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Samsung scores a 3G patent litigation win against Apple, will seek compensation

0. phoneArena 20 Jun 2012, 09:25 posted on

Samsung said it will now seek compensation from Apple for the violation of patent EP1188269, or, alternatively, this gives boosts up its negotiating power in the ongoing patent skirmish between the two mobile giants, which have 50% of the lucrative smartphone market between them, and 90% of the profits...

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posted on 20 Jun 2012, 12:49

56. gallitoking (Posts: 4690; Member since: 17 May 2011)


is very simple I dont care... I made a comment because I see Apple winning the big cases. thats all... you are the one disputing everything...

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 12:54 3

58. tedkord (Posts: 4960; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


I see, you say you want proof about Apple's shady practices because it comes from Fandroids. I tell you about an instance, you want links. I give you links, now you don't care. I get the same sort of argument from my 10 year old.

So, you can't defend Apple's use of a patent on a stolen bit of IP to sue for a totally unrelated action? That's surprising.

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 14:00 1

61. gallitoking (Posts: 4690; Member since: 17 May 2011)


I never ask you for links..the links doesn't prove anything.. is coming from another judge.. I can get you another judge that will agree with Apple.. so when I ask for proof that links is not a proof.. is an opinion from a different judge not assign to that case..

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 14:26 5

64. tedkord (Posts: 4960; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Oh, ok. A judges ruling and statement aren't proof. Gotcha. Do you take psychiatric meds?

Can you not see your own post a few above this where you say, "show me a link?" Now you say you never asked for links? On the same page where you ask for a link. Mind boggling.

Here's what happened. You can't rationalize Apple's behavior. You tried your best, but you can't find any explanation in which Apple isn't simply a patent troll in this case, so now you just want to ignore it. Pretend you never saw it, claim you never asked for the link. Sad. Very transparently sad.

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 14:58

69. aikonix (Posts: 59; Member since: 08 Apr 2012)


44. gallitoking posted on 2 hours ago 0 3
sorry but I ask for facts not personal opinion.. show me a link... typical fandroids need to tagteam to beat one Apple fan

you didnt ask for links??? dude grow some brains

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 16:14

73. gallitoking (Posts: 4690; Member since: 17 May 2011)


I also requested facts that were never brought to me.. the link it vcan not be a fact.. judges do that all the time have different opinions but since they dont have all the evidence in front of them.. so ok I wanted links but with facts facts.. ok there. Soory fandroids have to be told like kindergartens...

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 17:11 2

76. tedkord (Posts: 4960; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Here are the facts:

1) Neonode n1m had slide to unlock in 2006.
2) Apple patented slide to unlock after 2006.
3) Apple sued Motorola for violating this patent
4) In its suit, Apple claimed that Motorola having an unlock via tapping an icon violates its patent because a tap is a "zero length swipe."

There. Nothing there can be considered an opinion. Everything is fact, and can be looked up.

Now, please explain to me how Apple's actions are justifiable, and not an abuse of the patent system and legal system.

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 18:57

80. gallitoking (Posts: 4690; Member since: 17 May 2011)


well i am to busy to investigate but based on your facts my opinion is this,,,

Apple PATENTED.. see what I did there.. here in the U.S is what you can prove ... lesson learn for Neonode right.... thats how O.J was innocent

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 19:08 1

81. tedkord (Posts: 4960; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


I see you equate Apple's actions with OJ's. That seems about right.

I notice you skipped over the main point of my post. Suing because a tap is a zero length swipe. You still haven't explained how that isn't an abuse of patents.

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 19:17

83. gallitoking (Posts: 4690; Member since: 17 May 2011)


let me find out more about that subject... cuz i dont know..

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 19:37 1

86. tedkord (Posts: 4960; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Fair enough.

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 14:45

68. aikonix (Posts: 59; Member since: 08 Apr 2012)


Dude.. the fact that EVERYONE talks about how "Apple sues over the shape of your phone" how Apple sues for the color of the phone.. How Apple sues for a phone number hyperlink in a phone.. what else.... hmmmm

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 12:25 2

46. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


You're too young to understand these things.

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 15:00 5

70. aikonix (Posts: 59; Member since: 08 Apr 2012)


taco, the same goes for you... but your actually to stupid to understand all things

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 11:44 2

34. RapidCat (Posts: 351; Member since: 12 Jun 2012)


i think apple need to learn word "copy" and "steal"

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 11:58 5

37. tedkord (Posts: 4960; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


If Apple weren't suing for rectangles, rows of grids, and "zero length swipes", I wouldn't be cheering when they lose a suit.

I generally don't cheer when someone gets killed, but I sure had a little smile when Saddam Hussein swung from a rope, and when Khadaffi was beaten and shot to death, and when Bin Laden had his brain pushed through the back of his head by an American bullet. \

Apple brings this kind of hatred on itself.

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 12:23 1

45. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Actually no one hates Apple except for a few ignorant Internet trolls.

Apple is actually one of the most admired companies in the world.

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 12:30 8

50. tedkord (Posts: 4960; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


And no one thinks Android ripped of iOS except a few ignorant trolls. Android is the most successful mobile OS in the world.

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 12:52

57. gallitoking (Posts: 4690; Member since: 17 May 2011)


sucessfull. when 90% of the Android phones have not been updated to a version out 9 months ago.. yes very sucessfull.. indeed..

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 12:56 4

59. tedkord (Posts: 4960; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


60% market share to iOS's 30%.
Yes, the most successful.

900,000 activations per day.
Yes, the most successful

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 13:48

60. gallitoking (Posts: 4690; Member since: 17 May 2011)


less than 50% in customer satisfaction... your phone will not be supported after 6 months... yes dominates market share but also in returns an unsatisfied customers...

