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Samsung will sue Apple immediately if it releases an LTE device, allegedly partnering with Microsoft to cut dependency on Android

0. phoneArena 30 Aug 2012, 08:48 posted on

Samsung’s recent loss in court might have triggered some interesting processes inside the company pushing it to develop closer ties with Microsoft…

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posted on 30 Aug 2012, 09:13 6

34. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8841; Member since: 14 May 2012)


This is true beyond so many levels.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 09:22 7

45. andro. (Posts: 1971; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)


Let's face it if Samsung released at illuminous yellow pyramid shaped phone with a holographic display and triangular speaker grill and it sold 20-30 million units Apple would still try find some aspect in the device that they could slap copy cat label to and try sue. For apple its not about the products design that it feels threatened its about how well it sells and how much it threatens apples market share while also showing up apples stagnant device progressions. Ultimately knowing the bizarreness of the US courts they would still find in favour of Apple against such pyramid shaped device lol!!!

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 10:56 1

74. The_Innovation (Posts: 567; Member since: 18 Jul 2012)


We look out for our own. This isn't necessarily a bad thing.

:X

But with Apple, it is. It's slowing down the entire industry.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 10:57

76. The_Innovation (Posts: 567; Member since: 18 Jul 2012)


By the way, if for whatever reason, Google and Samsung sue each other, the courts would defend our so beloved Android provider Google, same as they did with Apple.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 08:57 10

10. Nikolas.Oliver (banned) (Posts: 1574; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)


go samsung!

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 08:58

11. frydaexiii (Posts: 1239; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)


Boo, why Microsoft? Thats just as bad as teaming up with Apple.

Blame Google for ditching Samsung in their time of need...

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 09:25 3

47. groupsacc (Posts: 232; Member since: 28 Feb 2012)


That was precisely my feelings few months ago, but at least MS has cleaned up its old monopoly image and actually negotiate cross-licencing with other companies with reasonable terms. Apple just wants everything their way. Apple is the new Microsoft.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 20:43

108. jroc74 (Posts: 5192; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


My thing is....why do they see it as them all of a sudden partnering with MS? They already made WP phones so ...I dont get it.

Do Samsung think for a second that going in more with WP will push Nokia to the back burner? It wont matter with Nokia entrenched as MS's pet project. Samsung will be just another OEM, nothing more.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 08:59 5

13. loken (Posts: 462; Member since: 09 May 2012)


Nice Work Samsung

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 08:59 2

16. MikeG77 (Posts: 373; Member since: 24 Nov 2008)


Apple is in no position to really be complaining about Samsung copying there products as Apple has done the same thing. The ONLY reason why Apple took Samsung to court was not to protect IP but to hurt them financially seeing as there the ONLY one really making any money. I mean come on Apple is now valued as the richest company in the world, has the highest gross margin and keeps breaking records for sales. To me Apple is just being straight up greedy asking for $2 billion in damages when there worth over $600 billion!

Im just curious if Samsung was able to prove they didn't copy Apple and had won in court would you tell Apple to accept the decision????? Don't bother answering because im willing to bet you would say NO.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 09:01 4

18. sp3llv3xit (Posts: 20; Member since: 15 Sep 2011)


Apple is like the schoolyard bully. In order to beat him, the rest of the smaller guys have to unit and gang up on him.
They better make sure that he doesn't get back up. Kill Apple.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 09:01

21. MikeG77 (Posts: 373; Member since: 24 Nov 2008)


Sorry for the triple post.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 09:07 2

25. J-LoTheGreat (Posts: 32; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)


I want to know how a Network such as 4G LTE can warrant Samsung from suing anyone? Forget this whole issue with Apple Vs samsung. I want to know how this is even possible.... I can only imagine the chipset as being the issue, but that cannot be it, can it?

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 10:38 4

71. J-LoTheGreat (Posts: 32; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)


who is the moron giving thumbs down for a question? You people are a joke. I am asking for a simple explanation.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 09:10

29. plgladio (Posts: 313; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)


Victor: Can we say that Apple wont make a LTE device until it settles with Samsung?

