Should Nokia switch to Android?
0. phoneArena 24 Jan 2013, 10:18 posted on
Hooray, Nokia is profitable again! After a long and painful internal transitional period, the ex-largest cell phone manufacturer has finally swung back to profitability during the beloved holiday season (Q4). Understandably, the profit isn't that big - it's $585 million, but at least it's a start...
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223. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 2957; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)
Veigald...that's not a good thing to say.
Same to you Troll...i mean General :P
Every OS has the right to exist. I'm a Windows follower having an affair with Android...and i don't support your views.
261. Dinged (Posts: 8; Member since: 12 Jan 2012)
Ripoff? Who cares? They all ripoff one another including Apple. Apple ripped off Xerox with a windowed/icon interface for its desktop OS and then ripped off grid-like icon application launching from Palm.
233. haseebzahid (Posts: 1763; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
hah u own a free s**ty OS and bragg over it baggers dont brag
51. RiseAgainst94 (Posts: 271; Member since: 03 Mar 2012)
iOs is stale and Winfows feels unfinished. Of course you need the right hardware to support the software but I have no doubt Nokia would provide. I also should add that Nokia is the only company whose software additions I would actually welcome.
86. Aeires (unregistered)
Haters gonna hate, even though their opinions were founded in 2009.
Everything you said is a thing of the past. And a coworker of mine loves his GS3.
91. belovedson (Posts: 821; Member since: 30 Nov 2010)
I love my gs3. A lot of you guys make assumptions about Android. I force close are now rare
108. haseebzahid (Posts: 1763; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
SGS3 battery time 1 day / Lumia920 battery time 2 days as far i read for same activites and hardware is identical on both only OS is differnt so android is BS in that matter too
113. maccess (Posts: 451; Member since: 16 Jan 2013)
hey dude he talked about force close that being rare now.. no one talked about batery life.. why push yourself so hard to brag about the lumia 920 that you never owned
128. Ruckus (Posts: 276; Member since: 20 Oct 2011)
I sell phones and sell a lot of GS3s. But when we sell a couple or a family with a mix of iphones and GS3s, more times than not the GS3 user trades it in for an iPhone 5.
For the record my co workers GS3 still force closes often.
234. haseebzahid (Posts: 1763; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
well i was talking about sweetrolls from bakery -_-
and who is bragging i am comparing a crtical aspect of 2 same moblies hardware with differnt OS
148. jroc74 (Posts: 3625; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Sorry....but I would like to see some links to this...cuz every thing I see online points to poor battery life for the 920.
The GS3 and One X are one of the better Android phones for overall battery life.
183. papss (Posts: 2872; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)
I can personally tell you that you are wrong about battery life.. It's nothing for my 920 to last 2 days on a charge.. I don't need to read about.. I have the proof in my hand
196. jroc74 (Posts: 3625; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Ok.....you have personal proof about the 920...do you have a GS3?
If not....its moot. All I can go on is online reports. This is users posting this and articles...not reviewers. Also saw a article about an update to fix the battery life on the 920. It cant all be roses...
205. papss (Posts: 2872; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)
If I'm being honest the update hurt my battery life.. Incredible enough it was getting close to three days before the update.
To answer your question no I haven't nor do I have a S3, I only owned the skyrocket. I will likely never own a SS product again.. While I love their chips and even consider the top pack, I hate their designs and their uses of plastic.
236. haseebzahid (Posts: 1763; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
well the tests explains why it last 2 days standby or normal use follow the link they explained how the test was performed naturally it will run out soon but tests look legit
235. haseebzahid (Posts: 1763; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
here is the whole review of 920 with tests while PA never does it
248. jroc74 (Posts: 3625; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Thanks for the link....but compared to the GS3....the 920 comes up short for battery life. Not talking about the endurance numbers...but the talk time, web browsing and video playback.
Just calculating the graphs in that link and looking at this:
I said it before...the GS3 and One X have good battery life for Android phones. The 920 might edge out the One X...but not the GS3....based on those tests. Stand by times....thats when the phone is not in use. I dont even go by that anymore. Other factors can effect that....like being in a weak reception area.
Actually....the dual core version of the One X has better battery life than the quad core version....and than the 920:
249. jroc74 (Posts: 3625; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
And the info I posted about the GS3....was the quad core version...Trying to find info about the dual core one....
