Samsung scores major victory regarding jury instructions
0. phoneArena 20 Aug 2012, 13:37 posted on
Samsung was able to even the score on jury instructions, as Judge Koh overturned a ruling that would have singled out the Korean tech giant for having failed to preserve evidence...
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39. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5975; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Members of the jury don't know about Apple not saving e-mails, either. I bet they take a similar dim view as well.
Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander....
7. J-LoTheGreat (Posts: 32; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)
So where are all those Judge Koh haters now?
11. MartyK (Posts: 728; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)
She knows Samsung has so so many grounds for appeal, she is trying to clean up as many as possible, don't want to look too bad in the eyes of her colleagues!.
8. quakan (Posts: 1236; Member since: 02 Mar 2011)
I feel like both Apple and Samsung will leave this case with a sour taste in their mouth. Neither of them will be fully satisfied with the outcome.
33. McLTE (Posts: 714; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Hopefully enough of a sour taste for all major players in the phone space to take note.. STOP being petty suing bastards.. and just make products.
Apple needs to quit being so goddamn.. I don't know.. bully-ish? Childish? Premadonna?
Samsung needs to wake up and ensure they aren't copying others.
Though I argue that Apple asserting patents for rectangular objects with rounded corners is absolutely insane.
9. ricodroid (Posts: 16; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)
lol ... i hope this hilarious bull**** is done .. cause its embarassing honestly ..
56. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
Apple is embarrassing everyone. But they don't care.
12. themayorman (Posts: 3; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)
Apple is highly successful in all their products, but the competition is working harder, and they are getting lazy, so eventually they will fall like so many other great brands. Spending all their time and resources with litigation in court, vs. spending R+D dollars will catch up. The last roung of improvements to the 4s were pathetic. I think Samsung and HTC will launch superior products to the iPhone 5 in September....
13. ilia1986 (unregistered)
The time has come to make this world our own! The time has come to destroy Apple!
One vision! One purpose! The technology of Open source!
Peace through power! Peace through power!
15. good2great (Posts: 1040; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
ban apple... force everyone to "choose" android?
17. ilia1986 (unregistered)
There is also webOS, WP8, BB10.
ban Android = force everyone to choose Apple.
18. good2great (Posts: 1040; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
according to the numbers webOS, WP8, BB10 not really getting any love.
and the tone of your post definitely suggest it...
i guess you thumbed me down, so i'll return the favor...haha
100. ilia1986 (unregistered)
I didn't thumb you down.
And again - if Apple makes Android unprofitable - what do you think it'l do next? Leave the rest of the OSs in peace?
37. McLTE (Posts: 714; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Um yeah.. Apple2 in the making here?
Look.. I don't want Apple to go away. Without them, who knows where the phone industry would be right now. They've done some great things and definitely pushed others to up their game.
What I'd like to have happen is for Apple to compete by INNOVATING... bring amazing things to market that casues other manufacturers to scramble to keep up!
Instead right now Apple is choosing to lag and bask in their porky profits, while trying to squish all others. They will fall.. may not be this year or next, but they will fall going this route.
41. Non_Sequitur (Posts: 1111; Member since: 16 Mar 2012)
All they really did was show other manufacturers that there was a market for smartphones/tablets. They didn't invent or innovate anything.
Apple was cool back in the rainbow days when they made the first Macintosh computers. That was pretty cool and innovative, gotta give kudos to them for that.
14. TheRetroReplay (Posts: 245; Member since: 20 Mar 2012)
In the beginning Koh was favoring Apple but now she seems to be favoring Samsung. I guess after all the evidence was presented she realized how stupid this is and how much of a childish thief Apple is being.
16. good2great (Posts: 1040; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
she's not favoring anyone... you guys that come here and pick sides seem to think that...
she's only being fair and following the rules...
20. khmer (Posts: 93; Member since: 21 Jun 2012)
Apple accused Samsung copycat is losing Apple sales, look at Apple now highest market value in the World history $620+billions. In 2000's without Samsung supplied of components Apple will never reach this high in market value and profit. Apple must scrap and drop all lawsuits and say thank you to Samsung.
28. -box- (Posts: 3913; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
Without samsung's (and Intel's) parts, Nokia's patents, LG's designs, and Microsoft's money, apple would be in the dustbin of history
23. The_Innovation (Posts: 574; Member since: 18 Jul 2012)
Many lawyers made insane amounts of money over this.
That's America for you.
29. remixfa (Posts: 14223; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
which judicial system with laywers dont the layers make a ton of money?
46. The_Innovation (Posts: 574; Member since: 18 Jul 2012)
In countries where you don't have two multi-billion dollar companies sueing each other over who has the bigger d**k.
51. remixfa (Posts: 14223; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
which country is that? lol
The scales of economy may be different, but you will find little difference in the type of BS, law stretching, time wasting d**k measuring contest cases out there.
54. The_Innovation (Posts: 574; Member since: 18 Jul 2012)
Believe it or not, almost all of Europe is very conservative. Yes they get sued, in the U.S. All these lawsuits are happening over the U.S. sales market. I haven't really heard of a case where Sony for instance was suing Panasonic in Japan over stuff like this.
62. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
Well said. Even here in UK this don't happen. And even if it was, justice will be done wisely!
25. AppleWho (banned) (Posts: 57; Member since: 06 Aug 2012)
go to school, become a lawyer for an OEM - make money - laugh at OEMs....
34. gallitolimitededition (banned) (Posts: 18; Member since: 16 Aug 2012)
I feel that both Sagmsung and Apple will not get what they ask for and will not be happy at the end, This is by no means a victory by Samsung but right now they will take anything
48. tedkord (Posts: 5514; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
Naughty boy, sneaking around you ban...
Anyway, I think Apple are going to walk away from this trial much worse off than Samsung. I really believe their damage award will be minimal, maybe even offset by Samsung's award, but they will see secrets of their silly patents invalidated, and their iron fist will become Tim.
52. remixfa (Posts: 14223; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
the bans are so flimsy I dont know that anyone actually stays banned when they are banned lol. taco had like 7 alt accounts he got busted on last time he was banned for any length of time
64. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
I'm assuming is Mxzyptlk Taco? Cause he gets thumbed down heavily, like Taco!
73. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5975; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
It would seem that taco is resorting to old tricks that got him a longer vacation last time around.
84. tedkord (Posts: 5514; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
Ah, but was it Taco, or his evil spoofing twin?
He was probably not even hiding his ip address. But when confronted, would claim that an ip address isn't unique to a particular device.
82. tedkord (Posts: 5514; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
Goddamned incorrect! Here's what I typed:
Naughty boy, sneaking around your ban...
Anyway, I think Apple are going to walk away from this trial much worse off than Samsung. I really believe their damage award will be minimal, maybe even offset by Samsung's award, but they will see several of their silly patents invalidated, and their iron fist will become tin.
38. Iphone4 (unregistered)
I don’t want Samsung to loose. To me when you go to any store to buy anything like TV, Washing machine, Dishwasher, Blu-ray Player the all look the same. Why the hell Apple going on and on about design its all crap they know Samsung will crush there iphone