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 09:10 1

30. redmd (Posts: 904; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)


Patent wars episode 2: LTE

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 09:12 1

32. networkdood (Posts: 6310; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


Samsung owns 4G LTE? Not sure how this will turn out. Do not be surprised if the original verdict is overturned and then APPLE appeals that verdict - process could go on for years and patent lawyers everywhere will rejoice.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 09:14 1

35. TheRetroReplay (Posts: 245; Member since: 20 Mar 2012)


On what grounds does Samsung have to sue Apple if they make an LTE iPhone? I don't think that Samsung holds the patent for LTE radios.

It really sounds like it was a statement made out of anger, if Apple does make a LTE iPhone, I hope that Samsung has a good reason.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 09:15

38. thebest (Posts: 231; Member since: 08 Jul 2012)


apple already uses lte on the new ipad so.......i don't think its possible to sue apple, they have all the necessary patents
and if samsung strikes deal with MS, then apple will not try to fight against them because MS pays apple for using Apple patents and these two companies may not hate each other anymore
analysts were right, if apple and samsung fight against each other, then the winner would be MS..........android would still have the highest marketshare but MS will definitely eat up a small part of that huge android marketshare.....

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 09:15 5

39. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8841; Member since: 14 May 2012)


>Apple releases the iPhone 5
>Samsung stops the sale three days after releases
>Product ban

If this were to actually be true, Apple is f**ked for a year haha.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 09:26 1

48. MartyK (Posts: 725; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)


See Judge Klueless Koh and her minion jury,

Your precious Iphone-5 will be getting ban..all this patent junk is destroying the market!...

Thank you Clueless Koh and Minion!! (SMH)

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 09:28

51. Bluesky02 (Posts: 1439; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)


haha nice to see Samsung reaction

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 09:59 2

65. harpdogg (Posts: 18; Member since: 17 May 2012)


If copying apple is what made samsung the worlds number one mobile phone producer and it only cost them 1 billion. I am sure they would do it agian in a heart beat.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 10:23 1

70. shuaibhere (Posts: 1660; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)


Why to team with 90's bully to defeat 2000' s bully...........
They two are cruel companies who wants world under their control.......

Samsung is my favourite brand but still i like android more.....
So if samsung moves to wp then i will go for htc.....

No microsoft,no apple.......
Only open source and linux

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 10:57

75. networkdood (Posts: 6310; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


I agree running to microsoft for help against apple is like getting help from a bully to beat a bully. Google can only do so much for Samsung - perhaps Google should have hired the lawyers for the Samsung.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 11:09 1

78. plgladio (Posts: 313; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)


Actually once Google asked Samsung to stop doing same like Apple. So they might have dis-agreed on it.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 11:30 1

80. gallitoking (Posts: 4690; Member since: 17 May 2011)


wow Samsung is showing its true colors now.. and becoming the bully... for something the know dam well they did.. and it seems that Galaxy Nexus will be no more... Sorry Nokia you will be replaced with Samsung..

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 12:50 3

93. tedkord (Posts: 5130; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


I love how you think things like a rectangle with a grid of icons is ok to sue for a ban over but lawsuits on patents on actual technology that someone is using without licensing is bullying.

Not surprising you dont mind Apple using 3g patents without paying for years and millions of devices.

It clearly shows that no matter Apple does, its fine by you.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 11:33 2

81. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 3024; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)


Sammy should rename their product to 'Banana', lol.
And the will headline read, 'Apple went Bananas over their phone issues, shows no respite for the fruity patents'
Or 'The fruit war has begun'. Lol.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 11:33 2

83. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 3024; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)


Sammy should rename their product to 'Banana', lol.
And the headline will read, 'Apple went Bananas over their phone issues, shows no respite for the fruity patents'
Or 'The fruit war has begun'. Lol.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 11:34

84. MelvinPainter (Posts: 52; Member since: 05 Apr 2012)


Apple's little suing game only hurts the consumers in the type of phones they will get, and in their pocketbooks. When they talk about companies who just look out for themselves, apple leads the way. How about all them Chinese getting paid peanuts to bring you a nice phone.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 11:35

85. MelvinPainter (Posts: 52; Member since: 05 Apr 2012)


Apple is the equivalent to the liberal's so-called big oil.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 11:47 1

