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Samsung's Galaxy Note II and its magic S Pen: real innovation or a gimmick?

0. phoneArena 04 Sep 2012, 05:27 posted on

The Samsung Galaxy Note is a monstrous phone in every aspect - it’s got a gigantic 5.5-inch display, a 1.6GHz quad-core processor and runs the latest of Android…

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posted on 04 Sep 2012, 09:04

46. tedkord (Posts: 12321; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


People are confusing innovation with usefulness.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 09:09

48. IamYourFather6657 (Posts: 321; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)


exactly , you are not gonna use more than 1GB of ram on your phone so 2GB is just used to attract dumb consumers into buying this product

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 09:14 3

50. frydaexiii (Posts: 1461; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)


Actually, 1GB is hardly enough for the international S3, especially since I run alot of customisation background software like Lightflow, Big! Caller ID and stuff, leaving very little for foreground apps, resulting in launcher reloads because it has to kill it inorder to make room for the foreground app. 2GB should solve this problem.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 05:50 6

8. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 4005; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)


Magic?? Hell no!! Innovation?? Maybe!!

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 06:03 2

12. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


Example!

Magic: http://hugelol.com/i/10885.gif

Innovation: http://hugelol.com/i/11411.gif

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 06:06 1

13. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 4005; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)


Sorry...i can't access the link!!!
But i got the idea!! :D

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 06:19 2

16. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


Can't access link ? Sad. :(

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 07:10 3

33. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


Just copy and paste links in to your internet browser's address field and hit enter. :)

posted on 05 Sep 2012, 06:59

64. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 4005; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)


Hahaha...saw it!! Dang! :D

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 05:55 6

9. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


Love the Note, had it for 9month's, and liking it.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 06:00 6

11. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


Magic = No
Innovation = Nothing new

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 06:08 2

14. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 4005; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)


Agreed...we have seen it when the first note arrived...nothing new!!

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 06:30 1

22. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 4005; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)


I guess there is a samsung S-pen fan trolling around here!! :D

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 06:18 5

15. PackMan (Posts: 277; Member since: 09 Mar 2012)


What a stupid poll.
Those hundreds of capacitive stylii for iPhone and iPads are a gimmick.
S-pen in Note II is an improvement as it has higher pressure sensitivity and some more.
And lol at people comparing S-Pen it with finger.
You can't beat the S-Pen and wacom digitizer with finger and capacitive stylus.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 06:19

18. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


True.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 06:19 5

17. hateftotti (Posts: 202; Member since: 03 May 2011)


Just hope those,who said Galaxy Note 2 is not innovative device,NOT consider new iphone as an innovation because after that I will consider them as idiots...

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 06:23 4

19. CX3NT3_713 (Posts: 2283; Member since: 18 Apr 2011)


Oh iPhones arent innovating at all. It just works :-\

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 06:26 4

21. speckledapple (Posts: 892; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)


I think it is partly innovation because although we can all use just about any of those cheap rubber tipped touch pens on our touchscreens, it doesnt ever really do enough. Back in the day of the PDA, productivity really did matter to those who had it. And regardless of the screen tech there just has not been as much of a focus on it today. Bringing back the ability to really be productive with a pen BUT with additional software to make that experience much better, that is bringing back something that we gained with our powerful devices.

Upgraded screens and internals are great but they are more expected year after year. No one expects to have a less powerful device than they did a year ago. But being more productive?; thats something that is coming back with devices like that.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 06:42 3

26. Victor.H (Posts: 684; Member since: 27 May 2011)


I'd agree with you about productivity and innovation. Still one thing that nags me about all sorts of styluses right now and productivity is that terrible delay between when you touch and when the image actually changes. Technically, it's 50ms to 100ms, and it's really annoying if you're trying to jot down notes with a stylus and your handwriting follows you slowly and you have to wait to doublecheck whether you haven't made a mistake...
Here's an explanation:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Microsoft-shows-whats-needed-to-solve-visible-touchscreen-delay_id27879

is that something that someone finds to be as much of an annoyance as I do?

