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Samsung's 64-bit Exynos chip ready to hit the conveyor belts, Galaxy S5 a prime candidate

0. phoneArena 25 Oct 2013, 09:10 posted on

Samsung confirmed at its quarterly results press conference for investors today that the 64-bit Exynos chipset it hinted about is ready for the spotlight. A few "technical preparations" aside, the new silicon should be hitting the conveyor belts this quarter, which means that there is every chance to see it in the upcoming Samsung Galaxy S5 next year....

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posted on 26 Oct 2013, 10:53

72. Windsponge (Posts: 92; Member since: 01 Nov 2009)


You are correct. Apple's use of 64 bit is useless. They sacrificed there old stuff to prepare for a couple years down the road. My IPad 4 is not working correctly and I got rid of I Phone 5 and bought note 3. Which I love. It happens all the time, if the whole system isn't ready it will not work correctly.

posted on 25 Oct 2013, 12:51

56. livyatan (Posts: 867; Member since: 19 Jun 2013)


Forget the 64bit!
It is simply a natural consequence of ARM v8 architecture being 64bit, nothing more.
Hadn't stupid journalists made a big deal out of it because of apple's marketing, it would be barely mentioned.

What makes this chip beyond amazing, if the rumors are true, is the 14NM PROCESS, and the said A53/A57 combination.

If you're not aware of the implications of it, just imagine the following - about 2-3 times the performance of the Snapdragon 800, AT HALF THE POWER CONSUMPTION.

This should truly be epic.

posted on 25 Oct 2013, 14:03

60. NexusPhan (Posts: 625; Member since: 11 Jul 2013)


I'm well aware of the hardware benefits that come with a reduced nano-meter process. I was arguing that the 64 bit part of it was useless right now.
Looks like Android 4.4 will come with the 3.10 Linux kernel which, it looks like, begins to bring 64 bit support.

posted on 25 Oct 2013, 13:00

58. g2a5b0e (Posts: 3725; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)


Not quite. The Galaxy Nexus was the first phone announced with a 720 screen. The Rezound beat it to market by a few days.

posted on 25 Oct 2013, 12:51

57. Shatter (Posts: 2036; Member since: 29 May 2013)


Ddr4 for desktops is being produced right now, should be on sale after the first boards come out that use it.

posted on 25 Oct 2013, 10:05 1

29. Penywyz (banned) (Posts: 255; Member since: 13 Aug 2013)


A 64 bit processor needs 4GB of RAM not DDR4 to be useful. The iPhone has neither, so you are correct NexusPhan it's a useless piece of hardware for now.

posted on 25 Oct 2013, 10:26 1

37. NexusPhan (Posts: 625; Member since: 11 Jul 2013)


Thanks. I agree that down the road there will be a use (maybe even a need). But we are a long way from that time. I guess that was my only point.

posted on 25 Oct 2013, 10:28 1

38. Penywyz (banned) (Posts: 255; Member since: 13 Aug 2013)


Yeah, I don't really get what the point of starting an argument about that was. LoL

posted on 25 Oct 2013, 10:31 1

39. NexusPhan (Posts: 625; Member since: 11 Jul 2013)


Slow day at work is the only reason. Haha.

posted on 25 Oct 2013, 10:37 1

40. Penywyz (banned) (Posts: 255; Member since: 13 Aug 2013)


Haha, that wasn't directed at you though. That's usually when I'm on here is when it's slow at the office.

posted on 25 Oct 2013, 12:06

52. Ninetysix (Posts: 2460; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)


You would have saved yourself from looking like a dummy if you have only read the review at anandtech.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7335/the-iphone-5s-review/4

posted on 25 Oct 2013, 12:08 1

53. bigstrudel (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)


The 64 bit automatically comes along with the Arm V8 architecture which is where the general performance gains come from.

If you don't know what that means than stop talking about the 64 bit transition.

posted on 25 Oct 2013, 16:09

66. Shatter (Posts: 2036; Member since: 29 May 2013)


People will still credit Apple for you no matter what you say. The A7 was not made/ and its partially designed by Apple, they pay Samsung to make it for them and do all the research.

posted on 25 Oct 2013, 16:21 1

69. Ninetysix (Posts: 2460; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)


Do you give credit to TSMC for producing Qualcomm, Nvidia, & AMD chips? No? That's what I thought.

posted on 25 Oct 2013, 11:37

50. saffant (Posts: 274; Member since: 04 Jul 2011)


