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Samsung wants Tizen everywhere (just like Google wants Android everywhere)

0. phoneArena 06 Aug 2013, 22:59 posted on

The more we hear about Tizen, the more it sounds like it is just a matter of time before Samsung abandons Android for its own platform, which makes it even more baffling to think that Google might be making decisions based on the fear that Samsung will get angry and leave. It seems inevitable anyway. The latest word from Samsung is that the company plans for Tizen to grow beyond smartphones to... well, everything...

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posted on 06 Aug 2013, 23:02 31

1. ZettaiRyouiki (Posts: 39; Member since: 05 Aug 2013)


Keep on dreaming. Samsung seems to think they can sell anything they made now. This ego will eventually lead to their downfall.

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 23:38 17

13. TheLolGuy (Posts: 483; Member since: 05 Mar 2013)


It's not just ego. Windows and iOS are personal operating systems. If Android is really invading all things in the home then it must have a competitor. If its going to be someone, then it might as well be Tizen.

Don't forget that Intel is also helping Samsung develop Tizen. Why? Probably because Intel is willing to go deep to make sure Tizen is a success in return for having perfect compatibility with x86 and making a contract to use their chips -- perhaps even exclusively for a given time. No other OEMs have been receptive to using Intel's mobile products for their devices, so if Intel can't force their way into Android, then it will fight with a competing platform.

This is not just Samsung's ego -- they too are protecting themselves from the danger of Google+Motorola just as they are worried about Samsung. Intel wants in on mobile products as well as potentially chips in all sorts of home electronics using Tizen.

Samsung has a heavy sway in the Asian market, and I'm sure Tizen has the potential to give Google a headache in the years to come.

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 00:08 14

22. AnTuTu (Posts: 681; Member since: 14 Oct 2012)


As far I know Samsung will introduce a flagship later this year based on Tizen OS.

Imagine that device running all of the S features from Note 3 and S4. That will be another beast after Note 3.

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 00:29 4

30. TheLolGuy (Posts: 483; Member since: 05 Mar 2013)


That is also true -- they can leverage everything they learned about skinning Android and transferring all of their great exclusive features to Tizen to give it a decent start.

I guess the only thing would be it's "lacking ecosystem" but we'll see how they deal with that. If Tizen takes Microsoft out of the top 3 OSes worldwide it could really be dangerous for them.

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 04:56 1

57. belovedson (Posts: 832; Member since: 30 Nov 2010)


Your right if they can simply get key apps to start and make cross platform app development simple enough they should be in linear competition to android in the years to come

I just hope they allow rooting and open development and not closed environment like windows and partially but crippled ios

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 01:48

39. MrKoles (Posts: 305; Member since: 20 Jan 2013)


Hmmm, sounds good. I would go for it!

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 23:23

72. JGuinan007 (Posts: 630; Member since: 19 May 2011)


Where is Bada?

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 00:05 4

20. anywherehome (Posts: 971; Member since: 13 Dec 2011)


yes, they want to shoot themselves into their leg

Samsung takes Apple's way = we are the best = we will succeed in whatever we do = ...... a little later we will fail

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 00:43 7

34. jdoee100 (Posts: 305; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)


Samsung is not leaving android. Samsung probably loses money supporting window os, but still supports it. Why would samsung leave android, when it makes them billions of dollars??!!

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 23:03 14

2. darkskoliro (Posts: 955; Member since: 07 May 2012)


Stop trying to make Tizen happen - It's not going to happen.

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 03:39 7

55. dickwyn (Posts: 585; Member since: 07 May 2012)


who knows maybe in the next few years it will be like android. you never know

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 23:06 10

3. DaNTRoN (Posts: 135; Member since: 23 Jul 2012)


I won't be buying tizen. But I wouldn't care if Samsung left android.

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 00:10 3

23. anywherehome (Posts: 971; Member since: 13 Dec 2011)


yes....it will help HTC a lot
HTC will thank Samsung because of their stu*pidity leaving Android :)

good bye Samsung....Android has made you best, without Android will make you the worst ;)

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 00:53 10

36. jdoee100 (Posts: 305; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)


1. Samsung is not leaving android.
2. HTC has issues(updates, build quality,,,etc) other than samsung.

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 04:58

58. belovedson (Posts: 832; Member since: 30 Nov 2010)


Htc hasn't build a quality phone like one since the original nexus and that's saying a lot.

