Say Cheese! Apple patent application lets the camera select the best shot
0. phoneArena 14 Feb 2013, 07:02 posted on
Apple has filed an application for a patent on a digital camera technology that would allow the camera to continuously store images in a buffer while the shutter is depressed; once the shutter is released, a preset number of variables are used to help the camera determine which of the shots is the best based on a scoring system...
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1. wendygarett (unregistered)
Nice but... Why must patent? :(
13. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 3095; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)
First of all, i no longer like iPhone so Alan, the answer to your question is "no, i would not like it"
Second, i won't trust a device to pick the best photo out of the lot, although the algorithm may read right, it's not all that. I see it when the photo is good.
Thirdly, (let's come back to your topic Wendy) the game Apple is playing with patents is not the way technology should work.
Apple patents everything they think is original. Sadly, the word "original" is no longer how Apple works. It's the green paper they want to squeeze out of every point they can make.
2. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
Isn't this already there on some phone ... asking because i just can't imagine Apple spending money on R&D (read Patent) on something that has not been done by someone else already :)
7. joseph98 (Posts: 167; Member since: 03 Feb 2012)
Yes in galaxy note II, we have a feature called best photos where the phone will take a burst 8 images then the phone will suggest the best picture out of the 8 so you can either go with phone suggestions or pick the one you like the most to be saved while the other 7 pictures will be automatically deleted from your phone. OK I can see samsung removing this feature once apple is granted the patent and then sue samsung in the near future.
19. rickywinataa (Posts: 262; Member since: 05 Apr 2012)
i don't think apple would be able to do that, samsung has used the feature since Q2 '12 and apple started to file the patent since Q3 '12.
34. joseph98 (Posts: 167; Member since: 03 Feb 2012)
But the news said the co-pending filing started in 2009 which mean samsung is in troubled again along with all other phone manufacturers that uses this feature without paying apple.
The application was first filed in October 2012 as part of another co-pending filing from 2009, and lists Ralph Brunner, Nikhil Bhogal and James David Batson as the inventors.
35. rallyguy (Posts: 605; Member since: 13 Mar 2012)
But the way the US patent office works is, it's given to the first person to apply for the patent, NOT the person who actually creates it first. So if Samsung did not patent their technology then Apple may have a chance to patent it, and sue Samsung again because Apple will claim it as theirs.
42. bipinm (Posts: 122; Member since: 07 Oct 2012)
sony ericsson k790 had that feature...I think that was the first phone to have that feature...the phone take 9 pics and let the user decidewhich photos have to be saved...that was a noce feature...And apple cant sue anyone with that patent...
15. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5987; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Yes, it is available in numerous other applications. joseph gives an example. Dedicated cameras have similar 'best-photo' pre-programmed scene modes that function almost exactly as described in the iApplication.
Hopefully, the USPTO rejects the iApplication as invalid on prior art grounds.
17. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5987; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
It appears that the 2009 application hasn't issued, so USPTO may be having heartburn with Apple. Sometimes, you get an examiner who has an interest (photography) in the subject matter. That would seem to be an iNightmare scenario for Apple - an examiner with good technical subject matter expertise.
40. xtremesv (Posts: 243; Member since: 21 Oct 2011)
it's different, now your iPhone will tell you: "you're shooting them wrong!"
3. nlbates66 (Posts: 317; Member since: 15 Aug 2012)
aren't various phones already out with an equivalent feature?
Galaxy S III certainly has various implementations of it.
5. tech2 (Posts: 2752; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)
true. Many phones already have this feature. Their theory behind selecting the best image maybe different than that of Apple's but the idea of selecting the best picture is already present amongst several phones.
How on earth they get patent everytime they file for one ? when there is similar technology which is already implemented, whereas they haven't even introduced or implemented the technology !
4. amozhi (Posts: 117; Member since: 23 Oct 2012)
Pathetic...Samsung Galaxy S3 already has this feature implemented.
