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Samsung to open-source bada in 2012?

0. phoneArena 20 Sep 2011, 03:55 posted on

Samsung is planning to open source its bada operating system next year to a wider circle making it possible for outside developers and other phone makers to use the code…

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posted on 20 Sep 2011, 04:28 1

5. ledbetterp3 (Posts: 467; Member since: 31 Aug 2011)


It is a mobile smart phone operating system developed by Samsung. It is quite new , the Samsung Wave series are the only smart phones to use it right now, you can look it up on Wikipedia or something...

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 04:35 1

6. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)


bada is as said a smartphone operating system made by samsung. At the moment you can only buy Samsung phones with bada. There are about 6500 apps for bada at the moment.
bada has more fucntions and personalization opitions than both WP7 and IOS. bada is also much faster than Android, so i really recomend you to have a look at it.

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 09:29 1

51. Yeeee (Posts: 190; Member since: 02 Aug 2011)


It also looks like how android did 2 years ago and none of the phones have a dual core or 4g. It is terrible really. Look at android and ios, then bada.

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 04:05 1

2. dj (unregistered)


Peter is on cloud 9 :)

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 04:06 2

3. adarsh.kl (Posts: 5; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)


What say Peter.?? He is the best person to answer. :)

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 04:20 3

4. antifanboy (unregistered)


would be a good step, but i think it won't help bada that much. most devs and hacker would never touch a bada phone. bada aims people between 10 and 20 that don't need apps or good functionality.
take a look on xda. people are focused on porting android or hacking samsungs promissed social hub premium which they never delivered in most countries. even the windows phone 7 forums are much more atcive and successful although it isn't open source.

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 04:37 2

7. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)


bada is a smartphone platform and there are already lots of apps for bada. And bada is a young operating system and it already has more functions than both IOS and WP7.

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 04:45 5

9. antifanboy (unregistered)


please stop telling the same lies over and over again. both facts( bada aims users betwenn 10 and 20, and it is a platform from users that don't need apps) come directly from samsung employees.
it's true bada has some apps, but the development is pretty poor.
here you see some stats of an appstore that is even younger than bada os.
almost thousand apps in the last two weeks.http://www.windowsphoneapplist.com/stats/

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 05:35 2

20. kainy (Posts: 165; Member since: 10 Aug 2011)


Why the hell are you comparing Bada with WP and iOS? Am I the only one who can't find the link between them? It's like comparing Symbian to WP or iOS .. thats stupid. You must compare a highly customizable operating system with such ... so compare it to Android.

Just stop spitting around that iOS and WP are dumb OSes cuz you say so ... the philosophies of iOS and WP are worlds apart from the philosophies of Android and Bada. So they are not comparable. You have to compare only WP with iOS and Android with Bada. The wars between Android and iOS are purely because of the marketshare everyone knows that on Android you can download torrents and execute .exe files and you can't do it, and wont do it on iOS or WP. And everybody knows that nor Android, nor Bada is or will be as fast, fluid or eye pleasing as iOS or WP. So different philosophies that are not comparable ... дЪЪ

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 05:51 2

21. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)


One correction here "ndroid, nor Bada is or will be as fast, fluid or eye pleasing as iOS or WP"
that's not true. bada is just as fast as Wp7 and IOS, but with much more functions and personalization options than WP7 or IOS. that is one reason i'm saying bada is such a good OS. And to me, bada is much more eye pleasing than WP7. When it comes to IOS, i'd say that bada ans IOs both have a beutifull UI.

