Samsung says Apple iPhone and iPad infringe on its intellectual property
0. phoneArena 16 Sep 2011, 22:41 posted on
In Australia, Samsung turned the tables on Apple by suing the Cupertino based firm there, saying that the Apple iPhone and Apple iPad infringe on the Korean manufacturer's intellectual property; Samsung alleges that Apple is infringing on 7 patents dealing with wireless communications standards...
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1. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
Samsung and Apple should just call it even and stop the patent wars ......but, APPLE is a GREEDY S.O.B. (figuratively speaking, of course).
11. Life (unregistered)
As Apple goes down the dominance of the western world will go down. East Asian companies and their markets will be the largest in the world. South Korean companies like Samsung, LG etc., will make their own operating systems soon and will also overtake this market. Other top companies from Taiwan -TSMC, HTC, China -ZTE, Huawei , Japan - sony etc. will see a rise as Western companies like Nokia, RIM go down. Well all of this depends on the products they launch, the market conditions and most importantly; peoples' response.
Not just business, standard of living, country's economy will change accordingly. RIM has also reported a drop in earnings. Western world is going down.
36. dj (unregistered)
what is this new operating system youre talking about? no other company will use bada other than samsung and im sure lg's os will be the same. tsmc, htc zte, huawei and sony are not using bada or lg's mystery os. sorry life, the only company that can have their own os and be successful is apple.
37. dj (unregistered)
if this is the east asian innovation that you speak of, i think apple/western dominance will be fine for a very long time
46. Cool (unregistered)
If you want to avoid a European recession buy Nokia phones.
47. Life (unregistered)
By OS I do not mean bada. Something new samsung is developing. Apple is critisized a lot in its own country. I think this must stop; the consequences, as I have posted above.
35. bobfreking55 (Posts: 866; Member since: 15 Jul 2011)
Apple started it. It should end with every single company suing apple until apple dies along with its iProducts and iSheep.
45. iwebdroidberry7 (Posts: 230; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)
2. daniel_bargs (Posts: 325; Member since: 27 Nov 2010)
turning point. now it is the protagonist's turn to fire.
4. disturbing (unregistered)
lol samsung should design its own products not copy its products from someone else.
14. parkwaydr (Posts: 572; Member since: 07 Sep 2011)
yes samsung should focus on themselves instead helping apple so much
18. jacko (unregistered)
if that holds true whos copying who
oh and icloud copy of google cloud
and pull down notification bar
5. cheetah2k (Posts: 1378; Member since: 16 Jan 2011)
To be honest, all of Samsung's cutting edge technology will not be found in another Apple product (eg. SAMOLED screens, high end RAM, etc) purely because of this falling out.
I was really hoping for SAMOLED in the iPhone 5.. Unfortunately, this will never happen.....
7. iphone_user (unregistered)
What is Apple trying to achieve by suing Samsung? Is it just to prove to the world that they are the real innovators and Samsung a copy cat?
Even if they win this round, Samsung will just continue pouring into the market newer versions which sidesteps the patents. Or they can just roll out Windows 8 tablets. There is no way for Apple to win there.
Worse still, with Samsung being the mobile business for so long and owning thousands of patents, they must be able to find one or two to slap Apple back with.... Which is what is happening now.
At the end of the day, Apple will lose, Samsung will lose, millions of dollars which could have been channeled towards R&D, dividends or cost savings.
I think for the good of consumers, these two companies should just sign an agreement to work closer in the future in order to create better products and more cost savings to consumers. I seriously don't see how I am going to gain if Samsung products get banned or vice versa.
Will Apple product suddenly becomes much better than it already is or would be without Samsung products? Nope. Will Apple be less pressured to continue innovating and stay ahead while taking a more draconian approach towards forcing features onto or keeping them away from consumers? Probably.
8. PsiGate (unregistered)
Apple knows that Samsung is a serious competitor and knows that Android is getting more popular. They know that they cant own the market for long specially if Samsung keeps on releasing interesting devices so all they can do is try to block them to as much country as they can. By doing this, people will not have enough choices. There are other choices out there but it will not be as interesting as Samsung I mean all tablets and touch phones looks the same nowadays why are they only blocking Samsung? Personally I find it silly that you will ban a tablet because it looks like an IPad (the galaxy 10.1 doesnt even have a hardware button), all tablets looks the same how else will you design it? The inventor of the wheel should sue all company who sells tires and stuff because all of them infringed on their design or the company who first released the LCD monitor, stupid...
9. rex1213 (Posts: 77; Member since: 29 Jul 2011)
So true. That's why we are thankful Apple wasn't the company who thought about placing four tires in a vehicle or we will never have a car with four wheels today.
In short, what Apple does is anti-competitive and distorts innovation.
I love Apple. I view them as an iconic company even though, arguably, their products are not the most innovative ones available in the market, but still, they deliver unparalleled user experience.