FAIL. Go read the anandtech review. The 64 bit isn't just a gimmick. It's an entirely new architecture which happens to use 64 bit (for future proofing as well as perf improvements). This allows for bigger registers, more memory bandwidth, and overall a more efficient system. Go read that review before you talk trash.

posted on 25 Oct 2013, 14:11 1

64. NexusPhan (Posts: 625; Member since: 11 Jul 2013)


The article is all about how great ARMv8 is. Not 64 bit per say. ARMv8 is the real advancement here. It just happens to be 64 bit. Apple and 64 bit are not the ones who deserve credit and praise here. It's ARM.

posted on 25 Oct 2013, 09:20 7

6. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10457; Member since: 14 May 2012)


Samsung isn't going to announce the S5 in January.. The S4 already reached the 40 million mark, and they're going to stop that number from rising? Nope.

posted on 25 Oct 2013, 09:42

12. tech2 (Posts: 3475; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


Phonearena, before publishing 40 million sales news :

'Samsung may be rushing the Galaxy S5 along due to weaker than expected S4 sales'

after the news:

'Said Galaxy S5 is rumored to be pulled forward due to increased pressure from the competition'

No integrity !

posted on 25 Oct 2013, 09:42 1

13. xfire99 (Posts: 872; Member since: 14 Mar 2012)


They considering release S5 at Jan, coz the low sales of S4 and Sammy hopes for a 100M units sales. But it comes too big disappointment for them, since it "only" sales for 40m units so far.

posted on 25 Oct 2013, 09:45 4

16. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10457; Member since: 14 May 2012)


40 million units for ONE model in a matter of 6 months is bad? What?

posted on 25 Oct 2013, 14:02

59. pkiran1996 (Posts: 166; Member since: 22 Oct 2011)


What xfire99 is trying to say is that Samsung considers 40m as 'low' because their expectation was 100m. As a number, 40m is massive and commendable. But from the sellers perspective, they've sold 60 million less than they should have done (since they were hoping to sell 100 million).
Make sense?

posted on 25 Oct 2013, 09:48 2

18. rantao333 (Posts: 322; Member since: 21 May 2013)


they expect 100 million, and s3 already hit 60 million last year. so judging by the market growth, s4 is actually not selling that well.

posted on 25 Oct 2013, 09:52 4

22. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10457; Member since: 14 May 2012)


Name an Android model that has sold over 30 million besides Samsung's. I'll wait.

posted on 25 Oct 2013, 10:42 1

43. xfire99 (Posts: 872; Member since: 14 Mar 2012)


It doesnt matter how many a model have sold, even when its fastest selling smartphone in Samsung's history, when expectations arent met up as predicted and its bad news for a company and they have to do something to please theirs investors. 40m is not even close to 100m expectation.
Sammy is just way too over optimistic for S4 total sales. Why do u think Sammy even considering to release S5 faster, if S4 sales are as Sammy have expected?
A person of view, is not same as a whole company , that have investors to please and expectations to meet up.

posted on 25 Oct 2013, 11:05 2

48. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10457; Member since: 14 May 2012)


That's a rumor, which I'm so damn positive is not true.

100M units is unrealistic as it's going against 100's of other models in the Android world. Selling 40 million in 6 months is over 6 million units a month for just one model, not including the others Samsung produces.

posted on 25 Oct 2013, 11:04

47. nctx77 (Posts: 2095; Member since: 03 Sep 2013)


You need to look at apple if you need an example of how you can break records and people are still disappointed. 40 mil is great, but the s3 was selling the same or better. This was suppose to double s3 sales. It was never going to happen with increased competition. Next year with HTC ONE second gen and iphone 6, it will be a harder year.

posted on 25 Oct 2013, 11:06 1

49. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10457; Member since: 14 May 2012)


Did it meet the 100 mil mark? No, but the accomplishment of selling over 40 million is enough. 50 million by the end of the year would be impressive.

posted on 25 Oct 2013, 16:11

67. Shatter (Posts: 2036; Member since: 29 May 2013)


It will get a sales boost from Christmas.

posted on 25 Oct 2013, 09:49 1

19. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)


Rumors bloggers always have the wrong date and timeline. Samsung announce their phone on the same month the SIV was announced.

posted on 25 Oct 2013, 09:28

7. roldefol (Posts: 4327; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


I'm sure they'll still put a Snapdragon in the S5 for the Americas. Not a bad thing, but I tire of reading on a US-based web site about Exynos processors we rarely experience in a phone.

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