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 06:04 2

26. antifanboy (unregistered)


ui (launcher ) is a matter of taste. you are right, not everyone likes the lookings of wp7 (i do), but there will be more as soon as windows8 tablets are released.
but it'strue bada is slow. damn slow. the ui menu is very fluid, especially when you haven't installed many apps. but the apps are really slow.
compare facebook app with ios, android, and wp7 (i have all three, iOS and wp7 are the best versions, androids one is good but a bit buggy sometimes). the app is ectremly slow and buggy and it looks like 2008 apps. even bada 2.0 facebook looks like a slow copy iOS one.
than compare the webbrowser. slow, slower, bada.
take a look at games, many of them are buggy on bada, or are lagging much more than on comparable android devices.
take a look on office apps, there is just one, it is pricy and totally slow.
and it's hard to find messengers on bada. but the existant ones are slow and buggy. i hope chaton will be much better.
only thing working very well is multimedia. it plays almost everything pretty good.

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 11:57 1

58. kainy (Posts: 165; Member since: 10 Aug 2011)


Well ... no ... Bada is not that fast ... or you are blind or smth?! Show me comperison in the UI that shows how fast is Bada comparing to whatever WP device you want, as I recall you talked that you have almost every phone on the market ... so you can make a video? Please make it and make me feel sorry for my comment right now or you cant?

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 07:08

42. sdfsd (unregistered)


hahaha, babadog.A transition from iSheep

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 13:19

62. badabing (unregistered)


Apps give you function. How can bada have more functions and personalization options when it doesn't even have 1/10 the apps ios or android does or 1/5 if you want to talk about wp7? Last I saw bada has 6500 apps. That is nothing.

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 04:38 2

8. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)


this is good news. This shows that Samsung is really pushing bada now, and working on bada. Now this really is a confirmation of what i guessed the reason Samsung hired Steve Kondik (cyanogen). He is working on bada...

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 04:51 1

11. antifanboy (unregistered)


i'm pretty sure he never will touch bada. he was hired to deliver the best android experience and to be able to update android faster than it's competiters like htc, sony, and lg. there are rumours touchwiz5 will be shrinked and kept neer to android oringinal to make it easier to update the firmwares. that's what he does i guess.
but we will see...

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 05:08 3

15. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)


Who thinks that Samsung will spend lots of money to hir Steve kondik just to work on Android, a Os that is not even their own ???
That just doesn't make sense.

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 05:29

18. antifanboy (unregistered)


please reread my post slowly

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 07:01 3

39. remixfa (Posts: 14151; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


I do.

His specialty is hacking and optimizing android. He and his team are a king in that field. Why would you take an exceptional talent like that and throw him to a minor leagues OS with little chance of becoming mainstream?

He practically started the hacking movement on Android.... and he sure as heck mainstreamed it. He is not working on bada.. lol.

Whatever Cyanogen is working on, i want to get my hands on it. And i guarantee you i wouldnt be putting my hands on a bada phone to get it.

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 07:05 1

41. jenulad (Posts: 11; Member since: 20 Sep 2011)


Currently Bada is not on Linux kernel, Samsung is working to make bada on linux kernel. And i heard this guy is working on that project

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 08:39 1

46. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)


What makes you think Steve Kondik is not working on bada ?
Do you really think Samsung is hiring this guy and paying him lots of money to develop Android, a Os that is not even yours ?
Imagine if Mcdonalds hired a Hamburger expert to design the yummiest hamburger you have ever tasted for Burger king, how crazy is that ???!!!
So from what i'm reading, even if Steve Kondik is working with bada, you still would not want it ?
Just shows how much of a Android fanboy you are !

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 09:07 1

47. remixfa (Posts: 14151; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


i only go up in amenities.. not down, peter. :)

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 05:17 2

16. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)


I love how Phonarena is coming with so many bada articles : D

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 05:55 3

23. THE_GAME (unregistered)


Come on Phonearena, stop publishing such articles.......

These make Peter wet his pants.....and can cause a shortage of underpants in Sweden........

It may cause national emergency, guys.......u know what i mean ........ hmmm....

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 05:57 2

25. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)


No thanks, keep the bada articles comin !

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 06:17 2

29. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)


I just realized what is going to happen
Samsung is makin bada open source. All developers will like that + now other manufacturers like HTC, LG and sony ericssn can use bada. SAmsung has hired steve kondik to work on bada, since he is an expert at linux and open source.
Samsungs main OS will of course be bada. It is becoming very clear now.

