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Samsung says Apple claims of design copying won't be "legally problematic"

0. phoneArena 01 Jun 2011, 14:00 posted on

The patent lawsuit battle rages on between Samsung and Apple with both sides asking for access to new and upcoming devices, but Samsung doesn't expect to have much trouble with their defense...

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posted on 01 Jun 2011, 14:00 6

3. jroc74 (Posts: 4934; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Hardware wise, I think Apple might not have a case. Software wise? Easy fix: use vanilla Android.

But Apple mentioned the Nexus S for software. Thats really odd since it runs vanilla Android. Apple is trying to be slick and go after Android on the down low.

posted on 02 Jun 2011, 14:26

19. Goldeneye (Posts: 354; Member since: 22 Jan 2011)


Looks like everybody agrees that Apple doesn't have a case hardware wise, but honestly the UI looks like a carbon copy from Samsung, the galaxy phones are dying to be an iPhone, at least that's what the homescreen screams, sure the iPhone doesn't have widgets, customization, etc, but Apple is not suing Android as an OS, but Samsung's skin and they look too similar in my opinion.

posted on 01 Jun 2011, 14:01 3

4. Sniggly (Posts: 7113; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Lol, oops Apple, looks like there's even stronger arguments against your stupid anti competitive lawsuit already. I can't deny that Touchwiz looks similar to the iOS interface, but the similarities aren't glaringly obvious until you open the app tray on the Galaxy S. Besides, if blatantly knocking entirely off of Apple was Samsung's strategy, their strongest variant, the Captivate, wouldn't look so different from the phone.

posted on 01 Jun 2011, 23:11 3

11. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)


why is this an oops apple? and u just said touchwiz looks almost the same as the ios interface... which it completely does... and u really think the captivate was best? i had it but i thought maybe the vibrant was better... and the captivate yes looks different, but what about the fascniate and vibrant? the cud easily be ip 3g knockoffs...

posted on 01 Jun 2011, 23:22 3

12. Sniggly (Posts: 7113; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


So let me get this straight. In regards to physical design, the iPhone gets to have a monopoly on the general shape of a rectangle with curved corners? The Fascinate and Vibrant look even less like the iphone than the base Galaxy S. They're bigger with different buttons on the front, and the backs are curved, which is ergonomically intelligent and more like the previous generations of the iphone than the iphone 4. I'm not going to defend Touchwiz too much (quite frankly, I hate the skin anyway) but physically, Apple has no case. It would be like Henry Ford suing other car manufacturers for having four wheels and a roof.

posted on 01 Jun 2011, 23:27 1

13. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)


no, becuase as u said, they obviously can produce other designs... they dont need to copy apples iphone 3g shape and look... and obviously other companies can produce designs that dont look like the 3g... samsung just got lazy and wasnt very innovative...

posted on 02 Jun 2011, 01:17 1

14. Sniggly (Posts: 7113; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


No, Samsung used design cues that worked. Just because they can design something completely different from the iPhone, it doesn't mean that Apple gets exclusive rights to curved corners and backs on their phones. I mean, it's just such a general couple of physical design cues that you can't justify a copyright claim on it.

posted on 02 Jun 2011, 08:23 1

16. Dark4o90 (Posts: 205; Member since: 20 Feb 2011)


and what would the new design be circle or triangle

posted on 02 Jun 2011, 20:49

20. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)


no a new design wud be a captivate... or an evo... those dont look at all like a 3g...

posted on 01 Jun 2011, 15:08 3

5. kaka (unregistered)


surely this proves that apple has no case.

could the reason as to why the s2 still has no release date in the US is because apple are preventing it?

posted on 01 Jun 2011, 16:22

6. vantenkiest (Posts: 308; Member since: 20 Apr 2011)


more likely the case is over seas is mostly gsm.. and like the first series of GS phones they want to release it close together on all of the carriers that they choose.. so sprint and verizon need cdma models.. maybe the thing is making enough to control the supply and demand ratio. i know i will be getting 5 as they come out. one more me my sister my mother her husband and my bigger larger brother. My fiancee just got the dinc2 so she doesnt get one lol

posted on 01 Jun 2011, 16:34 1

7. WirelessCon (Posts: 309; Member since: 11 May 2010)


Money spent on litigation just comes down to higher prices for the consumer. How does any of this benefit either company? It doesn't if the customer suffers or feels pinched.

posted on 01 Jun 2011, 18:38 3

9. skymitch89 (Posts: 1076; Member since: 05 Nov 2010)


Actually, TouchWiz is a bit different than iOS. iOS isn't as customizable as TouchWiz for starters. Second, TouchWiz is on more devices than iOS is. Third is that TouchWiz has widgets and mostly runs on Android. What's the UI on the Samsung Behold and Samsung Memoir, isn't that the first variation of TouchWiz? Didn't they come out before the iPhone?

posted on 01 Jun 2011, 19:41 3

10. mikeypopps (Posts: 19; Member since: 20 Apr 2011)


I love Touchwiz but the argument Apple will make is the four button grey bar on the bottom, the app draw in page format, the numbers and white points above each page on the home screen or app draw and the colors behind every icon making them uniform.

The Grey bar is similar but is on LG phones too so they better watch out.

The app draw in pages is kinda generic.

The numbers and points are similar but they ore on the bottom of the page in the new touch wiz.

The colors behind the icons is again to generic.

So I say Apple has one definite arguable point the app bar.

posted on 02 Jun 2011, 09:06

17. aries.phills (Posts: 133; Member since: 17 May 2011)


Apple might lose this time. I just don't see any strong arguement on their side.
Well, the outcome might be different from my prediction. Allthesame, I like Iphone 4 and I like galaxy s II even more.

posted on 03 Jun 2011, 23:19

21. BigEaze22 (Posts: 25; Member since: 17 May 2011)


so it looks like it was apple who was copying samsung, then tried to sneak under their noses and claim infringement. damn

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