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Samsung said to be replacing TSMC to produce Apple's next-gen chip

0. phoneArena 17 Jul 2014, 05:16 posted on

KGI Securities analyst Michael Liu told clients on Wednesday, that Samsung will be replacing TSMC in the production of next-gen 14nm smartphone chips for Apple and Qualcomm. Liu said in his report that Samsung would be taking over in the second half of 2015. The Commercisal Times of Korea reported on Thursday, that Qualcomm has already started working with Samsung on the chips...

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posted on 17 Jul 2014, 05:19 1

1. itsdeepak4u2000 (Posts: 2665; Member since: 03 Nov 2012)


Bonding again. Sammy should take out the money now.

posted on 17 Jul 2014, 05:44 6

6. Ashoaib (Posts: 2115; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)


sammy will take out the money but apple will snatch it with some other law suit with the help of icourts

posted on 17 Jul 2014, 18:14 1

36. The-Sailor-Man (limited) (Posts: 885; Member since: 25 Mar 2014)


Samsung have NEVER BEEN OUT of selling chips to Apple.
Apple just tried to give TSMC a small part of the business .
Apple know who has the best technology. It has happened same with the "retina BS" displays and Sharp.

So how could Samsung "REPLACE" TSMC???? LOL
Do not believe every BS of the apple's propaganda.

posted on 17 Jul 2014, 18:22 1

38. AnTuTu (Posts: 815; Member since: 14 Oct 2012)


A father is always a father.

Great job Sammy :)

posted on 17 Jul 2014, 05:33 1

2. JakeLee (banned) (Posts: 1021; Member since: 02 Nov 2013)


You shouldn't trust any Sammy related reports from Korean media.

posted on 17 Jul 2014, 05:35 21

4. Trolloftheyear (banned) (Posts: 66; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


I think you are the troll of the year in PA.

posted on 17 Jul 2014, 05:53 8

8. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


Very well said

+1

He's the new Mxzyptlk aka Mxzy.

Hey guys, we all know who Taco50 was, he is replacing him.

The new Trolloftheyear, goes to Jakelee

Lmfao

posted on 17 Jul 2014, 18:17

37. The-Sailor-Man (limited) (Posts: 885; Member since: 25 Mar 2014)


Samsung have NEVER BEEN OUT of selling chips to Apple, yet.
So how would "replace" TSMC?????

posted on 17 Jul 2014, 08:02 4

17. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6499; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)


You're iPhone parts are made in Korea. From circuit boards. Screen is by LG. Then why bother owning a iPhone?

posted on 17 Jul 2014, 17:01

35. iushnt (Posts: 655; Member since: 06 Feb 2013)


I think all people here should do jakelee a favor and love apple and hate android and hate sammy to the fullest. I am sure if this happens jakelee will be the happiest person in earth..

posted on 17 Jul 2014, 05:34 14

3. Trolloftheyear (banned) (Posts: 66; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


Samsung > Apple.

posted on 17 Jul 2014, 05:43 3

5. JakeLee (banned) (Posts: 1021; Member since: 02 Nov 2013)


Member since yesterday? Recently hired by Sammy to assassinate me?

posted on 17 Jul 2014, 05:45 6

7. Ashoaib (Posts: 2115; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)


but what he is saying is true i.e. samsung>apple

posted on 17 Jul 2014, 05:55 10

9. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


Inside apple iPhone's, all parts are made by Samsung.

Apples the begger, always coming back to buy the very best, finest parts by Samsung.

posted on 17 Jul 2014, 06:22 2

12. Sreddy (Posts: 61; Member since: 14 Sep 2013)


funny how samsung can make those parts and not put it into good use lol.. dont flatter yourself, most company has done some good some time the other.

posted on 17 Jul 2014, 07:01 6

13. The-Sailor-Man (limited) (Posts: 885; Member since: 25 Mar 2014)


Samsung make the best phones now. If they don't use 64-bit so far, is because they are not like Apple to need usless 'magic'(1GB)
Samsung have enough real tech to offer, instead.

posted on 17 Jul 2014, 07:55 3

16. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


Lmfao

1gb Ram and 64bit

Wtf

Gtfo Apple

Brainwashing innocent users

posted on 17 Jul 2014, 14:07 1

32. pulkit1 (Posts: 283; Member since: 03 Jul 2014)


Each os works differently and hence require different resources .
grow up and stop chasing specs and instead go for the experience .
p. s. i dont support apple pricing though .

posted on 18 Jul 2014, 07:34 1

46. nithyakr (Posts: 72; Member since: 20 Jun 2014)


You think that 64 bit chips are just to handle More than 3 GB RAM? Really?? jeez...

64 bit architecture means that CPU is able to grab chunks of size 64 bits at once which then can be processed.

and as a result of this the CPU is able to address more physical memory locations. That's why 64 bit can address more than 3 GB of RAM.

