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Samsung to make a 14nm processing chip for Apple's upcoming SoC (the A9), expects big profits

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Samsung to make a 14nm processing chip for Apple's upcoming SoC (the A9), expects big profits
Apple's 20nm A8 chip that can be found inside both the Apple iPhone 6 and the iPhone 6 Plus is by no means outdated or trailing behind the Qualcomm competition performance-wise, but rumors and speculations about Apple's next chipset, most probably the A9, are already making the rounds.

It looks like the SoC in question will be manufactured by Samsung, Apple's greatest rival, itself and the South Korea giant will be using a 14nm fabrication process under Samsung's three-dimensional FinFet technology, which means that the chipset won't be flat like the regular silicon chipsets. Allegedly, the 14nm process itself will make the Apple A9 35% more energy-efficient, 20% faster, and 15% smaller than the currently existing 20nm chipsets, the Apple A8 and Samsung's Exynos 5 Octa 5433 (found inside certain Galaxy Note 4 variants) among them. This was confirmed by Kim Ki-nam, the head of Samsung’s semiconductor business, which also claimed that thanks to this, the company's earnings will increase. 

Apple stroke a deal with TSMC for the mass production of the computing chip inside the A8, but Samsung also produced a portion of the iPhone 6-powering chipsets – according to industry source, TSMC accounted for 70% of the whole production, whereas Samsung is responsible for some 30%. Apple is trying hard to move away from Samsung, but the tech giant currently has an enormous advantage over TSMC and the rest of the chipset manufacturers.

While TSMC is allegedly perfectly capable of making a 16nm chip for Apple in 2015, Samsung is said to be pushing the limits even further and being able to produce 14nm chips. Apple is surely having a lot of mixed feelings about its most important business partner and, at the same time, its most potent rival. There is no exact word on when Samsung will employ the 14nm fabrication process in its own Exynos chipsets.

Samsung, on the other hand, has many reasons to be happy – first of all, it is expecting an increased cash flow from Cupertino, and secondly, this will surely help Samsung regain some of its positions in Cupertino, which will further complicate the already- embroiled relations between the two “frienemies”.

source: ZDNet Korea via SamMobile

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posted on 02 Oct 2014, 05:12 12

1. vuyonc (Posts: 1014; Member since: 24 Feb 2014)


35% more power efficiency - 35% smaller battery for thinness expected.

posted on 02 Oct 2014, 05:19 19

5. vincelongman (Posts: 4398; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)


Now with 35° more bending at 35 lb less!

posted on 02 Oct 2014, 05:14 12

2. Cicero (Posts: 869; Member since: 22 Jan 2014)


Samsung forever!

posted on 02 Oct 2014, 11:20 2

20. CreeDiddy (Posts: 714; Member since: 04 Nov 2011)


Designed by Apple, assembled by Samsung. Not designed by Samsung. Big difference my friend.

posted on 02 Oct 2014, 12:41 1

21. engineer-1701d (unregistered)


no not designed by apple its samsungs design, apple will be using it, they have been messing around with the 14nm chip now for over a year, trying to get it perfect.

posted on 02 Oct 2014, 14:40 1

26. stealthd (unregistered)


The chip is Apple's design. It takes a reliable fabrication process to make it though, and that's where Samsung and TSMC come in.

posted on 02 Oct 2014, 05:14 2

3. vincelongman (Posts: 4398; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)


Good, I want to see TSMC focus on making Nvida/AMD GPUs/CPUs so we can have 4K 120 Hz gaming soon (though probably 5+ years away before mid range cards can do 4K 120 Hz)

Also 14 nm Exynos will be great as well

posted on 02 Oct 2014, 05:42 4

9. iEpic (Posts: 8; Member since: 03 Mar 2012)


Samsung always keeps the best for themselves. 14nm Exynos might even be unveiled first compared to the A9. Samsung's strategic behavior can be seen with their distribution of AMOLED technology. Other companies like Motorola use regular OLED technology compared to AMOLED, despite their supplier being Samsung.
It's ironic how Apple always tries to move away from being dependent on Samsung, but they can't.

posted on 02 Oct 2014, 06:19 2

15. hung2900 (Posts: 956; Member since: 02 Mar 2012)


Samsung skipped to invest a big capacity for 20nm to rush 14nm.
TSMC due to the huge production of 20nm (nVIDIA and AMD have waited for so long) will be later.

posted on 02 Oct 2014, 05:18 6

4. darkkjedii (Posts: 21165; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


These two companies are frienemies, and all these fools congregate and insult each other over them all day, while these two do "big business". Apple and Samsung are teammates lol.

posted on 02 Oct 2014, 05:25 11

6. maherk (Posts: 3705; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)


