Samsung's Magazine UX can't be "turned off" on the Galaxy TabPRO and NotePRO
0. phoneArena 04 Feb 2014, 14:21 posted on
The new Magazine UX is here to stay, despite rumors to the contrary. Samsung's latest high-end Android tablets have the UX pre-installed, and users won't be able to disable it completely...
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1. GeekMovement (Posts: 2140; Member since: 09 Sep 2011)
I'm pretty interested in Samsung's new magazine UX, but I do feel that they could work on the design aspect a little more too.
3. Finalflash (Posts: 2769; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)
Chameleon looks so much better and it has a similar design philosophy. They will learn the same lesson HTC learned with blink feed, no one wants you to break that which does not need fixing.
5. Commentator (Posts: 3665; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
Blinkfeed was a good idea in theory, but it was way too limited in scope. Google did better with the Google Experience Launcher, although I'd like to be able to personalize the dedicated "Now" page a bit more as well.
8. Finalflash (Posts: 2769; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)
Customization aside, the mandatory nature of the UX is what needs fixing. They should make it optional because not everyone will want it. To force it on people just means you have no faith in it being good and likewise, have to make them like it.
2. Finalflash (Posts: 2769; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)
.....What kinda travesty is this? Of course you can turn it off, this is Android not iOS or WP. You just wipe the fool and install a custom rom which will easily fix most problems. A different launcher might also fix that problem if it isn't too deeply engrained in the OS.
9. bigstrudel (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)
Sure. For now. Until Root gets broken by the next major update. And there won't be any custom Roms if nobody buys this overpriced junk.
17. Finalflash (Posts: 2769; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)
They don't usually break root and also, custom recoveries will inject it for you at every major update. Also, the custom roms have their own updates which hit much faster than OEM updates. Finally, I am assuming you don't actually know how that works so you won't get anything I just said (sounds like you think it is like jail-breaking).
26. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
Why should something have to be rooted or modified?
Shouldn't we expect for companies to make things right the first time?.. I mean what kind of products are we buying when they have to be "fixed" the day we get them?
31. Finalflash (Posts: 2769; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)
The hell are you smoking, nothing is "right" for everyone, that is why Android is so popular with the majority of humanity. If I wanted to be made subservient to the tastes of someone else I would have an iOS or WP device (although you could also have an Android device and just force yourself to use the disliked UI like some kinda masochist).
45. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
Who said that you have to get a iOS, or WP?.. I didn't..
You sound like you have the mindset that you have to get iOS, or WP, to get something that's made right from the beginning.... That's your perception?
32. Ant34 (Posts: 193; Member since: 10 Aug 2013)
I'm not a fan of Touchwiz at all and the first thing I do is install Nova Launcher on any Samsung device. Second, any interface starts to get boring after a while so launchers and rooting breathes new life into the device.
50. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
Why? Because no device is perfect, and I like to modify a phone's software, which requires rooting (and unlocking the bootloader, in some cases).
67. marbovo (Posts: 658; Member since: 16 May 2013)
Are you envy because you can't do that?!?!
4. _Bone_ (Posts: 2154; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
Why would you turn off something that's actually, really is good? You still have icon rows and widget space if you like, or you may run a custom launcher to go back in time, but the point of the PRO series is the UI getting pro too (and God knows how much tabs need to break away from the superlarge phone concept). Cause you know... app drawer icons of the same apps, home screen icons of the same apps, homescreen widgets of the same apps, lockscreen widgets of the same apps... that's 300% too many of the same thing, and Samsung's idea is to make the 8-10-12" space actually USEFUL.
But then again, Samsung is actually NOT stopping you to have menu icons, home screen icons, home screen widgets and lockscreen widgets all over the place, if you are some sort of weirdo...
19. Finalflash (Posts: 2769; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)
That is all fine and great....it just shouldn't be mandatory.
27. _Bone_ (Posts: 2154; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
Makes as much sense as turning iOS off on an Apple device. That's Samsung's layout, deal with it. However it's also Android, so you may do whatever you want with it, say get a "normal" launcher and bloat the home screens with redundancy, if that's floats your boat.