I have owned a ton of htc phones and I believe I can say that

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 05:32 1

61. tashreef (Posts: 476; Member since: 24 Nov 2012)


Build quality? are you nuts? Samsung makes hardware out of garbage.. HTC offers one of the finest hardware in terms of quality... i agree they are not good at giving service to the customers and updating their devices... but if they do.. Samsung will lose indian Android smartphone market to HTC....

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 23:10 5

5. a_merryman (Posts: 641; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)


At some point in life, you realize that things don't always go your way. This is that point with Samsung. Tizen just...isn't going to be popular.

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 23:18 5

8. kobainez (Posts: 302; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


The downfall of samsung will began as soon as they leave android..

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 23:22 5

10. protozeloz (Posts: 5372; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


doubt it will happen though, they will keep using Android witch possesses a great app store a good production cost and a consumer fan base

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 23:32 8

11. TheLolGuy (Posts: 483; Member since: 05 Mar 2013)


They won't leave Android. It's symbiotic. Samsung really did help Google spread Android, and yet at the same time, it's what made Samsung flourish too.

They'll be making a slow transition I'm sure -- or perhaps they may never leave Android.

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 00:14 7

24. softfurryanus (banned) (Posts: 232; Member since: 09 Jul 2013)


I don't remember Samsung ever marketing their phones with android as a selling point, they use their unique features to draw people in. Maybe its just a silly misconception but I doubt the average consumer recognizes the Galaxy S4 with android until they buy it. Throw a bunch of flashy features (air gesture, video pausing when you look away, camera effects, and more) on a tizen phone with a neat design with the same good ads they use for the galaxy devices and it might do well.

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 05:02

59. belovedson (Posts: 832; Member since: 30 Nov 2010)


The original Motorola droid brought attention to android.

The galaxy two series slapped apple in the face and said android has not only caught up in android os development but hardware as well.

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 00:35 1

33. Felix_Gatto (Posts: 469; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)


Well, anything is possible.
Every companies had their golden period, and it cannot last forever.

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 02:13 1

46. WindowsiDroid (Posts: 108; Member since: 22 Jul 2013)


But some Company can last long like Nokia their golden period ends with the year 2010 but still they are continuing but this time they are not golden anymore.

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 02:40

51. Felix_Gatto (Posts: 469; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)


I mean that their golden period won't last forever.
It can last for long time, but not forever.

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 23:43 2

14. Bootutu (Posts: 184; Member since: 11 Jul 2013)


Samsung app store has better and more useful apps than WP store and Blackberry app store as at now, they have Samsung hub for video, music, books etc. They only need to merge those with Tizen and boom you have a full fledged OS with all the ingredients. They also have the population to progress. Tizen is even more advanced, open source, faster, fluid and dev friendly than Android and can be highly customisable too. So if they wish to leave, they won't have much issues.

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 23:52 1

16. SingDaFire (Posts: 74; Member since: 21 Jun 2013)


You make me laugh Bootutu.. Go home your drunk too lmao...

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 00:02 4

18. TheLolGuy (Posts: 483; Member since: 05 Mar 2013)


His post was a little silly but he does make a point somewhat. Samsung has experience in making a mobile OS (Bada), and while it's true that they don't have the best software engineering talent, Intel does. Blackberry went at the market alone, Microsoft went alone, but Samsung has the backing of Intel. The company with some of the world's best engineers and programmers. If that doesn't look like a threat then I don't know what does.

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 00:00 3

17. androiphone20 (Posts: 1400; Member since: 10 Jul 2013)


Samsung is king they do whatever they want wherever they want diversify Samsung diversify

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 00:30 3

31. Felix_Gatto (Posts: 469; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)


Samsung is not a God, their golden period will not last forever.

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 00:04 2

19. softfurryanus (banned) (Posts: 232; Member since: 09 Jul 2013)


I wouldn't jump immediately to conclusions saying this will fail. If Samsung takes the right precautions and gets a lot of developer support before release it could get somewhere, I don't think it will progress as smooth as android (which wasn't very smooth at all, so it will be interesting) but Samsung is good at advertising and should keep it moving. I doubt other OS's will worry about tizen since they already have to deal with android, but google and samsung will have a tough conflict ahead of them because of their intertwined success, should be much more interesting and petty than apple vs samsung or apple vs Google.