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 06:27 4

31. Mercenary (unregistered)


Wow...really??i mean htc.lg and SE gonna use bada?thanks god u didn't say apple and nokia!
android is much better than bada..so can u tel me why htc gonna use this OS??and i see that bada is a copy from android and nothing new in it..and even samsung doesn't use this OS for it's phones except wave series.

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 06:38 2

34. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)


The reason HTC LG and SE might use bada is because of Google buying Motorola. when Google buys Motorola, they will start making their own phones, and create a Android Google monopoly, which is way the other manufacturers will be looking to use another OS.
When it comes to bada, it is has more functions and personalization settings than IOS and WP7, and it is faster and has a better UI than Android.

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 07:00 1

38. Mercenary (unregistered)


i don't think that google will do that..i mean just motorola will have android..and can u tell me how u find bada better and faster than other OS's?give me a link of a comparison between android and bada showing that bada has better ui and faster!!
look ..i love apple.but that doesn't mean that i must hate the others..so r u..if u love bada.it's ok..but u must realize that bada is for mid-range phones and other OS's is much better.

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 07:02

40. remixfa (Posts: 14151; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


its the SAME UI AS ANY SAMSUNG ANDROID.. lololololol..

your a nutter peter. :)

i see you put on that tinfoil hat for the last few posts.

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 08:37 2

45. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)


It has the same UI because Samsung put the touchwiz UI on top of their Android phones.
that is also one plan from Samsung to sell lots of bada phones. They make all their Android phones look alot like bada, and when they stopp selling android, everyone will buy Samsung bada phones since they look similar to other Samsung phones they are used to.

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 09:41 1

52. remixfa (Posts: 14151; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


thats because touchwiz ui was on androids years before bada came out...

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 10:08 1

54. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)


Nope, it wasn't. You haven't checked your facts.
Touchwiz on samsung android phones came out on the Galaxy S. the Wavewith bada launched before the Galaxy S.

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 12:38

59. remixfa (Posts: 14151; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


uhh no, it didnt peter. it was on the behold2 which was an OG android phone.

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 12:39

60. remixfa (Posts: 14151; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


you would think that the #1 bada cheerleader would know where touchwiz, the UI bada is based on... came from.. lol

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 12:44

61. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)


Samsung had touchwiz before any of their android phones. For example the Omnia HD which ran symbian.
But touchwiz the way i looks like now was first on the wave.

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 13:54

63. remixfa (Posts: 14151; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


no, peter. The behold had touchwiz vs 1.0 on it. it was the first phone to have the overlay called touchwiz on it. it is where it started, on android, not bada. good lord.

we are on a phone site, with this info at your fingertips.. lol


Delve - released nov 2008, the first american phone to feature touchwiz

http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-Delve_id3231



behold 2- android, released nov- 2009, the first one with the current version/look of touchwiz

http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-Behold-II_id4133


wave, released april- 2010

http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-Wave_id4435




touchwiz was not created for bada.. lolol.

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 14:02

64. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)


I have not saying touchwiz has been created for bada. You talk about the behold 2 with touchwiz. That was released on 18 Nov 2009. The omnia Hd with touchwiz and symbian was released 18 May 2009. touchwiz was not first on Android phones. But my point is that the wave was the first to have the new version of touchwiz, and the Galaxy S was second.

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 14:39

65. roldefol (Posts: 3180; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


There's one logical flaw in your argument about a Google/Motorola monopoly (other than the fact that it flies in the face of Google's business model and ain't gonna happen). You assume that current Android manufacturers will flock to open source bada because they're afraid of a Google-Moto monopoly. What about a bada-Samsung monopoly? Why wouldn't Samsung save all the best new bada updates for their own devices, especially since they created it? What competitive advantage would HTC, S-E and LG gain from using bada instead of Android?