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 14:30 1

65. tedkord (Posts: 4960; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


You have no idea about return numbers.

In the one minute you wrote that post, over 600 new Abdroid devices were activated. If Android were so awful and unsatisfactory, it wouldn't keep growing. Windows mobile was on dozens if devices at all price points, and it died. Because it was awful (compared to other choices)

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 16:18

74. gallitoking (Posts: 4690; Member since: 17 May 2011)


how long have you read PA.. there was an article here in PA about it. which fandroids disputed.. so yes I am right sir.

but since I am allowed to edit here it goes mr clueless

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Apples-iOS-tops-the -customer-satisfaction-charts-Android-holds-third- place_id20512

and a...
Android loses out to iPhone bigtime in JD Power Satisfaction Ratings
google that and see what you get.. ok..

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 17:15 1

77. tedkord (Posts: 4960; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Um, no, you're not. Ignoring that the article is a year old, it doesn't say a thing about return numbers. Nowhere in that article does it mention how many of any phone or platform are returned.

So, once again, you have no idea about return numbers.

BTW, since we started this argument, over 300,000 new android devices were activated. Most successful mobile OS in the world.

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 18:31

79. gallitoking (Posts: 4690; Member since: 17 May 2011)


you talked about number I talked about porcentage.. 50% unsatisfied returns from Androids. the bigger the number of activations than the bigger the returns ( in numbers of course)

yes the article is one year old but trust me it hasnt changed much..

found this in 2012 told you hasnt changed much.. so just drop it

http://www.loopinsight.com/2012/01/09/iphone-satis faction-at-75-closest-competitor-at-47/

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2402202,00.asp

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 19:12 1

82. tedkord (Posts: 4960; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Nice try twisting things around. Satisfaction percentages are not return percentages. Just admit you have no idea how many Android phones are returned. By your logic, since Apple has a 70% satisfaction rating, then 30% are returned. Do you really believe that?

You have absolutely no idea how many phones of any kind are returned.

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 19:19

84. gallitoking (Posts: 4690; Member since: 17 May 2011)


who cares ( in numbers) how many are returns.. when I am looking to buy a smart phone customer satisfaction is a top reason to buy Apple..

making Apple and it satisfied customer the best OS

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 19:28 1

85. tedkord (Posts: 4960; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


There you go again. Once you're proven wrong, you revert to, "I don't care how many..." That's so kindergarten.

When I am looking to buy a smartphone, I look for power, features and customizability, top reasons to buy Android.

posted on 21 Jun 2012, 00:48

89. gallitoking (Posts: 4690; Member since: 17 May 2011)


how was I proven wrong when we are both speaking about different. besides.. u wil never admit defeat when it comes to customer satisfaccion and returns Androids takes a back seat to Apple,..

those reaso to buy Android makes you a geek.. 1--2% of the U.S population.. congrats.. the rest just want a free device...

posted on 21 Jun 2012, 09:08

92. tedkord (Posts: 4960; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Here is how you were wrong. You made the statement that Android was #1 in returns. You have no idea how many returns ANY phone has.

You made a statement which you could not back up, so you tried to massage other numbers in, claiming that a 50% satisfaction rating meant 50% returns. So I pointed out the error in that logic.

You were wrong in your statement that Android us number 1 in returns, because you have no knowledge about returns of any phone.

posted on 21 Jun 2012, 11:09

93. gallitoking (Posts: 4690; Member since: 17 May 2011)


leave the numbers and use common sense.. if a customer is satisfied most likely again using common sense they wont return the phone.. on the other side if 50% are unsatisfied ..guess what will return phones.. that explains the high number of activations... they try another Android, diference is that this time it was not a free device... I could prove to you Android leads in returns.. but is unnesesary when Android customers are unsatsified..

posted on 21 Jun 2012, 14:24

95. tedkord (Posts: 4960; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


It might be common sense if JD Powers poll consisted of two possible answers - either I love my phone totally, or I loathe my phone totally. In reality, these sorts of polls generally consist of a number if questions, each with a ranking of between 1 (totally unsatisfied), and 10 (totally satisfied).

There is absolutely no way to correlate number of returns from this survey. It's impossible.

I will day it again. You have absolutely zero idea how many Androids are returned. As I pointed out earlier, your logic says that 30% of iPhones are returned.

All you need to do us admit you have no information about how many Android phones are returned.

And, your point about activations being high because of returns is silly. If that were the case, activations would have spiked, and dropped. Instead they've steadily increased.

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 15:51 3

71. networkdood (Posts: 6276; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


Apple fans are delusional if they believe that its beloved company does not ever copy/steal/infringe on or from others.

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 17:20 4

78. tedkord (Posts: 4960; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


They should have just called iOS6 Gingerbread Lite.

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 20:22 1

88. spoks (Posts: 44; Member since: 01 Jun 2012)


this is what i thought when i first read the new features in iOS6.. it made me laugh big time... just realized that im very lucky to have bought a galaxy note last january, because i was confused before between Note or 4S...

Now, im very happy with my Note... especially now that i upgraded to ICS...

posted on 21 Jun 2012, 00:49

90. gallitoking (Posts: 4690; Member since: 17 May 2011)


which is the same version on 80% of Android devices.. so we are on even grounds after all...

posted on 21 Jun 2012, 14:15

94. tedkord (Posts: 4960; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


I said Gingerbread LITE.

posted on 21 Jun 2012, 14:32

96. remixfa (Posts: 13942; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


no, we have gingerbread FULL. lol

posted on 20 Jun 2012, 16:41 1

75. networkdood (Posts: 6276; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


your and you're are different words

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