Share Everything plans arriving June 28 on Verizon, unlimited talk and text plus 2GB data for $100 a month
0. phoneArena 12 Jun 2012, 07:54 posted on
Verizon kept its word to introduce its new shared data plans in the summer, and they are indeed arriving June 28, so hopefully you took advantage of that Galaxy S III preorder, because when the handset actually launches, you might have to pay full price for keeping your grandfathered unlimited plan...
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1. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
Virgin Mobile gives its customers 10 GB of WiMax and 2 GB of 3G data for $35 a month. That makes Verizon's deal look insane. If I pay a one time fee of $150 for the mobile hotspot at Virgin, I get more data for a much lower no contract monthly payment.
I think Verizon needs to get more in touch with reality.
5. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
Price wise virgin is a good deal, but wimax won't last long after sprint abandons it (which it has started doing) and Clearwire/Clear has to maintain it on its own.
13. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
10gb of slow.. yay virgin...
you can get 10 gb of 42mb/s 4g from Tmobile for $60.
107. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
When you read these comments, it's so easy to spot those that drank the kool-aid.
1. 42 Mbps is the top speed, neither the constant nor average speed. I have a 4G LTE hotspot with Verizon and I average 4 to 8 Mbps on a sustained basis with burst of 12 to 15 Mbps. And during peak hours, I am lucky to get 2 Mbps. I know my speeds because I always connect via VZAccess Manager when I am on my laptop plus I can download the log of my sessions. Therefore, looking at the top speed is just plain silly. It's just stupid to buy a Ferrari if most of the driving occurs when the speed limit is 30 mph because the "network" is congested.
2. My contract 4G data with Verizon requires that I spend $50 a month over two years. That means each month, I am out $50 whether I consume 1 Mb or 5,120 Mb (recall there are 1,024 Mb per Gb). Since the $50 is fixed each month, unless I consume as much as 5,120 MB without going over, then that minimizes my cost to about 1 cent per Mb of data. Therefore, since there are no rollover data plans, you want to spend the least amount each month, other things being equal.
3. Also, the people who are educated understand that there are only 168 hours in a week (7*24). The network is generally congested from say 8 am to 6 pm (about 10 hours a day) Mondays to Fridays or 50 hours of the week. Then most typical people sleep 8 hours a day (say 11 pm to 7 am) or 56 hours in a week. That means out of the original 168 hours in the week, you're not going to get great speed during the 50 hours when the network is congest and you are not going to get great speed for the other 56 hours that you are asleep. That means you are enjoying that really, really fast speed for only 62 hours of the week. 62 hours is only 36.9% of the 168 hour week. Again, so much for the Ferrari argument.
For some of us who wants 10 GB of data at an average speed of 3 to 6 Mbps with burst of 10 Mbps, only want to pay $35 a month on a no contract basis, it makes sense. And with the money we saved, we could buy the New iPad or some other nice electronic toy.
If you really did get sustained speeds of 42 Mbps, then that translates into 2,520 Mbp minute or 2.46 Gbp minute and you would consume 10 GB of data in almost four minutes. Food for thought.
119. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
you know what ardent..
that was the most blatherous over reaching arguement ive seen in a while.
you can do all the math you want to justify it. but hey, why dont u just say " this is what I feel like spending with my wallet"? That would be so much easier. Because u know what? Facts are against you. National test after national test pegs Tmobile just barely behind VZW in speed. Spring is ALWAYS last place, thus so is Virgin since they roam off of Sprint.
Dude, I run a 3g SGS1 on Tmobile, and I average 3-5 during PEAK times. It's all about where you live. And in Jville where I live, Tmobile has it covered. point blank.. period. Whenever I've run a test on the 42mb capable phones like the Samsung Blaze, i get between 10-30mpb/s, PEAK.
The plans are cheap enough, the speeds are fast enough, and I have enough wiggle room with gettin the phones that I want on the carrier or international... that I'm happy. Come on over, the water is fine.
131. cfprelude (Posts: 137; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)
hey remix - followed ur comments for a long time but didn't realize u were from jville too. I've been wondering about tmobile for a while... on vzw with grandfathered unlimited data on two lines and then a "dumb phone" for the kid.... the new shared data plans don't kill us but we certainly don't benefit... i think it'll go up by about $10/month for the amount of data we use. anyway, hows the 4g coverage been around here when you've used 4g capable phones? I've been with vzw so long but have been out of contract on 2 of the 3 lines for a while. Anyway - interested in hearing your first hand thoughts for this area.
35. thedarkside (Posts: 654; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)
yay wimax... i remember my first cell phone.
105. items17070 (Posts: 70; Member since: 20 Dec 2011)
i wouldnt saysloooowww.., i have clearwire unlimited apollo 4G wimax, and i get at least 10 - 12mbps DL, i wouldnt exacly call that slow..... and only for $40month and yes unlimited,, and verizon isnt that much faster, not enough to justify my $40unlimited wimax at 10 - 12mbps, but i have to agree ardent1 is right about verizon does need to throw consumers a bone or two! they are still in the dark ages with there pricing....makes me wonder what they will offer with advanced LTE with speed of 100mbps or higher! hope maybe they will have a brain fart and get past the 5gb barrier for mifi's and even cell phones...
86. VZAZGuy (Posts: 6; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)
All because you can't afford to drive a Ferrari, doesn't mean that you need to hate on other companies. Does Virgin mobile have 4G? WiMax by the way is garbage and you should compare the speeds sometime!
92. ApphoIe (banned) (Posts: 78; Member since: 31 May 2012)
LMFAO, yeah, you go on rocking your pre paid plan and thinking you're getting one over on the contract carriers. I'm sure everyone who bought a Geo Metro thought they were way smarter than people buying real cars. You totally get what you pay for, and in the case of virging mobile (LOL) customers, you're paying for cheap sub par crap.