88. Jay_F (Posts: 236; Member since: 29 Nov 2011)


That's supremely pathetic, Samsung.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 12:25

90. droiddomination (Posts: 203; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)


image? cr@pple? if this law suit victory was all about apple's image, then they better start suing a whole lot more. windows is gaining ground fast, in areas like CHINA nonetheless, and Android is unstoppable at the moment with the latest and greastest in technology and innovation coming out every other month, from at least 5-10 companies/phone manufacturers! apple's image is slipping fast and most people are starting to view them as a second rate, -has been company with a 2007 operating system, in smart phone years, that is ancient!

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 12:51

94. bayhuy (Posts: 306; Member since: 23 Jun 2011)


Samsung- the new carrier's bitch.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 12:54 2

95. protozeloz (Posts: 5379; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


Sorry, I have my doubts, why would samsung like to create a partnership with MS? they are building RT tablets for themselves, and giving nokia preference, at least they keep scoring the Nexus Phones with Google and Keep Getting the SDK, NDK ahead of most of the rest, plus are allowed to customize android till their heart is content

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 14:22

99. 12Danny123 (Posts: 86; Member since: 18 Aug 2012)


It's becuase. Ms has them protected from apple.samsung and ms had a patent agreement. So no matter how many wp Sammy makes. They will never get sued by apple. Becuase of the agreement. Also they want a third option. Everybody does. Limiting to two is not good enough. So they picked wp for their third option. But since they are serious about wp. They you'll see marketing from them

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 22:05

116. remixfa (Posts: 14080; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


They have a partnership with MS already, there isnt much to create, so I dont know why people think that. Samsung has always hedged their bets. Their fingers are in just about every OS other than iOS.. heck they even looked at licencing BB10 (and then ran... lol), and they have their own OS as a back up.

They are not running from Android, its too big of a revenue stream. However they may be trying to shore up other hedges like W8 to increase revenue.. just in case.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 22:36

119. protozeloz (Posts: 5379; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


I really meant to say that they wont be paying WP more attention than android (you can see all the hard work on the note 2) I mean they already make WP devices, but android is their top seller. I don't see them loosing interest on their top dog just to try and deal with MS and venture for the unknown...

on a side note..., dam they should use new materials on the galaxy line, I'm jealous of their WP device now...

posted on 31 Aug 2012, 00:06

124. remixfa (Posts: 14080; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


it did look pretty nice. reminded me of a metallic international SGS2 beefed up

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 15:44

102. lyndon420 (Posts: 1782; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


This is getting just a little retarded now. Anywhooo....hope apple finally falls and hard.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 15:52 1

104. Hemlocke (unregistered)


That's too funny. "We will sue them if they use LTE." Apple has LTE patents from the Nortel patent trove, and they have a cross-licensing agreement with Nokia, who also has LTE patents. Toss in the Qualcomm Gobi licensing, and you have one of the emptiest threats ever conceived of in the patent wars.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 17:23

105. moden6 (Posts: 2; Member since: 30 Aug 2012)


Maybe a stupid question, but what about all these iPhone knockoffs coming from China? Why isn't Apple suing them?

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 21:02

109. techaman (unregistered)


Lol I say yes to Samsung stopping apple it's karma what's the point of all your apps apple if u don't have lte. Apple should have shut up and let the world choose what they want. Hahaha

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 21:46 2

112. oister85 (Posts: 408; Member since: 27 Apr 2012)


Go Samsung don't give up. fight back

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 21:58

113. remixfa (Posts: 14080; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


no.. seriously... change your damn profile pic.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 23:47 1

121. pikapowerize (banned) (Posts: 1869; Member since: 03 May 2012)


technically LTE is not their technology... so i dont know why and how will samsung sue apple for that? or im missing some patent?

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 23:47

122. pikapowerize (banned) (Posts: 1869; Member since: 03 May 2012)


or samsung is just too desperate?

posted on 31 Aug 2012, 05:35

125. Darkyeffectt (Posts: 1; Member since: 31 Aug 2012)


Poor Sammy's fans ...

