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Samsung will sue Apple immediately if it releases an LTE device, allegedly partnering with Microsoft to cut dependency on Android

0. phoneArena 30 Aug 2012, 08:48 posted on

Samsung’s recent loss in court might have triggered some interesting processes inside the company pushing it to develop closer ties with Microsoft…

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posted on 30 Aug 2012, 12:55 9

96. tbar (Posts: 34; Member since: 18 Jan 2010)

Well, let's see. I have owned an iPhone and an iPad. I currently have a WP7 and an android phone. With that said, my comments are: Apple is not an innovator as they are billed. They are a GREAT marketing firm. Everything they have is copied. They just do a better job of making people think they must have Apple products. Apple is also very hyprocritical. They copied everything but don't want anyone else to use that business model. And finally, as many have said, the patent process is completely broken and ridiculous. Until that gets fixed, we are still going to be dealing with this type of garbage. Personally, I hope the patents that have been granted to Apple and others that shouldn't have been get invalidated by the courts. Then what will Apple do? Their business plan is gone! One question I have asked that has never been answered is this: when a company files for a patent and does not include information that is available that shows prior art or application of technology, why aren't they subject to fines or sanctions????

Bottom line, it's a ridiculous mess because patents are granted that nobody with any common sense or intelligence would grant.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 13:31

97. MARKSPEAR77 (Posts: 40; Member since: 24 Nov 2011)


posted on 30 Aug 2012, 13:34 4

98. lyndon420 (Posts: 4842; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)

Sorry to burst your little bubble, but you have an Android fanatic right here who thinks those Samsung phones looked alot like the crappy iphone. As far as the scrolling and pinch to zoom issues, I think that was apple reaching a little.

Apple had a good day in court yes, but I'm sure they will be feeling the pinch later. And this case did wonders for GS3 sales. (no I'm not a Sammy fan either).

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 14:50 5

100. ncv144 (Posts: 126; Member since: 04 May 2012)

True that, havent seen taco in a long while...

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 20:32

106. bonelyfish (Posts: 1; Member since: 30 Aug 2012)

You implied it was not guilty to steal from a thief? That's non-sense. (Especially Apple added a lot of their own effort and polishing to make the unworkable worked, and Samsung just copied)

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 20:38

107. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)

But but but....I thought if one holds patents they should protect them? isnt that what the Apple fanboys say about Apple?

I guess its ok for Apple top protect their patents...but Samsung cant?

Alrighty then..... :/

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 21:12

110. sakib.ahsan (Posts: 7; Member since: 07 Aug 2012)

Good point. Common sense tells me there are no possibilities of Samsungs LTE patients not being FRAND.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 21:27 1

111. pikapowerize (banned) (Posts: 1869; Member since: 03 May 2012)

i dont know why will they sue apple for LTE... LTE isnt their technology....

apple just want what they own to be their... and copycats should be put to justice!!!

samsung is just stupid!!!

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 21:59

114. remixfa (Posts: 14597; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

im not sure on the logistics of what they hold patentwise either, but obviously they do hold some patents in that area. I'm sure we will find out one way or another pretty soon.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 22:00

115. remixfa (Posts: 14597; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

then you both lack common sense.

If that were true, then Qualcomm's patents on LTE would be FRAND. Those patents are what keep others like samsung and Nvidia from properly integrating LTE on to the baseband chip.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 22:29

117. stealthd (unregistered)

Apple didn't get to where they are by ripping off other people's designs, and that's exactly what Samsung did.

posted on 31 Aug 2012, 11:01

126. ph00ny (Posts: 1378; Member since: 26 May 2011)

Um you do understand that Samsung and Qualcomm have had a long relationship with cross licensing in place?

posted on 01 Sep 2012, 02:02

128. Forsaken77 (Posts: 553; Member since: 09 Jun 2011)

I agree 100%. I prefer Android but think Samsung dug their own hole. The og iPhone was the first smatphone to look the way it does with the fully touchable screen with no buttons. 99% of smatphones use the same design. I'm surprised Apple didn't get a patent for the rectangle phone that's covered by a touch screen from top to bottom. Guess it was too general.