28. MrJerry (Posts: 403; Member since: 05 Oct 2012)
Well said mate.
Normally people dont like changes in the beginning.
But they will love it eventually.
I cant wait to try it!
34. Ant34 (Posts: 193; Member since: 10 Aug 2013)
I'm more of a minimalistic guy. The less the better. I won't be getting this device unless they release a Google Play edition.
46. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
Well said!!!! To many Android fans think that stuff needs to be changed just for the sake of changing something...
6. PorkyBurger (Posts: 585; Member since: 18 May 2013)
As long as it looks good (IMO, it looks very nice), I have nothing to bother about.
Galaxy TabPRO 8.4, can't wait to get youuuu~!!! :D
Wait a sec, Samsung will not kill Mag UX after all? GREAT.
7. PorkyBurger (Posts: 585; Member since: 18 May 2013)
But I really hope Samsung will kill most of it's bloatware...
14. bigstrudel (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)
Unfortunately Samsung would prefer you to use their bloatware instead the Google Play suite.
15. PorkyBurger (Posts: 585; Member since: 18 May 2013)
Awwwwwwww, that kind of sucks.
But still, lets HoPe for the best. :
21. rd_nest (Posts: 1591; Member since: 06 Jun 2010)
Nope.. Magazine UX will be there. Quoted from today's press release:
"All tablets in the Note Pro and Tab Pro series are outfitted with Magazine UX..."
10. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
And so many people say the Metro design language is horrible....
It's good enough for it to be emulated by so many...
18. Finalflash (Posts: 2769; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)
Well people haven't called for its out right removal from their device yet so it hasn't gotten Metro bad, but we shall see when it launches if it will ever reach that level of outcry.
29. rd_nest (Posts: 1591; Member since: 06 Jun 2010)
Metro is MS's take on Flat UI design. It's just one way to look at Flat UI.
Anything with flat UI doesn't mean it's metro.
The history of flat UI is quite old, though it has recently become more popular.
For example, this is a flat design for milk container (!!). It's not Metro, but it's flat.
This following site lists some amazing flat design sites, designers:
Go have a look, you will enjoy it. There are tons of more examples of flat UI. Just because MS also uses a Metro UI, doesn't mean others can't use it.
47. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
But, honestly, and I want you to be honest.. When did we start to see other companies using this design so much?
64. rd_nest (Posts: 1591; Member since: 06 Jun 2010)
You don't need to try so hard.
I had already written in my above post:
"The history of flat UI is quite old, though it has recently become more popular..."
WP is flat, Android from ICS 4.0 is flat. iOS7 is flat. There you have it.
68. marbovo (Posts: 658; Member since: 16 May 2013)
I dont agree here, Metro is not about flat, it is about tiles, It does´t matter if it is flat or have shades, or 3D aspect or whatsoever... The living tiles are the diference between WP and iOS or android
63. NokiaFTW (Posts: 2071; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)
I think these fandroids egos are being hurt since their favorite manufacturers are copying an OS which in their opinion has no traction.
13. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
This is Android, not iOS or MS OS, so anything can be customized...deleted...etc.
16. Liveitup (Posts: 1798; Member since: 07 Jan 2014)
It does not matter that Android is flexible, its clear that this is the default homescreen, pretty much an imitation of Metro which so many Android fans has bashed.
23. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
Yeah, but now they will say it's good.. Lol.
48. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
Because that's just how people are.. Hypocrites..
51. Awalker (Posts: 1394; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)
Most Android users on tech sites don't like the Windows interface so most won't like this. But the interface reminds me more of flipboard than the Windows UI which I don't like at all.
57. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
Good thing those users are a drop in the buck compared to the amount of average consumers who don't give a flip.
25. Hyperreal (Posts: 223; Member since: 08 Oct 2013)
but now samsung introduced it and everybody is happy. I remember when htc did that. so much hate then.
39. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
I can download a Metro launcher on the playstore, or any other ones - it is a matter of choice
40. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
I tried a Metro launcher - it was ok - kind of neat
52. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
It matters very much that Android is 'flexible'....
62. sbw44 (Posts: 433; Member since: 04 Dec 2012)
These Droids will always see good in Android even if they had to steal stuff cough HTC cough
69. xfire99 (Posts: 792; Member since: 14 Mar 2012)
Go and google Chamelon UI and stop the crap its imitation of Metro UI. If this is imitation of Metro UI and then Metro UI is a imitaion of Chamelon UI.
20. domfonusr (Posts: 384; Member since: 17 Jan 2014)
So, what concessions did Samsung actually make in reference to Google? Google gave up Motorola. Samsung, however, has not given up anything, including both Tizen and Magazine UX. Not that either Tizen or Magazine UX are bad or anything like that, but one must ask. It just seems like Google caved, and Samsung made hollow pretend statements about loyalty.
24. Commentator (Posts: 3665; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
I think Google cares more about Samsung's proprietary apps for music, gaming, news, etc. and I wouldn't be surprised to see them gone. As long as Samsung is promoting Google services through Magazine and not their own, I don't think Google could care less what it looks like.
33. greathero1 (Posts: 563; Member since: 13 Jun 2008)
I don't think either made any concessions or even talked about Samsung's UI. The statement released by both only pertained to cross licensing patents. Everybody else started adding talking points without having any knowledge pertaining to that. If Samsung and Google made a deal on this particular issue, then it certainly would have came out at the deal announcement. I also think Samsung would be a fool to scrap its UI. That is how it differentiates itself away from the pack and even though it was not perfect, it is one hell of a UI and I would take it any day over Sony's, Huawai, or LG's.
30. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
Come on a simple launcher from the play store will literally hide the magazine ux which is essentially just another launcher so this talk of how it is forced on you is bs. If you want the stock Homescreen just use nova and you never have to see the magazine ux ever again.
36. Ant34 (Posts: 193; Member since: 10 Aug 2013)
Or you can simply not purchase the device and I'm sure many will do just that.
37. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
Exactly, the magazine ui is front and centre so people who may buy it know what they are getting. I think it's a bit stupid that this is news. It's like someone buying a w8 laptop and then upset that there laptop has the metro ui.
38. Awalker (Posts: 1394; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)
It's disappointing that Samsung keeps moving further away from stock. I like their hardware but I just can't get behind their software. I think the S4 will be my last Samsung device.
41. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
Agree that if I had it my way I would prefer stock ui with things like multi view, smart dial etc all added on top without changing the ui but I also have no issue with what Samsung is doing. We have to remember Android was intended to be used as a Base model and for others to do with it as they wish. It's what Imo is great about Android which is they don't all have to look the same. Android has essentially created multiple os's from tw to sense and we should be happy for that. I just think if all from day 1 of Android all Android looked the same then we probably wouldn't be where we are today with Android and I just think it's wrong that the minority who love stock ui now demand for all ui to be stock now that skins have helped propel Android.. Let's be honest early versions of Android until ics was ugly so now just because Android looks nice now shouldn't mean that skins should go away.. Btw am not saying you are one of these people but seems like people who like nexus think this should be the case. I have a nexus 7 and s4 so I know skinned and stock android and personally I have no issues with skin as they do bring there own benefit and may actually look more friendly to the casual consumer but I also like the look of kk so as I said if I had it my way it would be kk with tw features added on top without changing the whole look but I can certainly see the need for these skins as even stock android is definitely not going to be for everyone.
42. Ant34 (Posts: 193; Member since: 10 Aug 2013)
That's one of several problems - their skins impede updates and the amount of bloat they put into the phone bogs it down. I have four phones - the S4, the Moto X, Nexus 4 and 5. The S4 runs the slowest out of the 4 even though it has the second best specs. That's unacceptable to me.
What they should do is remove Touchwiz and most of the bloat and put them in the play store. If consumers want it they'll download it.