Some apps are completely unnecessary as the OS has them as native. IE Song identification, barcode scanning, podcast management, etc.
Being on my Windows Phone is like swimming with the current. My Android felt like I was going against the current. So, I traded a background image for increased productivity. Worth it, and Nokia knows that.
Plus, where my wife's Galaxy S 2 is so weak and fragile that it's cracked and falling apart, my Lumia 900's design is solid as a rock. I really love what Nokia has done and it's a damn shame that people can't see past their fanaticism to even give it a shot.
As I've said, I've had Android, I've had an iPhone. Now I've had a Windows Phone. My next phone WILL BE another Windows Phone.
52. Muzhhur (Posts: 260; Member since: 14 Sep 2012)
Ithink Android would be the winner if nokia takes the OS, others scenarios wont bring any kind of victory for Nokia
56. ghostnexus (Posts: 96; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)
After profits rise maybe they'll make android phones & windows phones just like HTC and Samsung
58. lallolu (Posts: 453; Member since: 18 Sep 2012)
The poll options are not complete.. I don't agree with any of the options, and i think Nokia should not leave windows since they are a major player in windows phone OS. However, Nokia should be releasing just one premium android device in a year.. This device should have the best available cpu and RAM, they should also put a high capacity battery and make it possible to use microsd card. Lastly, the material used should be premium e.g polycarbonate or aluminium.. All with the nice Nokia name in front.
60. jlscott777 (Posts: 45; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
I would really go for Windows Phone if Microsoft just made the Metro UI an option that you could simply bypass and have a home screen UI similar to Android or Symbian.
61. Martine (Posts: 102; Member since: 20 Oct 2011)
Nokia should not switch to Android. They should rather make Android and Windows phones while they work on improving Symbian. That is the best way to for the mobile division to make profits (something that hasn't happened in years) in no time.
63. Aeires (unregistered)
I voted absolutely because there wasn't an option to fit my view on it. Nokia shouldn't switch to Android, they should to both Android and WP together. A company of their size could make it happen.
And I don't see Google having a problem with awarding Nokia a Nexus phone.
66. feres13 (Posts: 306; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)
windows phone marketshare : 5% tops
Android marketshare : i am not sure but i bet it's AT LEAST 60%
So it's obviouis that nokia can be more successful with android. That doesn't mean that they should stop working on windows phone. Wouldn't that be awesome if they released pretty much the exact same phone, one running windows phone and the olther running android?? It's not like if they never done that ( Nokia N9 - Lumia 800 / Nokia 603 - Lumia 710 ), less hardware delelopment, more consumer interest, WIN WIN!! It's easy : Take your lumia 920, change the capacitive buttons, and maybe replace the S4 by an S4 PRO and add 1 olther GB of ram since android needs it. You already got the screen, the design, the camera and all the hardware, and all the awesome stuff the 920 comes with, use preferably stock android with verry minor modifications. I LOVE the lumia 920, but i use heavily google services and we all know the google vs microsoft war ( youtube, google calendar,gmail, drive...) i can't just switch to windows phone so easily. and android user would be glad with a (insert android range name ) 920 and all the google services and the playstore apps and games. while a windows phone user will be glad to use xbox live and misic and skydrive with his lumia 920. Both are happy, consumers are happy, they buy stuff, nokia becomes the biggest smartphone manufacturer! It's a win for everybody!
67. donfem (Posts: 642; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)
I guess we all have different opinions on all topics. What I don't understand is why some dolts thumb down someone else's opinion. If you don't agree, ten write your's.
68. astrocramp (Posts: 8; Member since: 16 Jan 2011)
No, the world doesn't need another android variant. It needs a good Windows Phone portfolio and RIM to survive. Android already has a ton of variation, why would we need another me-too device?
72. papss (unregistered)
PA WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING? Typical of a android bias site. None of those are my response.. I would answer with a hell no
88. Shino (banned) (Posts: 196; Member since: 23 Jul 2012)
Dude, I do not know whether they're smokin', but 90% of their ''journalists'' are not even real ones, maybe most of them are between 18-24, underaged and not very smart, actually. Would a NORMAL person ask a question like this? Nokia and Android? It is like ''Would BMW buy engines from KIA for their 7-series?"
78. XperiaFanZone (Posts: 2052; Member since: 21 Sep 2012)
No they shouldn't. Android 's getting boring now, so they're better off with WP.
79. SportDriver (Posts: 31; Member since: 07 Nov 2012)
I think they should take Android.If thay would took Android i would not even thin about any thing else but Nokia but now i do not relly like WP8 there are yust not enough apps.
80. aco96 (Posts: 240; Member since: 12 Oct 2012)
I like Lumias, but Symbian doesn't deserve to die :(
81. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Why doesn't Nokia make phones for both platforms? It doesn't have to be one way or the other.
85. Shino (banned) (Posts: 196; Member since: 23 Jul 2012)
Nokia, a respected manufacturer to use an os, which is PROVEN as stolen?! This is not LG or Samsung, guys. PA, please do not let underaged to write articles, okay?
87. Aeires (unregistered)
Enlighten us with that proof, but keep opinions out, just facts.
89. Shino (banned) (Posts: 196; Member since: 23 Jul 2012)
Over $1 billion fine for Samsung - the main manufacturer using Android. Enough proof? GS1 and iP3GS, and more, amd more. Please, dude.