What makes me hate them are these childish lawsuits. They seriously need to stop all of these. It is getting uglier everyday. I hate to see the news section full of updates about lawsuits and court injunctions.
Please Apple, stop these childish lawsuits! I want to read product announcements, NOT COURT PROCEEDINGS UPDATE!
10. cheetah2k (Posts: 1378; Member since: 16 Jan 2011)
The problem with Apple blocking Samsung products, is that they become even more popular & desireable!.
I know so many people here in Australia who have purchased the GTab 10.1 purely because it "feels" more exclusive than the other devices, and they know they're being rebels against Apple's patent war for having it when its banned...
12. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
so now its design vs patent.
man i wonder who has a stronger case there.
Ban apple so they come to an agreement to play nice and end this stupidity.
Hey all you iBots that keep defending Apples bullying by saying "they have a right to defend IP" (even though it was never about IP).. what do you say now that Samsung has turned the table and is DEFENDING ITS IP & Patents against Apple? Still feel the same?
13. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
lol sure they will have some sort of childish remark to say..
25. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Yup still feel the same. If Samsung thinks they have a case they should sue.
I'm not a hypocrite like fandroids. Plus I dont hate tech companies for trying to make money or protect their ip
26. ilia1986 (unregistered)
Hell just froze..
JK. I like what I'm seeing here from you, taco. I just hope that you actually mean what you say.
Keep it up.
27. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
well, yea, you are a hypocrite. you've proven it time and time again. At least your being fair on this issue though. kudos, taco. I didn't expect that answer from you.
19. sarb009 (Posts: 301; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
@kreneo if apple doesn´t suck then it means YOU suck !
20. sarb009 (Posts: 301; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
Apple is just like that child who starts crying when he feels he gonna lose the game
21. AppleFan (unregistered)
Apple doesn't suck it's the best there is.They create there own software unlike Samsung who uses android on top of TouchWiz.
22. sarb009 (Posts: 301; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
yeah the same software which they are using since nearly 5 years. so innovative. yeah apple does suck with patent war by which it wants to eliminate all the competiton so that they can sell iphones for extra huge prices which they are not worth. galaxy 2´s and iphone 4´s prices are same but galaxy 2 is much superior by any aspect. then who sucks ??? ofcourse apple :---
29. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
touchwiz on top of android.
which has had major innovations through TW 1,2,3, and now 4..
unlike ioS which still looks exactly the same.
32. Whateverman (Posts: 3248; Member since: 17 May 2009)
I expected Pete to chime in on this one, but I guess he's busy right now so I'll do it for him.
"Samsung not create their own software. Poor misguided Apple fan, have you never heard of Bada? The greatest OS in all of creation! Bada is 100 MILLION time better than iOS and Android put together and it's only a matter of time before you will all be trading in you iPhones and Droids for the latest innovation in Samsung technology... Bada! Bada! BADA!!!"
I'm kidding Pete, you are one of the coolest guys here so that was just me paying homage to you and your enthusiasm for Bada.
39. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
Well, thankyou. I have not been reading to much on this article as i have been busy doing other things.
I agree with you, bada is better than both IOS and Android ; )
38. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
Samsung has their own software, they have bada !!!
23. AppleFan (unregistered)
How are they suppose to change with what they are offering is already good enough phone designs etc. And apple does much more than just cell phones like Samsung it sells iPod macs and on top of that still has time for the iPhone.
28. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
you realize that the iphone represents 50% of the company's profits at this point? so no, they are making iphones.. and still have time for everything else.
31. bolaG (Posts: 468; Member since: 15 Aug 2011)
Its funny how apple took part of their own market with the iphones lol. ipods sales went down like crazy after they made iphones haha.
33. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Yea how stupid of them to make more money
41. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
darn it.. i feel gross.. i agree with taco again.
they make a lot more money on iphone sale than on ipod sales, and the only real difference is one can make calls and one cant. They sell iphones to carriers for 600 a pop.
30. bolaG (Posts: 468; Member since: 15 Aug 2011)
Sound System/Home theaters
Ipod and accesories for ipods
This is what I can list off the top of my head.Big diffrence from one list to another no? Feel free to add things to either list guys.
42. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
worlds largest ship maker
on and on
samsung literally makes just about everything you can think of.
24. sarb009 (Posts: 301; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
yeah they are making iphones BUT using samsung made hardware !!! well i m not interested in benefits of apple nor in samsung´s. i m interested in my benefit not their. so who sells good featured phone at low price is superior for me and for mostly ppl out there
34. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)
What we should all do IS SOMETHING WITH THE PATENT SYSTEM. APPLE IS SUING EVERY COMPANY THAT'S IPAD/IPHONE like and banning them from other country and APPLE IS VERY AFRAID OF COMPETITION AND DON'T have the BALLS TO ADMIT IT that their scared and afraid of their stocks will drop.
44. Dadler22 (Posts: 161; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)
looks like im in the wrong business, time to be a business lawyer