But why can Samsung sue if the iPhone uses LTE? LTE is a service , and it wasn't designed by Samsung.

posted on 01 Sep 2012, 08:09

130. jailbreakstation (Posts: 3; Member since: 01 Sep 2012)

I believe this decision will affect the rights of users as well..

posted on 01 Sep 2012, 12:08 1

131. dragonstkdgirl (Posts: 144; Member since: 07 Apr 2012)

111 thumbs down? Color me impressed. Maybe I should bookmark this article and check back in a week. ;o)

posted on 02 Sep 2012, 04:13

132. Jonathan41 (Posts: 532; Member since: 22 Mar 2012)

Geez, thats a lot of thumbs down.

posted on 07 Sep 2012, 10:01

139. Raymond_htc (Posts: 430; Member since: 06 Apr 2012)

Your note must be abused. poor note... fallen in the wrong hands.

posted on 07 Sep 2012, 10:06

140. Raymond_htc (Posts: 430; Member since: 06 Apr 2012)

Your note must be abused. poor note... fallen in the wrong hands.

posted on 07 Jan 2015, 06:05

145. Latrell567 (Posts: 2; Member since: 07 Jan 2015)

No they did not! Samsung made their success on their own. Samsung's design was their own, and only their own. They didn't follow the crowd, they made what they believed they could do. Apple had to copy Samsung, and Android. Apple copied the 3rd Party Keyboard by Android, Apple copied Samsung and Android's Smart watch idea, Apple copied Lock screen notifications, and a whole lot more. Idk why everyone blames Samsung for everything, but it needs to stop now!!

posted on 07 Jan 2015, 06:07

146. Latrell567 (Posts: 2; Member since: 07 Jan 2015)

Dont you call Samsung stupid. APPLE is stupid for starting this whole war. If they never existed, none of this would of ever started!

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 08:53 3

2. Aeires (unregistered)

Apple needs to keep kicking the hornet's nest. Should have left well alone but they had to be the top dog no matter the cost.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 08:53 11

3. No_Nonsense (unregistered)

Brilliant Samsung, this was bound to happen when Apple was granted a truly ridiculous patent

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 09:42 6

58. Non_Sequitur (Posts: 1111; Member since: 16 Mar 2012)

Apple won 1 billion dollars from a truly ridiculous case involving about 5 icons. I think it's time for Samsung to get payback.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 08:53 6

4. Nikolas.Oliver (banned) (Posts: 1574; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)

apple already has a lte device named The New iPad, why samsung don't sue it ?

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 08:58 7

12. ajac09 (Posts: 1482; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)

The new ipad lacks one piece.. the voice section. They could sue on it bu wouldnt hold as much weight as it will with a full featured phone. We shall see. Lots of mummering is flying that samsung is preparing a counter attack that will make MAD (Mutual assured destruction) look like nothing.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 22:30 1

118. stealthd (unregistered)

LTE isn't used for voice yet. It's just data.

posted on 05 Sep 2012, 16:04

136. LaReina (Posts: 2; Member since: 16 Jun 2012)

Dude, seriously, quit commenting while you have brain cells left because you are losing them as you type. Of course LTE refers to just data, but as was stated above, its the full function and integration of it into a phone thats at the core of ajac09's comment. Now sit down and shut up!

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 08:55 5

7. hung2900 (Posts: 962; Member since: 02 Mar 2012)

1/3 the number of LTE patents belongs to Samsung. Not surprise, but disappointed about the *ucking stupid patent war.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 08:59 15

15. ajac09 (Posts: 1482; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)

apple started it. Samsung probobly wouldnt have cared if apple wasnt playing bully.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 09:04 14

24. frydaexiii (Posts: 1468; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)

Face it, the American court is so corrupt even if Samsung presented all 3/3 of the LTE patents they'd still be in favor of Apple.

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