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Samsung will sue Apple immediately if it releases an LTE device, allegedly partnering with Microsoft to cut dependency on Android

0. phoneArena 30 Aug 2012, 08:48 posted on

Samsung’s recent loss in court might have triggered some interesting processes inside the company pushing it to develop closer ties with Microsoft…

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posted on 30 Aug 2012, 08:49 27

1. TheLibertine (Posts: 484; Member since: 15 Jan 2012)


Just accept judgement, copycat.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 09:01 43

19. MikeG77 (Posts: 414; Member since: 24 Nov 2008)


Apple is in no position to really be complaining about Samsung copying there products as Apple has done the same thing. The ONLY reason why Apple took Samsung to court was not to protect IP but to hurt them financially seeing as there the ONLY one really making any money. I mean come on Apple is now valued as the richest company in the world, has the highest gross margin and keeps breaking records for sales. To me Apple is just being straight up greedy asking for $2 billion in damages when there worth over $600 billion!

Im just curious if Samsung was able to prove they didn't copy Apple and had won in court would you tell Apple to accept the decision????? Don't bother answering because im willing to bet you would say NO.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 09:02 2

22. MeoCao (unregistered)


Samsung LTE patents are not FRAND?

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 09:02 8

23. TheLibertine (Posts: 484; Member since: 15 Jan 2012)


Of course I would, i promise. If not the Highest Court, who would decide what is true and what not?

Well, there is God and I believe in him, but he has nothing to do with human judgement.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 09:08 2

26. MeoCao (unregistered)


SS does what is best for SS. Their troubles are related very little to Android but mainly to SS own designs.

SS traditionally has strong ties with MS and that relationship is not the result of their legal defeat by Apple.

Android is safe and strong with or without SS.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 09:10 3

28. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


many legal analysts believe the verdict gets overturned....

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 09:12 2

31. andro. (Posts: 1999; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)


Its funny you say that libertine because else where in the world outside of the Apple controlled US apples copy cat when going has generally be denied and apple has even been court order to make a statement on their website to say Samsung did not copy.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 09:15 1

36. andro. (Posts: 1999; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)


Copy cat whinging I meant lol,dam auto correct!

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 09:19 1

42. groupsacc (Posts: 232; Member since: 28 Feb 2012)


I thought they were FRAND. I think there was a case recently where Apple sued HTC for not letting them use the LTE technology.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 09:19 6

43. TheLibertine (Posts: 484; Member since: 15 Jan 2012)


Ah, another question: did a single Fandroid accept the decision that Samsung copied Apple? No, they are making excuses again about the Court being corrupt and as forth...

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 09:23 8

46. MikeG77 (Posts: 414; Member since: 24 Nov 2008)


I agree there was a strong resemblence to when i looked at the Galaxy S and 3GS. Im not saying that Samung did not copy some Apple features but my point is that Apple has done the same as well.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 09:27 2

49. TheLibertine (Posts: 484; Member since: 15 Jan 2012)


Of course it did. Just not to to the degree they get sued for a billion of cash.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 09:28 2

50. ph00ny (Posts: 1331; Member since: 26 May 2011)


Yes but that doesn't mean you don't pay for them.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 09:28 1

52. MeoCao (unregistered)


I don't know about patent law very well, but I guess SS LTE patents licensing precedence can be used by Apple to force a similar license. And SS cannot demand the ban of infringing products but merely ask for licensing fees.

Did I miss anything?

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 09:33 2

55. MeoCao (unregistered)


Then that is disappointment b-c Apple can settle this easily, and I want they face iPhone ban.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 09:36 4

56. MikeG77 (Posts: 414; Member since: 24 Nov 2008)


At this point you are correct but you and i both know that US patent law is complete crap that allows people to patent the dumbest things. To me the whole trial was a waste of time seeing as Apple is gonna shell out a bunch of money for attorneys and they got 8 phones banned that are'nt really relavent anymore.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 09:42 2

59. ph00ny (Posts: 1331; Member since: 26 May 2011)


Supposedly samsung owns more than 10% of all essential LTE related patents right behind qualcomm. Even with FRAND patents, they can still sue if apple doesn't pay up for the patent usage. As for other patents outside of FRAND category, they can still sue apple without much issues.
Biggest problem is the courtroom where jury trials like the last one flat out ignored samsung's patent validity (which apple doesn't even deny) and awarded broad design patents with massive amounts of dollars

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 09:44 1

60. TheLibertine (Posts: 484; Member since: 15 Jan 2012)


Nah, it's about image. 1 billion isn't that much for Samsung and Apple especially and those eight phones really don't bug anyone anymore. They did earlier, as they helped Samsung to get those market share.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 09:48 9

62. ghostnexus (Posts: 96; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)


people still buy the gs2

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 09:51 3

63. joey_sfb (Posts: 6253; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


Keep up with your name calling... it just make you look piss with every android users which is like 68% and gaining....

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 09:55 2

64. TheLibertine (Posts: 484; Member since: 15 Jan 2012)


Well, same goes for Apple's tablet shipments. And as I never insulted someone or someone's opinion I'm relaxed about it.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 10:02

66. dickwyn (Posts: 621; Member since: 07 May 2012)


This is just ridiculous, then after this what Apple countersues again. It is so obvious that LTE will be on the iPhone 5

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 10:20 21

69. abdane (Posts: 494; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)


bro, you're becoming the new TACO ! :D

if you know what i mean ;)

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 10:46 4

72. darkkjedii (Posts: 22702; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


or darkkjedii lol

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 10:47

73. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


lol u got 42 dislikes wonder samsung guys burning out there leave android out of this though let samsung fight on their own

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 12:43 1

92. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


If apple's using someone else's designs for their LTE chips, isn't that copying?

Also, if this happened, it would be very exciting. Verizon won't sell a new iphone without LTE. All the new WindowsPhones and Androids on AT&T have LTE. Sprint's wimax and 3g networks are due for a turndown in the next 2 years, so the iphone won't work without LTE or the new 3g network's radios.

In short, apple will be "attached to another object by an inclined plane, wrapped helically around an axis"

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 11:33 1

82. structureman116 (Posts: 140; Member since: 14 Sep 2010)


Ha...you're an idiot TheLibertine

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 11:35 2

86. Supermanz28 (Posts: 17; Member since: 23 Aug 2012)


so what your saying is that its ok to copy as long as its not to much that u piss the person off and get sued? ya thats fair and totaly justifiable thats complete BS. i think apple just threw its weight around there was no need for this drama or crap i may like android but i do have apple products im not an ifan or fandroid but this was still stupid in every aspect, apple used to lawsuits so was more prepared for this where as samsung off guard its even been mentioned they were under prepared and had a weak argument for apple dispute.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 11:39 1

87. structureman116 (Posts: 140; Member since: 14 Sep 2010)


I dont believe the entire verdict will get overturned, but the amount awarded Apple should most definitely be reduced based on the details released about iphones not even being available to carriers selling some of the "infriging" phones.

posted on 30 Aug 2012, 12:37

91. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


Is LTE enough of a commonplace that FRAND applies? It's still a "luxury" feature

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