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 00:18 1

25. rantao333 (Posts: 215; Member since: 21 May 2013)


so samsung is copying android now.

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 00:28 1

28. Felix_Gatto (Posts: 469; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)


Previously they did it with Bada OS.

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 02:28 1

49. Trex95 (Posts: 543; Member since: 03 Mar 2013)


Copying Android, Symbian, IOS and WP8 in one OS and call it TIZEN LOl.

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 00:24 3

26. Felix_Gatto (Posts: 469; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)


Samsung is going to make the same mistake again........
This OS(Tizen) will become a huge flop just like Bada OS.
I'm really sure that this OS have no position to confront Android and iOS. Even other OS like WP8 and BB10 are more competent than this trash(Tizen).
I GUARANTEE THAT'S WHAT WILL BE HAPPEN IN NEAR FUTURE

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 00:25 4

27. Jklaz (Posts: 124; Member since: 01 Jul 2013)


Samsung just wants to put Apple in third place lol

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 00:28 3

29. MartyK (Posts: 699; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)


Everyone is forgetting, Samsung was making phone before Android came alone, Samsung was nothing, if I it wasn't for Android Samsung would still be selling that God awful Samsung Instinct M800 CDMA (SPRINT) phone aka the iphone killer..lol

Yeah go ahead and make your own os Samsung, .. lol

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 05:05 1

60. belovedson (Posts: 832; Member since: 30 Nov 2010)


Samsung has failed a bunch of times with os and software but even a giant company like Samsung can succeed. Did you not read or heard of Steve jobs. Macs were absolutely horrendous for along time

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 05:48 1

62. Kreft (Posts: 84; Member since: 27 Dec 2012)


What do you mean were? Still horrible.

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 00:31 1

32. jromy (Posts: 113; Member since: 26 Feb 2013)


So what if Samsung's mediocre looking phones have just been a way to keep the consumer hooked and they will offer their "beauty queens' on Tizen? Surely they know that a good looking device is even more important than an useful one to about half of the public right? what if they offered both their software and a great new design but are saving it for their own OS?

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 00:50 1

35. pwnarena (Posts: 843; Member since: 15 Feb 2013)


Google has nothing to fear. I think most of their success can be attributed to Android. If they abandon Android, it'll be their loss. People are now more familiar with Android. It will take a lot of effort from them to make people adopt a new OS. If they leave, other Android device makers will flourish. It'll be their end. Even if they connive with Chinese manufacturers to ditch Android, it'll take a very long time for them to convince people to switch to a new OS.

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 01:22 1

38. joey_sfb (Posts: 2758; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


They have been saying that since 2011. Samsung still cling to Android for its dear life. Other OEM are just wishing and praying that Samsung would leave android earlier rather than later so they could snap up the market share.

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 02:08

45. Hytparts (Posts: 3; Member since: 07 Aug 2013)


It's their dream, we can only witness by time···

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 02:15 2

47. SonyFindOneDroidple (Posts: 441; Member since: 11 May 2013)


Then let them do their own thing..
WHat do you actually think about this?? In fact Samsung isnt letting each one of you to buy a future Tizen device.. Arent we lucky enough to embrace a future of tech diversity.. How if these Tizen devices make something different and be equipped with something so advanced than the existing OS..
Hmm

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 02:22

48. Trex95 (Posts: 543; Member since: 03 Mar 2013)


Samsung burn this crap call it TIZEN and supports Ubuntu it's the best OS behind IOS and Android.

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 02:36

50. taojj (Posts: 33; Member since: 01 Aug 2013)


Samsung is the most overrated brand ever.

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 02:41

52. taojj (Posts: 33; Member since: 01 Aug 2013)


What an idiotic article. If Samsung leaves android it will be finished. Samsung is nothing without Android. Does anybody remember Bada???

