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Should Google remove the option to sideload Android apps?

0. phoneArena 26 Jul 2012, 04:38 posted on

The problem with Android app piracy seems to be escalating lately, with more and more developers expressing their negative opinion towards the platform's little to no protection against it...

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posted on 27 Jul 2012, 07:54

108. OSFantasma (Posts: 119; Member since: 27 Sep 2011)


like that solution reminds me of iRobot haha rothl.. Agreed..

posted on 26 Jul 2012, 06:23 8

38. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1533; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


I wonder if you understand the consequences of your own article. Do you realize that you are asking to close the Amazon Appstore and all the other alternative stores?
That means no freedom to install ANYTHING than Google (like Apple does) finds it should not be in the store, which leads to easy censorship.
Now Google is not censoring much (they do some), but what ensures you that they won't do in the future if you close the system?

posted on 26 Jul 2012, 07:00 2

43. Twashbush (Posts: 47; Member since: 08 Jun 2011)


Ray there is a problem with that, It would kill the amazon app store and other such app markets for android because they require that option

posted on 27 Jul 2012, 07:52

107. OSFantasma (Posts: 119; Member since: 27 Sep 2011)


Ray your word close is giving the wrong impression. solution should have been used instead. also Great Dev's should be rewarded that's not the problem but there are better solutions.

posted on 26 Jul 2012, 06:53 1

42. roscuthiii (Posts: 2226; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)


Oh, so is this more of an opinionated editorial than an objective poll then? I didn't know there was a correct answer intended here.

Now, from this point on, I'm afraid I'm going to have to call you out on every piece of BS that falls off your fingertips onto the pages of PA.
Time to put on my troll hat, drink up the haterade, and whip out the red pen.

posted on 26 Jul 2012, 04:55 1

7. tiara6918 (Posts: 2070; Member since: 26 Apr 2012)


My answer for that question is no. But if you ask me a question relating about piracy with these apps/games, I think they should think of a way to get rid of it. I can see that the app developers are not being treated equally enough despite their hardwork and effort in making these things. However, if google still doesn't want to remove the option to sideload apps, I think the best thing they can do is to stop piracy. By the way, the reason that I answered no is because there are other apps that are made aside from the ones present in google play(like samsung apps,etc)and this would be a good opportunity on manufacturers to create something exclusively for their handsets.

posted on 26 Jul 2012, 05:02 4

12. Ray.S (Posts: 339; Member since: 19 Jul 2011)


If manufacturers want to give you an app they have made, they simply pre-load it on their devices, no need to download it separately. For those few manufacturer/carrier apps that are offered as downloads, I think they can simply offer them through the Play Store. They won't be available to users of different carriers/manufacturers, because they will be configured to show up only for those devices running on their own network/models.

posted on 26 Jul 2012, 05:28 3

23. infernal88 (Posts: 113; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)


but one thing u miss ...to download and install an app from " samsung apps " i have to check on unknown sources in the settings ... if it isnt there how would i get things from other markets :/ other than playstore

posted on 26 Jul 2012, 04:57 6

9. droidnator (Posts: 87; Member since: 10 Mar 2011)


Open source equals Freedom. We like to have a choice. Removing an option is removing a part of freedom! "No I Like my Freedom" !

posted on 26 Jul 2012, 04:58 5

10. sid07desai (Posts: 290; Member since: 03 May 2012)


The reason why most of the people are going for Android rather than iOS is because they don't have to pay for apps. They can just download the .apk files and their done. If Google do anything to make this go away, they are no different than Apple.

posted on 26 Jul 2012, 04:59 7

11. wendygarett (unregistered)


Matt, the ios dev never appreciate the beauty of android ( choice )

posted on 26 Jul 2012, 05:05 7

14. Ray.S (Posts: 339; Member since: 19 Jul 2011)


There's beauty in software piracy? Sideloading pirated apps and having choice, the ability to customize the OS, etc. are two very, very different things.

posted on 26 Jul 2012, 05:48 6

28. SonyFTW2020 (Posts: 311; Member since: 03 May 2012)


hahahah yes it is my friend sadly people here think the devs are trying to strip them of something when they are actually trying to help and get the credit they deserve....All the simple and average games should remain free on the google play store BUT the ones that are popular and good should definitely be worth paying for there hard work....simple and plain

posted on 27 Jul 2012, 08:05 1

110. OSFantasma (Posts: 119; Member since: 27 Sep 2011)


trust me even on iOS there is people that think that way. Just look at the in app purchase bug. People who took advantage of it did. Even the hacker knows that things like that can be fixed by software updates. Android play store gets update no matter what version of Android. iOS to my Knowledge is updated during a platform update but if it was independent of the platform it would already have been a different story for that in app-purchase bug.

posted on 29 Jul 2012, 03:54

114. upetro (Posts: 4; Member since: 28 Jul 2012)


Not every sideload is piracy! If i buy an app(either Playstore or the internet) i should be able to share it with who I want! What you are suggesting will prevent me from doing so, because the person I want to share it with wont be able to install the app, since he didnt buy the app, but I did! If i buy something i sure as hell am making the decision to share!

posted on 29 Jul 2012, 07:40

115. Paximos (Posts: 158; Member since: 26 Jul 2012)


So, do you share your grocieries with your neighboor and friends too..Just because YOU paid for it??

posted on 30 Jul 2012, 09:16 1

116. upetro (Posts: 4; Member since: 28 Jul 2012)


Of course i do! but it is my decision with whom i want to share them!!! I can also share my car with whoever I want, since I bought it! Get it!

