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Samsung's Director of Marketing, System LSI, talks Exynos 5 Octa

0. phoneArena 21 Jan 2013, 08:03 posted on

We're seeing tons of innovation in the mobile CPU space lately, and this shouldn't really surprise anyone. These little chips are at the core of the amazing experience that our smartphones present us with. That's why we welcomed the opportunity to have a chat with Samsung's Director of Marketing, System LSI, Akshay Agarwal - a person who's pretty well informed about Samsung's doings and intentions as far as silicon goes...

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posted on 21 Jan 2013, 08:16

1. Joshing4fun (Posts: 1037; Member since: 13 Aug 2010)


Why wouldn't other OEMs want to use this chip? i really don't get that.

posted on 21 Jan 2013, 08:29 5

3. MeoCao (unregistered)


The obvious thing is price, it will not be cheap.

But the bigger reason is phone makers depend heavily on chip makers for software optimisation, modems.. while SS is the biggest competitors to any phone maker.

This marketing guy try to convince people that they and SS Mobile are independent but I doubt many believe him.

posted on 21 Jan 2013, 08:34 1

5. AppleHateBoy (Posts: 444; Member since: 29 Feb 2012)


Why doesn't Samsung use it's own chipsets in their cheaper phones. For eg. Samsung should have used Exynos 4 Dual in the Galaxy S3 Mini. The performance would have been far better.

posted on 21 Jan 2013, 08:21 2

2. AppleHateBoy (Posts: 444; Member since: 29 Feb 2012)


I just wish it uses ARM Mali-T604. It's performance would be even better on the Galaxy S4, since the Galaxy S4's screen has half the number of pixels vs. Nexus 10's screen.

If it uses Mali-T658, it would be even better, but T604 should be more than sufficient if it is optimized well.

posted on 21 Jan 2013, 08:33 2

4. Lyngdoh (Posts: 210; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)


Exynos 5 octa = 808 pureview. Killing the competion too early.

posted on 21 Jan 2013, 09:00 12

6. DKMDROID (Posts: 102; Member since: 09 Aug 2011)


How are those two even related they are in noway related so why even say that

posted on 21 Jan 2013, 09:19

8. lkjhg755 (Posts: 85; Member since: 21 Nov 2012)


Both of them are going too far above and beyond to destroy competition that doesnt exist yet.

posted on 21 Jan 2013, 09:32 2

9. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 4595; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


How it will destroy competition, in which way???

Vice versa, it will stimulate competition because other will be forced to catch up.

posted on 21 Jan 2013, 09:33

10. wando77 (Posts: 253; Member since: 23 Aug 2012)


So you basically have an apple mentality and believe in incremental updates to technology?

posted on 21 Jan 2013, 12:37 4

18. cripton805 (Posts: 907; Member since: 18 Mar 2012)


its just iDiots taking a new form.

posted on 21 Jan 2013, 21:22

25. Lyngdoh (Posts: 210; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)


IMO samsung is too early releasing octa core. They should increase frequency and efficiency rather than just increase the number of cores and about the 808 Pureview, its also the number game. 41mp camera is beyond the proper limit of today's trend when 8mp is doing just great. Competition is always there it just seems like they are scared of being defeated. Its just like having two kids and employing 8 nannies to look after them.

posted on 21 Jan 2013, 09:04 7

7. Bernoulli (Posts: 1396; Member since: 01 Sep 2012)


What are you talking about?

posted on 21 Jan 2013, 13:29 1

20. HDShatter (Posts: 1014; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)


More cores does not mean better. Look at the amd fx-8350 vs an i7, ya specs wise it should destroy the i5 but they are better in less than 1% of applications because barely anything can use more power than 4 cores and intel bet on per core performance which is much better than adding more cores.

posted on 21 Jan 2013, 14:03

23. T.R.O.L.L (banned) (Posts: 51; Member since: 20 Jan 2013)


Cause the software isn't optimised to handle or let 8 cores do the works So if you had 20+ programs as active each CPU will utilise to push; 1 the screen, 2 the OS, 3 for the programs that are active, 4 for the net, 5 for the ....... edd etc®

posted on 22 Jan 2013, 00:30

27. zazori08 (Posts: 113; Member since: 21 Dec 2011)


the 808's OS is not optimized for multi-core processors, and if it's even optimized. they will not have fun tinkering with the software. and symbian does not really need multi-core since it's smooth even with just a single core processor.

posted on 21 Jan 2013, 09:44 3

11. SamsungFan (Posts: 201; Member since: 16 Apr 2012)


Exynos 5 octa is the best chip available in the market

posted on 21 Jan 2013, 10:06 6

12. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 4595; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