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 03:25 2

53. raghu67 (Posts: 26; Member since: 23 Aug 2012)


samsung may not leave android when it is making good money with it.
but we should also remember samsung can make their own OS, remember BADA os.
it was released in very few countries,,, there's no developer support,, no games n apps from well-known developers...
BUT, IT HAD MORE MARKET SHARE THAN WP 7.
so, if samsung n intel concentrates well, its not a big deal for them to get a true competitor to Android.

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 05:50

63. Kreft (Posts: 84; Member since: 27 Dec 2012)


Eww. Nobody wants an Asian os. I'll stick with android and wp. Beep off Samsung.

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 06:00

64. gazmatic (Posts: 562; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)


samsung is crap

most overrated company in ages

i cant believe i ever bought their cheap ass phone(which was expensive but not worth it. gs3 500)

now i know why so much android users want a nokia android

they are disgruntled... cognitive dissonance

they know samsung sucks but they want to justify their purchase

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 06:29 1

65. souryakharb (Posts: 4; Member since: 27 Jul 2013)


I think Ubuntu can do this...
Their organization is small than Samsung
But their Mobile & Desktop both OS are really superb
If ubuntu get support of App developer i will be the biggest challenge for Android & iOS

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 06:56 2

66. Ronny666 (Posts: 108; Member since: 08 Jun 2013)


Ok, some of you nutheads need to understand that Samsung will not abandon Android (or anytime soon). Infact, they would like to secure themselves instead of depending on Android although they have been very good partners.

They will most probably provide platform options for users to choose from, unlike their popular competitors who prefer to sit within their comfort zone.Talking about ego? Well, I would suggest you to direct that to Nokia first.

I definitely don't see this as an useless effort. Yeah Apple, Google and Microsoft have been dominating in OS, but that does not mean that there is no chance for newcomers to compete or make it better.

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 11:24

67. synot (Posts: 88; Member since: 14 Sep 2012)


To all Samsung haters commenting on this article,I wish to have have u know that the Orientals ,be they Chinese ,koreans or Taiwanese or others are the best tech savy people in the world and they dont fail in this area so you can keep your hate and wishful thinking of failure to yourselves.I am very disturbed that u people are so full of hate for a very successful company because its Korean and not American.You dont have to hate Oriental Companies because of the Vietnam War or South Koreas and Americas conflict.

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 11:24

68. synot (Posts: 88; Member since: 14 Sep 2012)


To all Samsung haters commenting on this article,I wish to have have u know that the Orientals ,be they Chinese ,koreans or Taiwanese or others are the best tech savy people in the world and they dont fail in this area so you can keep your hate and wishful thinking of failure to yourselves.I am very disturbed that u people are so full of hate for a very successful company because its Korean and not American.You dont have to hate Oriental Companies because of the Vietnam War or South Koreas and Americas conflict.

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 11:38

69. synot (Posts: 88; Member since: 14 Sep 2012)


Samsung wont fail because they target a certain market and they would not be doing this if they didnt first research their program and know what u people are lacking in your comments. If Microsoft or Google was thinking like u haters are wishing then we wouldnt have Android or windows and so leave Samsung to do their Tizen os which may be the most successful os ever,remember they are not alone in this venture ,only the leader,many more companies may be on board in investment.

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 19:27

70. Larry_ThaGr81 (Posts: 294; Member since: 26 May 2011)


Hopefully they won't completely abandon Android because I'm sure many users have invested a lot into the Android ecosystem to simply switch to a different OS, me being one of those users. That's like going from an Android device to a Windows device. However, in the long run I would have to agree that more competition is a good thing.

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 23:22

71. JGuinan007 (Posts: 630; Member since: 19 May 2011)


what ever happened to Bada?

posted on 08 Aug 2013, 10:09

73. xtian1103 (Posts: 355; Member since: 11 Feb 2012)


this is what i thought few years ago when samsung is releasing the galaxy s2, it also uses android on it's chromebook installed laptop and galaxy tab. now it has sucked all the juices of android and made billions of money out of it, they would like to separate. nice move!

posted on 10 Aug 2013, 08:54

74. Supaheight (Posts: 66; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)


the thing is that no matter how much cash they put in there sammy isn't going to lose nothing. My fear is that it might actually work. I know what sammy is feeling you do all the work someone and he doesn't reward you it hurts. I hope tizen work for them but if it works as sammy wants then sayonara google. But for the moment i stick with android.

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