Samsung says Galaxy S III coming to five U.S. carriers this month, each with 2GB of RAM
0. phoneArena 04 Jun 2012, 00:21 posted on
Samsung has just announced that the Samsung Galaxy S III will be coming to five U.S. carriers sometime this month; Verizon, Sprint., AT&T, T-Mobile and U.S. Cellular will each be able to offer its customers the highly anticipated device and each version will come with 2GB of RAM...
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1. Jay_F (Posts: 236; Member since: 29 Nov 2011)
Finally a highly anticipated phone that gets launched on all major carriers so a giant group of people don't get screwed. Good news.
33. Galen20K (Posts: 527; Member since: 26 Dec 2008)
Amen to that! No matter which carrier you're on, we all win, I think I like that idea. : )
76. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)
Better than waiting for the slow NEXUS to be on every carrier.
2. imkyle (Posts: 1058; Member since: 18 Nov 2010)
Damn 2GB of ram... The only time a carrier phone may be better than getting the international version :)
21. SprintPower (Posts: 74; Member since: 29 Dec 2008)
not necessarily. remember the international is quad core. the US version is only dual core. They probably HAD to add the extra ram to get it to perform with properly with the new voice software.
31. robocopvn (Posts: 352; Member since: 10 Mar 2010)
And you please remember, Tegra 3 or newest Exynos is built on the old SOC system (40nm Cortex A9 with Tegra3 and 32nm Cortex A9 with Exynos quad) when S4 is built on the newer one (28nm Cortex A15). That's why number of cores or clock speed is not as important as SOC's structure.
E.g : I'm pretty sure my laptop core I5 out-performs my Desktop Dualcore with the same clock speed :D
I just find out this great article:http://www.anandtech.com/show/
don't let the number tricks you :D
35. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
you couldnt be more wrong
The S4 is a "A15 equivilant", it is not an A15, and it doesnt perform like one. Its a smidge ahead of the T3, which is 40nm quadcore, and way below the Exynos 4212 built on 32nm quadcore. The exynos also built on more advanced tech than the S4.
Instead of using the preview from Anandtech, use the SGS3 international benchmark suite they did that shows that whenever the FPS limiter is off, the Exynos with Mali400 obliterates the S4 and T3 in REAL devices. Stock qualcomm reference design set ups do not count for bench scores
. It also gets better battery life.
The american versions are getting more ram so they have more room to streamline operations to make up for the power deficiencies of the S4. There are some things like hyperthreading, that just work better with more cores. What's hyper threaded? Well that moving video window feature for one, and a whole lot of games for two.
Where it actually falls in performance we wont know until the american version is properly benchmarked and compared to the international version. But if nothing is properly optimized, the international version is far and away the better choice.
39. ph00ny (Posts: 819; Member since: 26 May 2011)
Can you also please remember that TSMC 28nm is a half node
Tegra3 comment is understandable since it uses a single 32bit channel memory bandwidth whereas everyone but apple's ipad3 uses dual channel memory controllers (ipad3 has quad channel)
As for Exynos it's built on 32nm HKMG with a lot of power saving trickery. aSMP, individually power gated cores, etc
Until S4 quad with Adreno320 is released in products, A9 quad core SoCs will have its place in mobile devices
3. 1ceTr0n (Posts: 548; Member since: 20 May 2012)
So they nerf the biggest smartphone launch of the year for the USA comes nerfed a dual core instead of the quad core? Well that's just lame as all hell. Even more reason to stick with my Note. An extra gig of RAM, woopee.
Seriously, why the fuck do we get shafted outa the newest and greatest tech vs rest of world?
4. imkyle (Posts: 1058; Member since: 18 Nov 2010)
The dual core S4 gets 5000+ in quadrant vs nvidia's 4000+ quad core. Now granted the quad core exynos gets 5000 too, but many people agree that the AT&T's version of the One X is better than the international quad core. S4 dual core is very impressive and a major upgrade from the S3's.
9. imkyle (Posts: 1058; Member since: 18 Nov 2010)
I've learned over the last 4 months, that a quad core doesn't automatically mean that it is better than a dual core. Go into an AT&T store and try the One X. I was shocked how fast that device is.
11. cepcamba (Posts: 717; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)
Well, trading the quad core Exynos for a dual core Krait with 2GB RAM is a fair enough deal for me.
I mean, yes the Exynos is the most powerful chip as of the moment but the dual core Krait is no slouch either. It's easily the 2nd best overall but with a 2GB RAM things are more or less equal.
23. Forsaken77 (Posts: 552; Member since: 09 Jun 2011)
He means the dual core version is faster, or just as fast as the quad core version. So there's no reason to bitch about it. Quad core is totally unnecessary on a phone anyway.
67. medicci37 (Posts: 1156; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)
The Exynos is quite a bit faster than the S4.