Does Exynos 5 Octa is already available in the market???

posted on 21 Jan 2013, 10:11 1

13. SamsungFan (Posts: 201; Member since: 16 Apr 2012)


I mean it is the best when comparing with other a15 processors like Tegra 4 and snapdragon 800 and samsung outed the first cortex a15 processor in nexus 10

posted on 21 Jan 2013, 10:14 2

14. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 4595; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


I see. ;)

posted on 21 Jan 2013, 11:13

16. T.R.O.L.L (banned) (Posts: 51; Member since: 20 Jan 2013)


All 8 cores should EV been A15s, and CPU load should EV been running at pegusues, not on-deman. This chip Samsung should EV clocked it at 2.5Ghz, so you can feel the Turbo kicking in just like the i7 Intel chips®

posted on 21 Jan 2013, 21:26 2

26. Lyngdoh (Posts: 210; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)


How do you know its the best when there's no benchmark comparisons yet? None of the above processors are out yet. This means that you are just assuming.

posted on 22 Jan 2013, 05:30

28. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 4595; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


He is not assuming, he is trolling same as he did in comment #11.

posted on 21 Jan 2013, 13:31 1

21. HDShatter (Posts: 1014; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)


8 core arm still slower than intels worst tablet processor.

posted on 21 Jan 2013, 11:10 4

15. jo_Ny (Posts: 27; Member since: 05 Sep 2012)


Here we go, samsung at its finest = marketing twisters. Just because it features 8 cores doesnt mean it's a true Octa-core processor. Exynos 5 Octa is NOT able to run more than 4 cores at the same time. Whenever one A15 core light up there's one A7 that shuts down. If the tasks are heavy, A15s fire up and A7s shut down. It's called big.LITTLE Task Migration. And the tech media are buying and thus misinforming everyone. Oh and the way Nvidia implements its companion core is NOT (at all) comparable to the big.LITTLE 4+4 solution by samsung.

posted on 21 Jan 2013, 11:16

17. T.R.O.L.L (banned) (Posts: 51; Member since: 20 Jan 2013)


Well for techies and advance users can Root there device and download a software that will give you an option to have all 8 CPUs or its up to you to have how many you want to keep active. Cool and very smart of them ®

posted on 21 Jan 2013, 12:40 1

19. cripton805 (Posts: 907; Member since: 18 Mar 2012)


How many cores are on the chip and how many will it be using regardless?

it will be using all 8. Doesnt matter if its all or some. It still has use of all 8 of its cores regardless...

Really dumb argument you have.

posted on 21 Jan 2013, 13:33 1

22. HDShatter (Posts: 1014; Member since: 17 Jan 2013)


8 cores is pointless right now, Intel is the only company that has fixed the threading issues with MIC and MIC is only available on their intel knights corner secondary cpus which are 1 teraflop and cost $2500.

posted on 22 Jan 2013, 07:08

29. jo_Ny (Posts: 27; Member since: 05 Sep 2012)


lol @ cripton805 are you serious or just trolling? Try to understand this: this SoC can never run more that 4 cores at the same time thus is not an Octa-core cpu. You will be allways working in a quad-core environment. 2011 Omap4430 also features 2 cortex-A9 cores AND 2 Cortex-M3 cores but this doesnt make it a Quad-core, now does it?? Before calling dumb to others arguments try to actually get some knowledge about cpu architectures and how they work. Ok??

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 01:36

32. judriod (Posts: 2; Member since: 25 Jan 2013)


rather called a DUAL QUAD core or a Quad duo chips...

posted on 21 Jan 2013, 19:31

24. rcwfox2002 (Posts: 41; Member since: 20 Dec 2011)


Samsung needs to work on a better battery.

posted on 23 Jan 2013, 10:15

30. Dan71 (Posts: 1; Member since: 23 Jan 2013)


Hi all. I made an account on phone arena after reading a part of this article. Here's the reason why:
" He then goes on to explain that the end user doesn't understand or care about the exact type of CPU used, like A9 or A15. It's not reasonable to think that everyone will have enough technical knowledge to make the difference between these technologies, "

So he says, people are dumb. Well, if people are dumb, they ask the ones that know the difference and are not dump and then make the smarter choice.

I know the difference and i have friends that don't know anything about mobile processors and ask me, and everibody, when they buy a new phone about witch one is better. That was the dumbest explination i have ever heard of.

I like samsung products but not all of them, some have such bad specks that the competition is just easyer to chose for the money.(ex owner of samsung galaxy s)

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 01:35

31. judriod (Posts: 2; Member since: 25 Jan 2013)


Exynos 5 Octa is not an OCTA core chip, it is rather better called a DUAL QUAD core chip will be more appropriate.

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