posted on 26 Jul 2012, 05:03 1

13. MeoCao (unregistered)


Google in fact does not make much money from apps, at least for now. Android is important to Google as a marketing and data gathering tool so Google wants to put Android into as many gadgets as possible. And Google is never active in fighting piracy b-c that may limit the reach of their search service and data gathering.

posted on 27 Jul 2012, 08:09

111. OSFantasma (Posts: 119; Member since: 27 Sep 2011)


I don't think you fully understand Google. Ideas like the one you have are a part of the problem when comes to OS Developers as well as App Developers. Google does offer the best the both worlds if app developers went to I/O this year they would know of the great options google has for them and the strides Google is making to better the relationship with them..

posted on 26 Jul 2012, 05:05 6

16. nadar.bsm (Posts: 32; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)


i am an Android fan.. like open source envoirnment... still there should be some control so that mis-use or hurt someone very bad in their finance is not a good practice....

so I say Yes.. Google should take this step to keep the developers for the OS....

installing the 3rd party app is possible through root.. so if u root the device then install it... dont give such functions on it core OS...

I know I will get may dislikes for this but this still is my opinion...

posted on 26 Jul 2012, 05:13 3

18. kindkin (Posts: 9; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)


Seriously, you say that most iDevice user didnt know how to jailbreak for their device? Well, in my country, almost all of my friends have jailbroken their device, even my cousin who is not a tech geek also has her device jailbroken. So... Jailbreaking iDevice isn't that hard as you think!

posted on 26 Jul 2012, 08:30

57. TimTebow (Posts: 70; Member since: 14 Feb 2012)


Probably not a 1st world country....

posted on 26 Jul 2012, 05:16 2

19. Mitchel (Posts: 228; Member since: 25 May 2012)


I voted yes..

posted on 26 Jul 2012, 05:24 2

21. OHaZZaR (Posts: 131; Member since: 19 Aug 2011)


Actually, Jailbreaking iOS devices isn't difficult at all. Pirating is also much easier as well than on android. The reason many wouldn't jailbreak is because the warranty would be void, truth is anyone with access to youtube can easily jailbreak their iOS device it's several times easier than rooting as well.

posted on 26 Jul 2012, 05:40 11

26. kanagadeepan (Posts: 944; Member since: 24 Jan 2012)


I have ZERO pirated apps in all my Android phones and tablets... I have purchased 92 PAID APPS from PlayStore in last one year (Not only the 1$ ones).

I vote for "NO.. I like my Freedom"... Reasons being some apps works better in their old version than their updated ones in PlayStore... Eg:- Old RootChecker FREE app has now less features than the latest RootChecker... Also one developer started showing Ads on NOTIFICATION Bar, instead of in-app... I use the old FREE app backup now... AM I A PIRATE???

Even old PAID app (purchased by me) Plants Vs Zombies has support on GameOn (purchased paid app for storing and retrieving scores) and NOT the new one (for ICS optimisations, they changed many things in new version)... So if I use their old app in my new phone, AM I A PIRATE????

Also old PLAYSTORE app has an option showing PURCHASED PAID apps as NOT INSTALLED, that will be very useful in changing to a new phone... I have installed that OLD PlayStore app (via apk file) as system app (via PURCHASED RootExplorer), so that I can install my paid apps fast in my new phone... AM I A BL00DY PIRATE????

SO it is Total BS to close that method...

posted on 26 Jul 2012, 05:53 3

29. SonyFTW2020 (Posts: 311; Member since: 03 May 2012)


you have a good point and it makes alot of sense in the way you explain it....and if it means losing certain abilities and the convience of certain apps then yes i agree completely with you

posted on 26 Jul 2012, 06:02 4

35. Ray.S (Posts: 339; Member since: 19 Jul 2011)


You know what most people use app sideloading for, and it's not to fix software version incompatibilities.

posted on 26 Jul 2012, 06:42 4

41. roscuthiii (Posts: 2226; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)


Wow, what a lame response from a PA writer. Kanagadeepan brought up a valid point, and you go all miffed ex-girlfriend on him (or her). Please Ray, take an extended vacation, see a proctologist, and have that stick removed.
Face it, one of the main reasons Android was so embraced was it's open nature. Think of it just like the internet. Shut down any file sharing site you like (aka pirate) and 2 more will pop up. So, let's say Google does shut down side-loading apps, there are people out there with the skills and motivation to maintain the rooted device movement. And, as with anything else, the more restrictive things get, the more rebellious those restricted will be. I'd bet you anything the numbers of rooted devices would skyrocket.
That's the nature of the beast. Been that way since rhetorical Eve ate the metaphorical apple.
Also, lest you forget, Android is open source. Anyone can do anything they like with it... up to and including leaving out integration with the Play Store. Leaving it completely open to 3rd party app stores, again.

posted on 26 Jul 2012, 15:49 2

84. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)


yep thats like saying all people that jailbreak and root is to get free games and free tethering..until real statistics come from these apparent high piracy we cant really tell how bad it is. what most people dont tech into consideration is that not all the people that pirates apps,movies,music etc are loss sales because its not 100% that they would have brought product x. i have like many have tried pirated apps and if i like it i will actually buy it because it is more convenient to get updates from play store than waiting for the app to be cracked again..lol its funny how PA is condeming piracy when i have seen installous which is the pirate app store for iphone in one of there iphone 4 videos while back..just saying :)

posted on 26 Jul 2012, 05:47 6

27. darktranquillity (Posts: 284; Member since: 28 Feb 2012)


How can someone set fire on a house to kill the rats?

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