25. chadrick0814 (Posts: 208; Member since: 23 Nov 2011)
You don't get shafted. Go online and buy the international version.
36. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
you ever think this phone isnt for people that bought the Note or SGS2? Its for people that still have the SGS1 or other devices.
Phones are meant to be on a 2 year upgrade cycle, and thats what they are designed for. Not a 1 year or less cycle.
42. greathero1 (Posts: 553; Member since: 13 Jun 2008)
So are you going to get one? The white one is kind of growing on me. Either this or an Evo LTE.
45. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
it absolutely depends on the synthetic benchmarks at this moment in time. They need to convince me that the extra ram and some technological wizardry will make the S4 perform close enough to the exynos 4412 that I will get past my distaste for the crapdragon.
If they can push it to about 10% shy of the 4412, I'll get it. If the power divide stays as it is... probably not. I'm not a big fan of trade offs in key areas that I hold high.
78. whothisperson (Posts: 102; Member since: 06 May 2012)
I know how you feel, my intentions is to get the pebble blue because of its unique color than plain old white but at the same time white looks nice.
74. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)
you only GET a 5" screen and a stylist that's bout it. I may wait for the GALAXY NOTE II
32. kshell1 (Posts: 1143; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
verizons will also be $100 more than tmobile or US or ATT or sprint so best maybe specs wise but i doubt that because more than likely will be identical, also the price will make difference
43. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5690; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
that's rather presumptuous wouldn't you say? xD
56. kshell1 (Posts: 1143; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
presumptuous yes but we all know verizon is overpriced.
60. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5690; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
go to Verizon's site and tell me one thing that's overpriced. :P
61. kshell1 (Posts: 1143; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
Apparently prices have changed from what they once were. Ever since the release of the spectrum they have all dropped to $199 or $99
34. Galen20K (Posts: 527; Member since: 26 Dec 2008)
Every carrier's version will be physically identical this time, why do you think they are able to release it so quickly?? no six month delay for carrier changes THIS year! woot - D
37. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
Tmobile's will be the best.
they will all be the same, but if there is bloatware, Tmobile will have the least, the plans are by far the cheapest by nearly half of VZW, and its 42mb hspa+.
Total cost of ownership goes into which is "best".
44. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5690; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
it also won't compete directly with the Droid Razr HD. ;P
46. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
lol. I dont think the Razr HD can compete with the SGS3. The galaxy has something the HD doesnt.. tons and tons of hype to nearly iphone levels. Besides, what chipset is in the HD?
48. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5690; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
the Razr series is quite popular here on Verizon. most of the SIII hype is for the International markets. the Razr HD will have better build quality, it'll be water resistant, it'll have Motorola Radios, an immensely better Webtop experience, a large 3300mAh battery, a better camera might be in the fold and a better UI. there's 3 possibilities in order of likelyhood. an S4 @ around 1.5GHz, an OMAP4470 @ 1.8GHz or an OMAP5 @ an undisclosed frequency.
49. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
if its the older OMAP, sales reps will get turned off and not sell it. if its the S4, the SGS3 will still outsell it. Build quality is subjective. Webtop is a minority feature. the SGS3 has the hype in the USA as well and it has more "hype features" like S-Voice and such like that. If it has the Omap5, that would be a stand out feature, but the chip hasnt even found its way to an official announcement yet, so unless the HD is coming out at christmas, i doubt its omap5.
They are both gonna be great phones and which one is better will be subjective.... but as far as sales, the SGS3 is going to eat up the android market.
52. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5690; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
in reality a 4470 clocked that high could perform on par with an S4, the only way that would be pulled off is with that MAXX battery it'll have. the high clock frequency will create an impression if that's the factor you're pointing out. i don't know about that, you see the effect the MAXX has made. purely by sales on VZW the HD has more than a chance. Webtop 3.0 may be viewed as a gimmick but it is incredibly nice to use and is very practical for business users. that's why the OMAP5 was at the end of my list but TI has been so shady that i don't think there's any real solid info about it. i was just talking about popularity on Verizon hence my original remark.
51. kingpet13 (Posts: 139; Member since: 02 Feb 2012)
I am very excited for the razr hd. Untill the razr I felt like motorola was falling behind. Based on what I know about it I would rather the razr hd than any non international version of the s3. I just hope that they make it as good as it sounds.
53. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5690; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
me too. the HD will definitely be the SIII's prime competition.
40. ph00ny (Posts: 819; Member since: 26 May 2011)
verizon is the worst..
worst for updates
worst for 3g data speeds
worst for bloatware
one of the more expensive carriers around
47. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5690; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
Verizon has the most customer satisfaction along with T-Mobile.
best 3G coverage
best LTE Coverage
i don't know why you have in your head updates are any slower on VZW than anywhere else but that's an exaggerated concern.