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 09:12

48. remixfa (Posts: 14151; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


here is the opposite end of your rose colored bada coin.

samsung is making it open source to spur development. why? because they are trying to gauge community interest in it. If its open and availible for all for say.. a year.. and development goes nowhere in the community, then they know they need to scrap it or make some huge changes. It was android's open source hacking and rooting movement that helped spur its popularity in the beginning. Samsung is aware of this and has been very kind to ROM developers. If developers dont start jumping on Open Source Bada, then its probably dead in the water.. Give it 1 year from when they actually release the code into the wild and we will see who's right. :)

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 06:19

30. THE_GAME (unregistered)


Oh!!!! may be Peter wears Panties.......

But of what size....GOD knows......may be he also doesn't want to know this.....lol

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 06:28 1

32. THE_GAME (unregistered)


Others will use bada for what.....for licking your bada-smeared filthy a**

Come on Peter..... its time to grow up.......

Didn't u read Sony ericsson Ray review yesterday..... Timesscape is miles ahead Touchwiz when it comes to PRESENTATION and FUNCTIONALITY.........

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 06:38

33. Mooooo (Posts: 212; Member since: 27 Aug 2011)


We are Bada intensive and Peter is on the front lines.

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 06:39

35. uche_dashing (Posts: 11; Member since: 20 Sep 2011)


Peter just quit this trolling... Like umm over 20 people always arguing with some guy named peter. No matter how hard u guys try... u ll never win him...

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 06:41 1

36. uche_dashing (Posts: 11; Member since: 20 Sep 2011)


Peter just quit this trolling... Like umm over 20 people always arguing with some guy named peter. No matter how hard u guys try... u ll never be able to make him see the truth about the sad future of *bada* mtchew!

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 09:42 1

53. remixfa (Posts: 14151; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


peter can troll bada forums all he wants.. he is the official bada cheerleader. at least he is normally nice when argueing and doesnt resort to name calling and juvenile antics like some other people.

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 06:44 3

37. Mooooo (Posts: 212; Member since: 27 Aug 2011)


He likes his Bada I say let him be

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 07:38 1

43. unregistered (unregistered)


Samsung is afraid

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 07:46 2

44. Mooooo (Posts: 212; Member since: 27 Aug 2011)


Sure its a smart move for them just in case. Imagine all of the sudden having no os for your lineup. More Linux the better imo. I been using Linux as desktop since 1997.

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 09:13

49. lubba (Posts: 1311; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)


Somehow this Bada looks similar to Android. Now if Samsung drops Android for Bada, wouldn't Google sue?

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 09:26 1

50. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)


bada does not look similar to stock android. bada only looks similar to Samsungs android phones and that is because of touchwiz.

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 11:09

55. tsets (unregistered)


Yo pete don't get us wrong here(and i do speak for all of us)we are not bada/wave haters rather its your anoying behavior that leads to that correct bada was before touchwiz(and its sucks-touchwiz that is) but saying bada phones outdo everey phone existing now and every phone to come is pretty bold,indeed it is nice and really fast but until the same WOW factor the android kicks in its future doesn't seem to bright.I kie bada used the first wave great screen good(great)specs but in terms of usability it doesn't to me showany smartness ''anymore'' samsung phones using their proprietary sustem stardet to look like bada and who knows maybe samsung will do a ''symbian'' (stupid Elop) and make bada a feature phone OS........

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 11:12

56. haikallp (unregistered)


lets stop arguing bout wether Bada is a good OS or not. Here is my honest opinion (having used Android, iOS and WP before), in terms of looks, Bada is eerily similar to Android cause of its TouchWiz interface but it isnt as customizable as Android. Actually Bada is a pretty good OS except for its lack of apps.

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 11:14

57. tsets (Posts: 11; Member since: 20 Sep 2011)


No bada is good just kinda looks like an android ripoff a friend of mine buyng a new cellphone bought by mistake a wave because he misstook it for android when he saw it on display......

posted on 21 Sep 2011, 04:10

66. AMora (unregistered)


http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/business/2011/09/20/0501000000AEN20110920011800320.HTML

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