251. jroc74 (Posts: 3625; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Using this from Anandtech.....even tho it dont have video playback...the dual core vserion of the GS3 might have better battery life than the quad core...
It what it is tho, ya know? Android phones in general gets a bad rep.....and most of it isn not true.
267. haseebzahid (Posts: 1763; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
dont forget u comparing 2100mAh vs 2000mAh
155. jroc74 (Posts: 3625; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
If it was too faulty, crashes too much.....it would be losing market share in droves. Look at the old Win Mo....or MS in general and where they are right now in the smartphone race.
Sorry...but the overall numbers dont go with all the claims of a buggy, crashes too much, force closing OS.
191. papss (Posts: 2872; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)
I have no problem with android.. He'll that's where I came from however I do strongly dislike SS and mostly Apple ( except my iPad)... I wasn't even on board with WP8 but after the hype of the L920 I decided I would give it a chance and I actually love it. Will I keep with WP? Who knows.. I'm a tech freak so whatever peaks my interest is what I'll get. I'm more about the phone than the os
208. maccess (Posts: 451; Member since: 16 Jan 2013)
"I do strongly dislike SS and mostly Apple" "I'm more about the phone than the os" oke it's safe for me now to assume you as a nokia fanboy... that's mean any of your arguments about s3 with lumia 920 were invalid and can't be trust..
263. papss (Posts: 2872; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)
Lol right..l but your fanboy comments do? Ok son...
3. andro. (Posts: 1926; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)
If the n8 was android it'd have been a huge seller. Windows phones are unpopular,vast amount of people in general hate live tiles blocky ui,and most people know the lack of options,apps and games.
Nokia is getting passed on continually due to windows,there are a huge number of people daily moving from feature phones to their first smartphone,alot of these people are nokia loyal for the most part and if there was a nokia android phone they'd make it their first smartphone. However because of the reason mentioned above of the vast dislike of windows these people cannot overcome these to stay loyal with nokia and instead buy a samsung galaxy or htc one range etc.
nokia is not only losing out on the smartphone market but its sole income from the feature phone market is shrinking from under it and these loyal customers are moving elsewhere
20. Mozarrt (Posts: 287; Member since: 08 Oct 2011)
The N8 was a huge seller. It was Nokia's last huge seller though.
29. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Exactly.. it sold some 9 million units.
And what Nokia does?
Instead of focusing on perfecting Symbian, they kill it!
83. andro. (Posts: 1926; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)
Hmmm it sold at a slightly reasonably level,that is a level nokia considered good but a level massively outsold buy out smartphones from the likes of htc and samsung. The principle reason it sold any bit was for the camera,not the phone or os itself. Phones after it like the e7 etc failed massively due to not having the same camera and android proving massively superior
24. saiki4116 (Posts: 296; Member since: 31 Mar 2011)
Valid Point...It's definitely true in India...
4. zuckerboy (Posts: 626; Member since: 22 Dec 2011)
not completely but they must release highend device with android wp good but new os android will rise nokia again
5. allen83 (Posts: 104; Member since: 01 Mar 2012)
Or maybe sailfish os will be a great alternative
6. remixfa (Posts: 13901; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
I dont like the poll choices.
There needs to be one that says "they need to diversify and offer both Android and WP7/8 choices".
Why should they have to be one or the other? No other company is taking that stand. HTC,Samsung, LG, they all make sets for multiple OS's to mitigate potential loss and increase potential profit.
13. XPERIA-KNIGHT (Posts: 2384; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)
yes im very glad you mentioned this remixfa bro.....because i was just saying to myself that they should CONTINUE with windows phone BUT ALSO make at least ONE android phone..........release it to the public and see how well it does............they cannot go wrong in doing that............also if they DO choose to make an android phone.........they should not hold back anything in doing so.....meaining they should make it as top notched as any high end android phone..............I smell success do you?
45. jsdechavez (Posts: 652; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)
Nice one. That would be like treading uncertain waters, which route to take.. but they decided it best to be the Windows Phone flagship. Now that they're out of the red they might as well push on. Investors will be less skeptic and be more positive with Elop's decision when he went on with that burning platform speech.
65. TylerGrunter (Posts: 757; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)
+1 for you
I was just going to comment the same, it´s not a case of "either or"
They don´t need to switch, they could just use their knowledge to create Windows AND Android phones.