In a war between Samsung and Apple, Samsung can only lose. Did you forget that this whole war is about money? And when it comes to money no one has more than Apple. Samsung has 10% of LTE patents, but Nokia has 40% and RIM 10%, you can be sure that if Apple need to buy Nokia or RIM they will do it and we'll see who loses more.
Remember, Apple has more money than Samsung and Google combined.

Come on Sammy, I'm waiting to launch my thermo nuclear bomb.

In the best case, Samsung will finish taking the white flag and starting to create their own designs, in the worst case, they could simply go to ruin.

Hey Tim, get the checkbook, go and buy Samsung, close the company and sends all its employees to home.

posted on 31 Aug 2012, 14:10 3

127. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


Apple just lost in Japan.
Apple can win only in America due to JINGOISM prevaling over Natural Justice. So Apple is the one feeling all the "THERMAL" impact of it's so called "Thermo Nuclear" war a term which doesn't suit the status of a "Practising Buddhist" but does suits a Talibani Junkie :)

posted on 01 Sep 2012, 03:15

129. jailbreakstation (Posts: 3; Member since: 01 Sep 2012)


I believe this fight will stay longer and in result the smart phone users will not be able to get more innovative gadgets and phones etc.

posted on 03 Sep 2012, 20:58

133. downphoenix (Posts: 2382; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)


Samsung is being a poor sport. Its true that Apple was given way too much in the case, few doubt that. That said, sueing over LTE just seems like a crybaby move. As previously mentioned, Apple has some access to LTE patents as it is, and if Samsung's move actually had merit, they should have done this when the new Ipad was released. Not doing so then just proves that this is a move in desperation. I hate to say it, but Apple is right here. And I really hate to say that!

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 14:58

134. madman26 (Posts: 3; Member since: 01 Apr 2012)


people on here need to realize these are companies with billions of dollars and this case is between them and them alone, do you work for apple or samsung probably not, do they give you money for acting like a lunatic on here and fighting for company you think is better no, do they charge out the ass for thier products and services, yes!!! so why get so steamed over nothing, phones will still be coming out with more and more innovation to come (especially due to these patent wars) so just choose your phone or product or company and be happy with it. oh and grow up.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 16:09

135. RomeoJDR (Posts: 241; Member since: 09 Dec 2011)


Be nice if the author dug a little deeper providing insight as to what grounds Samsung has to stand to carry out this threat.

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 14:37

137. ambrown (Posts: 29; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)


Well Apple will reap what they've sown. And so far all they've sown is enmity against other smartphone makers (though have been quite cozy with Microsoft lately it seems). In the end if they piss off enough people they will eventually get stabbed in the back...after all you know what they say about kharma.

posted on 07 Sep 2012, 09:48

138. Raymond_htc (Posts: 430; Member since: 06 Apr 2012)


Finally u stood up for urself sammy. good job.

posted on 07 Sep 2012, 12:06

141. jshan (Posts: 199; Member since: 25 Dec 2011)


There is no way like sgs devices thats if there is no smartphone call " iPhone "... All other companies are just copying em.. The quality will never be same as apple. APPLE IS THE BEST FROM ALL.. Even iPhone 4 and iPhone 3GS works smoothly than sgs and sgs2 .. " talking bout pinch zooming, keyboard apperance and auto rotate facility . I think SMASUNG IS THE BEST COPY CAT COMPANY IN THE WHOLE WORLD,,, even camera buttons, in camera image and video record mood changer.phew...

posted on 13 Sep 2012, 23:42

143. Friendlysky (Posts: 54; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)


Time to pay back now! I cannot waite to see Sammy strip Apple now as long sammy win in the US and ban them from sale Iphone 5 others nation too. The reason is why Apple won on the last case in the US because it Politician idears. If apple lost 4LTE cases to sammy people around the world will stop buy apple product and SE will crash like in 1930.Apple stock will completely wipeout from the world. I will buy a big roast pig and pray for you to win Sammy.

posted on 19 Sep 2012, 12:37

144. savezo007 (Posts: 41; Member since: 12 Aug 2012)


now thats wat im talkin bout sammy hit em back and demand TWO MILLION dolars from cApple (edit: theres an r between the c and A) :D

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