12. RaKithAPeiRiZ (Posts: 1414; Member since: 29 Dec 2011)
•_•) the HTC ONE X
(⌐■_■) had this feature first
6. tiara6918 (Posts: 1845; Member since: 26 Apr 2012)
Why does apple still need to patent this? Other manufacturers already have this feature
31. lolioslol (banned) (Posts: 182; Member since: 10 Dec 2012)
You're not familiar with apple and how they "innovate" (STEAL) are you?
8. nikenturd (unregistered)
There you go, another stupid patent .... imagine if they came up with the 'burst shot' patent....wow ....Apple is trolling like crazy these days
9. darkkjedii (Posts: 13897; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Apple isn't patenting the feature, but the particular way it's done on iOS. Re read the articl people
16. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5987; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Just because a feature is implemented in a different way in iOS does not make it patentable. My Canon PowerShot G9 (circa 2005?) does burst mode where multiple pics are taken with aperture and shutter speed selected by the camera. Adding dynamic range into the mix is not in-and-of-itself unique and innovative.
There is too much prior art around that can invalidate any patent that iApple might be able to game out of the USPTO.
25. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
Yea it's something like patenting how to use the tissue paper to wipe the @rse in a particular way. Who knows that's next from Apple ...
10. Angkor (Posts: 108; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
Samsung Galaxy S3 has a software and programmed to select the best picture but Apple is a camera that select the best picture is very crazy ideas. I hope USPO will not award Apple for crazy ideas.
11. nikenturd (unregistered)
My antiquated Nikon Coolpix point and shoot already has this feature...WOW....i am amazed
20. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6900; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
Thought we agreed not too post any dumb ipatents articles. Y the hell are u trying too control uspto apple?
21. joey_sfb (Posts: 3728; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
Look like Apple is planning another year of patent warfares instead of innovating their product. So sad!
23. gallitoking (Posts: 4693; Member since: 17 May 2011)
Love the feature and proud to use iOS as my operating system
32. lolioslol (banned) (Posts: 182; Member since: 10 Dec 2012)
That is a source of pride for you? Your life must suck then if that's something to be proud of.
33. GeekMovement (Posts: 1807; Member since: 09 Sep 2011)
Kind of sad that they don't realize Apple is playing catch up with Android. We can already enjoy these similar features only better because it doesn't select the best photo for us, WE get to select the best photo. Apple fans are always annoyingly blinded.
41. darkdroid (Posts: 44; Member since: 13 Sep 2012)
keep paying premium for 5 year old tech "trollking"
27. THETECHTEAM (Posts: 82; Member since: 12 Dec 2011)
How Apple gonna patent something that is already on the Samsung phones and other device? Okay I have best shot on my Galaxy Note 2 got dang copy cats! Apple burns me!. They losing out now they gotta go steal other people's ideas and patent them.
28. Fuego84 (Posts: 304; Member since: 13 May 2012)
I can already do this camera function on my HTC One S out of the box no app needed. I just hold the shoot button down and the camera starts taking pictures like a full automactic rile shoots bullets lol. Then I get a preview of all the photos captured along with the cameras choice of best picture which then you can choose to keep all of the photos, keep only the photos selected as best, or delete individually the photos you don't like. I think this having a choice is better that letting the camera bypass on the options for you and choosing the best shot itself. I know that this isn't stated about the apple camera patent but being apple don't they prefer keeping it simple for the user?
30. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6900; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
If their so proud of patenting might as well buy usptp.
36. wsucoug13 (Posts: 164; Member since: 04 May 2012)
My Galaxy SIII that came out in July does that.... so idk what apple is trying to do here
37. rgxVOiD (Posts: 437; Member since: 30 Aug 2012)
My Sony Ericsson K790i came out in 2006 does that as well
38. samystic (Posts: 198; Member since: 25 Mar 2012)
wasn't Nokia's CZ lens doing it for ages?
39. napsterO6 (Posts: 18; Member since: 25 Jun 2012)
We want Innovation not your hopeless Patents.