76. bvalde09 (Posts: 171; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)
And I will agree with u on that but I dont see Nokia taking the android path at least not for now, they were reporting loss and now they are reporting profits I guess they will have to come to some sort of agreement to get Android runnning on one of her phones. Dont think they have the cash for it. W8 is a good OS like may others. I think they should stick with it and on the long run follow Xperia Knight advise. :D
93. remixfa (Posts: 13901; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
it doesnt take much cash. In fact, its cheaper to produce an android set anyways since there is less in the way of royalty per device involved than with WP7/8 handsets.
Besides, the tech in the set is exactly the same, its just a different OS on the same phone. Same thing Samsung and HTC already do... rerelease popular Android designs/sets as Windows sets. Nokia would just be doing it in reverse.
A 40something mpx proview camera on a nearly stock android 4.2 build with a 720/1080p screen, quad core, and 2 gig of ram? You know you want it.... hell, I want it. lol.
84. Charlie_boy (Posts: 49; Member since: 04 Jan 2013)
Many Android phones and some Windows phones.
Many Windows phones and some Android phones.
This scenario sounds good.. Gives the consumers more choice/diversity while letting Nokia keep it's (mostly) Windows identity.
141. jroc74 (Posts: 3625; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
I agree.....why not do both.
But the more I think about it.....Nokia has a map app, Google has one. Who is gonna give in in that dept? For that reason alone...I dont think its gonna happen.
I was also thinking.....why dont MS just get rid of the other WP manufactures and use Nokia soley? They would still compete with Android and iOS because they have lower end models and other models of Lumia phones.
So I suggest Nokia do both......and/or MS dump the other manufactures and only use Nokia.
253. remixfa (Posts: 13901; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
why couldnt Nokia still pack Nokia Maps on an android phone? Google Maps is not the only mapping solution on Android. Google doesnt play like Apple and restrict your choices to just theirs.
However, for 99% of the people, Google Maps works better. N-Maps has its advantages, but they are mostly for heavy travelers.
7. howardbarrett (Posts: 45; Member since: 11 Jan 2013)
I'd prefer Nokia switch to BB10 instead
8. _Bone_ (Posts: 1995; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
I like Nokia standing firm behind the Windows platform, I'd simply like to see Android manufacturers licencing the 808 sensor, that would be a winner combo.
9. skymitch89 (Posts: 969; Member since: 05 Nov 2010)
I'm not going to vote, but I say that they should keep with Windows Phone but also offer Android devices. Kinda like what Samsung and HTC are doing.
10. StreetNerd (Posts: 698; Member since: 08 Dec 2010)
why put fuel to the fire for android fanboi.....
this is just plain stupid post
11. harsh_doshi (Posts: 32; Member since: 27 Aug 2012)
see guys look how bad android was before 2.2 I mean it lagged and all.. but it still took off...wp8 is just the second(third actually) iteration of an OS(really great for tht comaring with 2.1) give it atleast some time to mature before coming to an conclusion. nokia went wp is different than other almost every manufacturer makes android phones..and look at all of them the only one making nice profit is Samsung!.. heck htc had less profit than nokia in Q4!..and I support the fact tht nokia went wp..it gives it a term of differentiation! time will tell and acc. to me it will pay off and youll soon see nokia in the top£ manufacterers..as soon as more and more people come to know about the OS.
12. Valdomero (Posts: 116; Member since: 13 Nov 2012)
I love Nokia phones, their build quality, battery life, camera, design, everything. Being shipped with Windows OS turned me down to get the latest flagship, I just can't stand those live tiles, over-simplistic OS and lack of real customization.
Nokia can stay manufacturing their devices for Windows OS, but they can also make a phones series based on Android OS.
One can dream.
94. remixfa (Posts: 13901; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
find an OS that isnt fragmented and come back n talk at the big boy table.
122. Zero0 (Posts: 557; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
Windows Phone fragmentation is unacceptable.
16. GALAXY-STORM (Posts: 328; Member since: 13 Oct 2012)
I believe Android is the last reliable option on nokia's mind right now though they have Started To express their Caliber on windows platform. Android on nokia is always a win-win situation from consumers pov. I Had an nokia 5800 xpressmusic and an n73 which were legendary during its days and used it to full extent.
Btw what would they call a family of nokia phones running on android?