Samsung's S Cloud may launch along with Tizen 3.0 next year
0. phoneArena 23 Aug 2013, 22:02 posted on
Yesterday, word came out that Samsung's Developer Conference that's planned for the end of October may see the official launch of Tizen and the first Tizen handset. But, it may bring more than that, because the rumors have surfaced that Samsung may also finally have the end in site for its long-awaited answer to iCloud, which is obviously called S Cloud...
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1. joey_sfb (Posts: 1973; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
Reinventing the wheel Samsung should think about value adding or new compelling services. Competing with dropbox, box, skydive, drive....etc add no value to their customer and take up their resources.
Tizen is really a long shot even for Samsung. I hate underdog product and would not put down my money for less.
3. HansGoneInsane (Posts: 270; Member since: 09 Aug 2013)
Totally agree. Samsung should focus on what they can, which is building high-end hardware for a good price. Samsung does not stand a chance vs. Google, MS or Apple when it comes to software. I also don't think that Tizen will be a great hit. There is not enough space for more then 3 big players in the mobile OS market.
6. ianbbaa (Posts: 194; Member since: 20 Mar 2013)
even did not seen the first device and call it underdog product...believe, first device will be a mid range device, where "average Joe" will get a neat device, with good camera, at the time of launch he will get angry birds and facebook (cr)app from some App store with XY apps in it,..this guy will never care about antutu house numbers, but as soon as some decent quantity will be sold, new devices, deverlopers interest will be bringing the platform to the better and better devices...
8. joey_sfb (Posts: 1973; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
Anything less than the gold standard set by Android Jelly bean is an underdog device. Moving forward I expect even more like Google glasses and capable smartwatch after all I am paying for it.
2. rusticguy (Posts: 2810; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
Ok so now Koreans would want user data for spying?
Only idiots would use CLOUD. Anything that's offered FREE operates on "SELL YOUR SOUL" business model.
4. HansGoneInsane (Posts: 270; Member since: 09 Aug 2013)
Samsung is in a strategic weak position that is why they desperately try to bring their own OS (Samsung invested into Tizen) to the market. Samsung knows very well that they have already passed their zenith in the smartphone market. This is due to being limited to an hardware maker. Samsung was the first and only alternative to iOS. That resulted in great hardware sales. But now that more and more other hardware makers enter the Android market with even more beautiful designed devices like the HTC One or the Sony Experia Z line, Samsung won't be able to sell anymore the amount of devices they are used to. Potential customers can change the Android hardware freely because all the apps they like are available for all Android devices and that applies as well to already paid for apps. The problem is that Samsung can't do anything about it. Copying successful hardware, which is Samsung's core competency (I don't mean iPhone here only but rather TVs like Samsung did with Sony in their joint venture and many other devices), does not apply to Software. Tizen will get to 1 - 2% of the market share, not more because Android, WP8 and iOS are simply too strong and have already a great eco system surrounding them. Furthermore they are developed by companies that do Software for decades. Fun is over for Samsung.
5. ianbbaa (Posts: 194; Member since: 20 Mar 2013)
You are a "bit" wrong...SAMSUNG is not software company as you wrote - for PC OSes, thats right, but you forgot that we talk about phones where SAMSUNG is the most "innovative" software company. They have the most "advanced" build on top of android on the market - called TouchWizz, it looks kinda cartoonish and feels laggy - launcher mainly. Somebody call it bloatware and probably 80% of it is bloatware but:
SAMSUNG android phones in compare to other android makers even other mobile OSes have:
-best email client with best Exchange support. - Sammys coders did it.
- multiwindow - they were first that coded this, other will follow.
- Note 10 tablet - windowing apps like in Windows PCs.
- S-Note with their Spen devices - first, other alternative products getting better right after.
- General use of Spen within android OS - try it if you dont know what i am talking about!
- etc etc
That means, even you might call it bloatware, or you prefer clean android - SAMSUNG is not a weak "coder" in any way.
They are able to make TIZEN to be strong and competitive to android, it wont be on TOP because android will be here as an alternative for all other chinese brands, HTC, SONY, LG...but, the cards might change in the future and we might see the first 3 positions in the charts will be getting:
Apple + iOS
Samsung + TIZEN
Nokia + WP
4.Other makers + Android.
9. HansGoneInsane (Posts: 270; Member since: 09 Aug 2013)
Samsung also coded its software for feature phones. But also an Android "addon" is nothing compared to a whole OS especially if others like MS or Apple code entire OS for PCs and Macs respectively since decades. You also need to take the quality of coding into account. Apple and MS created an OS that required much lower specs to run smoothly with the same features as Android. Moreover you need to take the software ecosystem built around your devices into account. This ecosystem is what bounds your customers to your devices. Samsung is aware of this weakness but can't offer something like this. Tizen won't be able to compete on an ecosystem level with iOS, Android or WP8. Samsung knows about its weakness and tries to change it, but I think they can't change it because there are simply other more experienced and more powerful players out there. Of course the future is not set but a lot points to the scenario in which Samsung will become a company among many others in the Android world.
12. Doakie (Posts: 841; Member since: 06 May 2009)
I highly doubt Tizen will ever take a spot in the top three OS'. The momentum behind Android and the fact that Google provides the background services for free is such a strong combination that I can't see Samsung abandoning their proven successful strategy. Tizen most likely will slot underneath to compete with the Nokia Asha or Firefox phones on the cheapest end. Because the time and money needed to develop competing applications for services like Google Maps or Gmail would be very costly.
7. AfterShock (Posts: 1250; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)
Tizen will fail in first world countries.
It's market is a given, where it may gain a large foothold but will be up against others in low end market like WP an BB, Nokia has seemingly best in class budget phones.
Good luck SS, I guess you can spam that market with billions until it takes.
11. rusticguy (Posts: 2810; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
Nokia would have been long dead if it relied only on "First World" countries.
10. Long1 (banned) (Posts: 399; Member since: 18 May 2013)
Tizen is someting else , than phone OS. Do not compare this with Bada or iOS. Besides Intel is also in this game.
I've read that it's PC OS too. X86