54. -box- (Posts: 3982; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
This is accurate, except I believe sprint has slightly worse 3G speeds (they are the slowest of the big 4). $30 for only 2GB where you get 3 from AT&T, slowest rollout of ICS for their phones, still no major update to the Nexus... Only think Verizon has that sets it apart is the Droid line, and that isn't all that special anymore. That being said, the RAZR is an excellent device, but is now last generation, so no longer worth the contract
57. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5690; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
Verizon always does 4GB for $30 deals. AT&T & T-Mobile only have one ICS UPDATE each over VZW, 2 for T-Mo in a few days and that's not even counting the XOOM and then there's the other points i made.
62. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
Tmobile has the most 4g coverage and half the price. :) HSPA+ is also more battery efficient than LTE. :)
total cost of ownership of a super phone on Tmobile is like 2000 less than it is on VZW.
the trick is, if your in a VZW or ATT LTE market, your also in an Tmobile HSPA+42 market. So unless you travel outside population centers, your just paying more. :)
70. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5690; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
not the 42mbps variety. it eats battery just as much as LTE. i know, i've dealt with plenty of both. i can't say much about the coverage because T-Mobile is the only carrier i haven't actually had but if Verizon ever displeases me which i doubt they will i'd go to T-Mobile. i give HSPA+ 42mbps it's props for being on par with LTE now but LTE has more long term potential. remember T-Mobile is going LTE at some point as well. Verizon's focus entirely on LTE is the smarter move in the long term.
7. 09wbd03516 (banned) (Posts: 140; Member since: 30 May 2012)
F**k carrier!! We want exynos!!
8. jove39 (Posts: 1554; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Awesome news...with 2gb of ram...I hope...there are far less round trips to nand storage :)
10. cheeseycheeser (Posts: 413; Member since: 24 Mar 2011)
Woah! I know what i want for Christmas c:
13. Sniggly (Posts: 7296; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Verizon is probably waiting to launch this phone until they roll out their new data plans, just like they did with the Droid 3 and Bionic last year.
This will be a nice launch. Now if Motorola just steps up its game and releases its new awesome phones, and we'll have a hat trick of awesomeness on at least two or three of the major carriers. :)
26. Ubi2447 (Posts: 131; Member since: 14 Feb 2012)
If thats the case then I'll just wait and nab the Razr HD. I think it's safe to say that once that happens the Razr HD won't be far behind. I would personally prefer it over the SGSIII.
14. Xquisite (Posts: 87; Member since: 23 Apr 2012)
Hopefully the Verizon version has the three on screen keys like the Gnex(Sorry got a seriously bad hangover and can't remember the technical name for it)
But I wish they just had a black version, the pebble blue is ugly. I can stand the white though.
15. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Whoa! Now I want to import this one to Europe :p
2GB RAM + LTE - more than a fair trade for the Exynos version
18. hung2900 (Posts: 899; Member since: 02 Mar 2012)
Yeah yeah 2Gb Ram for no multitasking issue!
I wonder how S4 controls the memory usage. From a video on youtube, I see Ram used is more than 900 on LG optimus lte 2.
27. Saamic (Posts: 119; Member since: 20 Feb 2012)
It scares me how each carrier is recieving a customized version... I don't want them to screw anything up
30. Saamic (Posts: 119; Member since: 20 Feb 2012)
On The Verge they say that there won't be any variants O_o ???
28. medicci37 (Posts: 1156; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)
I guess all of my b*tching about the SGlll having only 1 gig of Ram paid off. LOL jk
29. ilia1986 (unregistered)
Well that just means that the US versions will get a LOT of bloatware, me thinks. Why else market with 2GB of Ram? :P
38. ananya22 (Posts: 93; Member since: 23 Apr 2012)
i believe it will perform just as good or better than the international version in benchmarks and real life performance. i have seen the difference between a pc with more ram compared to another with a same processor with less ram. i am sure twice the ram is what i'd prefer
41. Jeradiah3 (Posts: 1018; Member since: 11 Feb 2010)
Hopefully all 5 versions would be the same price. it'll bring more competition because every carrier have different perks to lure customers like US Cellular have member rewards and Sprint has unltd data. I have AT&T and im sticking with the Note because theres not much difference between the two and im a big guy so i need a big phone!
For those of you that are looking to upgrade or change carriers, this is the phone for you. which carrier will have the best version of the S3...................Phone Arena should do a comparison to find out!!
50. Gcombs (Posts: 133; Member since: 22 Aug 2011)
All will have the same internal hardware besides radio.It will come down to the price of service plan and coverage for most. I could see Verizon just offering the 32GB version just so they can have that $299 price point in my opinion but hope they offer the 16GB version as well.