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 06:56

28. speckledapple (Posts: 892; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)


You do have a point. And that is a prime example of what manufactureres should be working on, the overall experience improvement rather than those performance upgrades that are great and all but do nada to move things along more. Increased response is crucial as we can all understand that touchscreens will be much more immersive to us going forward.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 06:36 5

23. frydaexiii (Posts: 1461; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)


I call it innovation, because it took some risk to bring it to the market.

Was there a chance that a 5 inch phone would not sell? Yes definitely, but it did sell well.

Was there a way to make the once rendered pointless stylus useful again without suffering backlash? Yes, and Samsung did it well.

Thus, innovation. Which is why I only considered the first and 3rd iPhones as innovation, because it took great risk to try to bring smartphones to the masses, and Apple did it, everything else was just built off this success without much improvements.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 06:41 4

25. voxmarc (Posts: 332; Member since: 22 Aug 2012)


for Victor,anything made by Apple is innovation....the rest questionable.....whoah...i smell rotten fruit in this article..

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 06:57

29. whysoserious (Posts: 318; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)


I'm surprised to see an almost 50-50 result on this poll. When mobile companies develop new features, people thinks it's either lame or just a gimmick. But when they develop top specs like mulit-core phones with high ram, people would say it's useless.

Can anybody give one more palm on my face, please? Double facepalm is not enough for this.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 07:06

32. redmd (Posts: 1279; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)


And I'm more surprised you forgot this is phonearena.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 08:42 3

41. SlimSoulja86 (Posts: 660; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)


I think it's the same thing back in the days when people thought it was pointless to have a cheap camera on your phone that took bad pictures. People always don't look at the bigger picture here, that something needs to start somewhere, everything becomes gimmick when it is first released to the masses, until we all start using it and make it part of our lives. Same thing with social networks. I know people and articles written that Social Media is useless and it' a bad thing for businesses and Media Industry, Until people have realized how good it can be to actually help the Media industry.

My point here is that, we always think that things are just gimmick, until we integrate them into our lives and then realize how we lived without them. S-Pan might be a gimmick to someone who is just happy to use their fingers on the screen, but might be a powerful tool for someone who likes taking notes with a pan, as it can be a struggle to type on a touch screen for them, or someone who is always carrying a notepad to scrabble things, as this will make it easier for them to start something on their Note II and finish it off on the PC.

Just Saying.

Damn I'm commenting too much on PA today. Feel like writing an article

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 09:11

49. frydaexiii (Posts: 1461; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)


I like the way you think...Would give more thumbs up if I could.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 07:03 3

30. redmd (Posts: 1279; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)


The big screen is the innovation, the s pen is just a bonus to go with it. I don't use it everyday but it comes handy when the right occasion arises. I think only a few of those 10 million users only bought the note 1 for it's s pen. To call it a gimmick is somewhat a fanboy hate.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 07:16 2

34. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


Hey Victor, I think The Stylus is a great Tool and it's quite innovative, my only wish would be if it was something the whole android ecosystem could USE then It would be something amazing, Imagine Samsung and others selling this for any android device with a 25-50 price point and android will support it naively, Heck they could even sell apps on the playstore made for users to download, as long as is something not all developers can adopt then even if its nice, its not good enough, yeah manufacturers could add "Pen" supports to their Apps and we could see a new spin on this things.

the S-pen is quite interesting, but is not for everyone, some features are quite gimmicky, but the core idea of an incredibly pressie pen capable of noting clipping creating out of anything is something no current OS could do. plus the way it helps people draw and do other stuff is really nifty.

Now where is my 7" Note? SAMSUNG?

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 09:00 1

43. Victor.H (Posts: 684; Member since: 27 May 2011)


Great point about the whole Android ecosystem, the S Pen and Samsung. It seems that for better or worse Samsung has been working a lot on tweaking and customizing Android with things like the stylus integration, but finally those features never arrive on the platform as a whole.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 11:29 1

56. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


samsung could make more money by having Google adopt the Pen Natively and Selling its apps for non samsung Devices on the play store

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