2. dcgore (Posts: 227; Member since: 24 Feb 2012)
The more devices one has the bigger the benefit. But as a single smartphone user you'll take a big hit compared to the old plans.
23. danwatson (Posts: 117; Member since: 03 Jan 2012)
Assuming you don't hit the 10GB limit... and if you use a LTE tablet for video streaming, good luck after adding a couple devices. This plan sucks in just about every way.
44. iami67 (Posts: 318; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
its not a ten gig limit u can get more this is only have a leaked shot vzw website has more. the prices thos are crazy and dcgore u are incorrect the more smart phones u have the more u are paying and a lot more you are paying. unless your one of the few who has a smart phone and does not use data. Thank you verizon for having the biggest 4g coverage with no data allowed
106. items17070 (Posts: 70; Member since: 20 Dec 2011)
LOL, love that 'Thank you verizon for having the biggest 4g coverage with no data allowed' aint that the truth!!! hey VZAZGu nothing like having a Ferrari and you CANT drive it! :-)
3. ajac09 (Posts: 1481; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)
Virign also sells devices at full price not a contract price. Verizon makes its money back on devices by offering a 2 year contract and the price of Verizon you get much better data speeds and much larger coverage area. Want some of the best data speeds and coverage? you will pay. If your in an area where Virgin/sprint/boost work well then you are lucky . But AT&T isnt much more then sprint and though have limited data work great. Now I wonder what AT&T tiered plans will be like
93. ApphoIe (banned) (Posts: 78; Member since: 31 May 2012)
Virgin also sells handsets that are 2-3 years behind the contract carriers offerings for MORE than a current top of the line contract phone. $200 for an LG optimus (LMFAO) or $149 for an HTC One X, gee that's a real tough decision...
108. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
> Virgin also sells handsets that are 2-3 years behind the contract carriers offerings for MORE than a current top of the line contract phone.
That's simply not true.
1. Virgin will soon be selling the iPhone 4S and iPhone 4, which is hardly 2-3 years behind the current top of the line contract phone.
2. The correct way to evaluate a no-contract versus contract phone is via a discount cash flow analysis. I, for one, refuse to pay $80 a month over 24 months (that is $1,920 in payments) just to save $300 to $350 off the list price of a new phone like the HTC One X -- no way, Jose!!
3. I have two cellphones: (a) Moto Triumph that I paid $300 and I only pay $25 a month for 300 anytime minutes and 2.5 GB of 3G data and (b) Samsung basic phone that is on a prepaid plan on Verizon where I get unlimited Verizon to Verizon calls for $1 a day -- most of my friends and family are on Verizon.
My cell phone bill is only $300 a year for Virgin and $100 a year for Verizon for a total of $400. I actually pay less because I take advantage of discounted top-up cards when they go on sale -- I generally pay a 10% discount meaning my real annual cell phone bill is more like $360 a year. At $80 a month for a two-year contract, I would have paid $960 so I am saving $600 a year by my approach.
115. JunitoNH (Posts: 1861; Member since: 15 Feb 2012)
With Verizon is a non winning proposition. If you were to buy your own device outright, you still have to pay the same prices as post paid subscribers. You only advantages is that your not locked to a two year agreement.
4. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
Paying the same for less... Verizon doesn't get it. I hope AT&T's shared data plans offer 5GB to share and include unlimited messaging and start at like $100 for first 2 lines and just $10 more for a phone and maybe $20 for a data-only device...
7. tedkord (Posts: 11996; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
They won't. AT&T will closely mirror Verizon's prices.
22. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
Oh I know. Have offered the same pricing for years, but the prices sometimes get you something slightly different. For instance AT&T offers unlimited mobile to any mobile with its unlimited messaging, and 3GB for $30 versus verizon's 2GB for $30. 150% for the same price. I doubt that AT&T offers 5GB on the initial setup, but as long as they price-match with 3GB that will keep things competitive.
Personally I had thought the goal of shared data was to let customers use more data on multiple devices for the same or less than what they pay individually. This new setup is kinda backwards
46. iami67 (Posts: 318; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
I agree new price are backwards and over priced. if i want to add a smartphone to my plans its min 60 a month more. 2 gigs of data a month are already not enough
73. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
4G LTE devices get 4GB for 30.00 with VZW
94. ApphoIe (banned) (Posts: 78; Member since: 31 May 2012)
Double the data promotion has ended or is ending soon iirc
6. tedkord (Posts: 11996; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
So, at the minimum my cost for my three smartphones goes up $30/month (If i take the 2/gb per phone share). Of course, I'd need to get the 10gb share, so I'm actually looking at $50/mo more. Thanks for looking out for me, Verizon.
I have two choices now, since two of my three smartphones don't have upgrades until late July - buy devices full price, or go Sprint or prepaid.
8. tward291 (Posts: 559; Member since: 14 Feb 2012)
wow what a rip off i was at walmart the other day and saw a verizon prepaid 80 bucks a month for unlimited talk text and 1GB of data. now that is truly a rip off i cant believe people will pay that thats as much as my contract.
on a second note, it would be cool if one of these companies did data rollover. so the data you didnt use last month rolls to the next month. and they let it add up for up to six months i would def pay more for that plan.
9. dcgore (Posts: 227; Member since: 24 Feb 2012)
Truly a rip off. They shouldn't charge for the first device, then you'll save some money. I can't believe that if i had no phones/devices attached to the account, i would have to pay at the very least $50. CRAZY!
12. LostInTheRed (Posts: 85; Member since: 03 May 2012)
Not to be that guy, but why would you have a contract with a phone company with no phones/devices?