Practice what you preach for.
You are one of the 1st ones to attack others if they dared to criticize Apple.

posted on 02 Oct 2014, 05:47 3

12. darkkjedii (Posts: 21165; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Case in point lol.

posted on 02 Oct 2014, 05:26 4

7. maherk (Posts: 3705; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)


Practice what you preach for.
You are one of the 1st ones to attack others if they dared to criticize Apple.

posted on 02 Oct 2014, 05:54 1

13. willytbk (Posts: 231; Member since: 15 Aug 2012)


you are one of them to start attack others too ... mbhekkkkk

posted on 02 Oct 2014, 06:09 2

14. maherk (Posts: 3705; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)


Who saidmI'm not? It's just that am not a hypocrite to criticize others when I am the first to attack others.

posted on 02 Oct 2014, 07:57

16. bucky (Posts: 2556; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)


I don't think dark attacks people at all. Only the trolls. Which I do as well.

posted on 02 Oct 2014, 10:45

19. darkkjedii (Posts: 21165; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Exactly, I challeng anyone to post an article where I'm the attacker. I will however respond to an attack. I come here to talk tech, and get insulted on my race to my family to my physique lol, but I'm the attacker lol. Rite.

posted on 02 Oct 2014, 12:57 1

24. maherk (Posts: 3705; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)


Stop playing the race card for God's sake. I don't recall anyone being racist to you on this site, but we are so sick of your silly stories. Look at me, I workout for 2 hours every day, I have a hot wife and our 1st anniversary is on the same day the iPhone 6 will be released on, I will buy this, I will buy that, I have a note 3(to add more credibility to my story that I am a real tech guy and not an Apple sucker), oh and I also have a fetish for young asian chicks.
WE ALL FREAKEN GET IT!! you don't have to keep repeating the same boring comments, if people didn't buy your fantasy stories, repeating them over and over won't help you.

posted on 02 Oct 2014, 14:36

25. darkkjedii (Posts: 21165; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


I love how you jock the Jed.

posted on 02 Oct 2014, 18:34 1

28. JMartin22 (Posts: 1969; Member since: 30 Apr 2013)


Please get over your personal vendetta and self-conceited ways that people care about your bloviating and your tendency to sit there and victimize yourself with this baseless race-laden garbage. You're no "tech guy" you're an Apple shill-in and that's fine. But stop pretending and be upfront about it.

posted on 02 Oct 2014, 12:45 1

23. engineer-1701d (unregistered)


all that has to happen to stop apple cold is irs gets cook for tax evasion puts him in jail and google pulls youtube apps from apple and samsung stops making everything for them and sony also.
thats why apple needs to be fake to the others, without them they are done.

posted on 02 Oct 2014, 12:44

22. engineer-1701d (unregistered)


the thing is android people will still hate on android when they do stupid things and oems but apple people always hate on android and there builders.

posted on 02 Oct 2014, 05:46 3

10. hassoups (Posts: 473; Member since: 06 Jun 2013)


so true.

posted on 02 Oct 2014, 05:30 3

8. brrunopt (Posts: 742; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)


those 14nm are merketing, it wont relly be 14nm. It will still be 20nm but with the change from planar to FinFet

posted on 02 Oct 2014, 05:47 2

11. vincelongman (Posts: 4398; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)


I read that's its because 20nm FinFet is as efficient as 14nm planar
Is that true?

Also what about Intel?
I think they how been using their Tri-gate FinFET for a couple years now
Last year it was 22 nm, they say at the end of this year they are releasing 14 nm

This article is quite interesting, though I dont really know what its saying to be honest haha
https://www.semiwiki.com/forum/content/3884-who-will-lead-10nm.html

posted on 02 Oct 2014, 08:01

17. brrunopt (Posts: 742; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)


yes , but Intel 22nm or 14nm is actual 22nm and 14nm , they are not naming their process based on the planar equivalent.

Intel is using 22nm with 3D Tri-gate ( = FinFET) and will start using this year 14nm with 3D Tri-gate

posted on 02 Oct 2014, 15:37

27. vincelongman (Posts: 4398; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)


Ok thanks for explaining
Intel's Broadwell is gonna be amazing, cant wait to see the next Surface Pro 4 or other powerful hybrids

posted on 02 Oct 2014, 08:17 1

18. Iodine (Posts: 1329; Member since: 19 Jun 2014)


The transistors are 14nm and Fin-Fet which explains that huge efficiency gain, but the interconetcts between transistors are still "20nm" class... Like you got a array of LED's but you were connecting them with a thick wall-cable.

You got the power compustion and speed of 14nm, but the size of chips would not shrink that much at all (the article states a 15% smaller size, a true shrink to 14 nm would result to about half the size) and that could be problem to many.

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