It's people like you who has been brainwashed to think that "64 bit CPU is for more than 3 GB RAM".

Apple has been in the Computer industry more than you and myself. So please don't think that you know better than Apple engineers.

posted on 17 Jul 2014, 08:36

21. yep_its_ed (unregistered)


"very best, finest parts by Samsung" Lol I don't know if you know this, but Apple designs every part of the iPhone. Samsung just gets the schematics and makes whatever Apple wants. Samsung is just working for Apple here, they don't do anything to contribute to the iPhone other than listen to Apple's orders.

posted on 17 Jul 2014, 18:24 1

39. The-Sailor-Man (limited) (Posts: 885; Member since: 25 Mar 2014)


iBS
Apple designs only rectangles, cheap aluminium cans, and colours.
All the displays, chips, memory, .......is Samsung's developed tech.
Even the "retina"BS displays. And last iphone5s is made by Samsung on the Exinos process

posted on 17 Jul 2014, 14:05

31. pulkit1 (Posts: 283; Member since: 03 Jul 2014)


Not bashing samsung but its never about the parts its about the machine ( how the parts come together ).

posted on 18 Jul 2014, 07:27

45. nithyakr (Posts: 72; Member since: 20 Jun 2014)


Samsung makes good Chips. Agreed.

But their phones is a very different story. Cheap plastic look, Not even trying to create a phone with a premium feel. They just wanna create a phone that is easy to manufacture (hence plastic) and create a butt load of phones that looks just like the flagship.

Apple on the other Hand, tries to create the very best premium feeling phone (just like the HTC. kudos to HTC for One series) on the market.

And iOS vs Android is just personal preference.

posted on 17 Jul 2014, 05:56

10. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


Everyone assinates you on PhoneArena

Lmao

posted on 17 Jul 2014, 06:03 1

11. Ashoaib (Posts: 2115; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)


everyone? not really, their are samsung's haters and apple's fans as well... why should not be? when samsung keep disappointing ppl with their design and apple is keeping many happy with their design

posted on 17 Jul 2014, 07:31 4

15. Trolloftheyear (banned) (Posts: 66; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


Member since November 2013? Long ago hired by Apple to assassinate Android?

posted on 17 Jul 2014, 08:11 1

18. Ashoaib (Posts: 2115; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)


yeah... he trolls about samsung alot... but he started recently, I havent seen him commenting much before

posted on 17 Jul 2014, 09:08 3

22. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8300; Member since: 14 May 2012)


That's because PA published an article that shut him up completely on his BS reports about Android.

posted on 17 Jul 2014, 09:27

24. JakeLee (banned) (Posts: 1021; Member since: 02 Nov 2013)


Oh really?
EVERYTHING what's happening and will happen very soon is proving that I was right back then.

What I predicted :
Tough year for Android due to saturated market : Even "Android's champion" GS5 didn't manage to surpass 5s that was 8 months old back then in May. I'm sure that it was the same for June and will be the same for July.
Android's difficulty in transition to 64bit : Unlike many praised, GS5 came with a 32bit SoC - just as I predicted. Android WAS and IS FAR from 64bit ready.
I also predicted the Nexus6 to be the first 64bit Android phone. And as it seems, I was right all the way along.
Android won't benefit much from 64bit : Looking at the current PDK, I will be right here, too. 64bit optimization heavily lacks.

Where was I wrong?

posted on 17 Jul 2014, 11:40 5

29. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 913; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


Android is far from 64bit ready? Android L is already 64bit if the SOC supports it.

posted on 17 Jul 2014, 14:11

33. pulkit1 (Posts: 283; Member since: 03 Jul 2014)


only apps that use sdk . but ndk apps will have to be rewritten ( includes games and resource intensive apps). The questions will most developer both 32bit and 64bit or only built 32bit apps. But then again we might see android completely shift to 64bit because of cheap 64bit soc then again it will be a long process.

posted on 17 Jul 2014, 15:28

34. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 913; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


I do know devs will need to switch to 64bit programming in ndk, but existing games can't be recompiled in 64bit easily?

posted on 17 Jul 2014, 19:04 5

41. JakeLee (banned) (Posts: 1021; Member since: 02 Nov 2013)


It's not as simple as Google wants you to believe.
I've been telling this since almost one full year : Only apps that are wilritten 100% in Java run in 64bit and *might* benefit from this. There are caveats :
1. No sane person writes computationally demanding routines in Java. Simple apps like hello worlds don't need more performance in first place.
2. If you want to write a video editor for example, you port third party libs like FFMpeg. And its 32bit version is much faster than 64bit due to the FAR more mature optimizations in 32bit. As an app developer, you are then forced to build the whole app against 32bit.
3. Android apps heavily rely on third party libs compared to iOS. And while the whole framework on iOS came 64bit optimized from day 1, most of Android's components are third party ones, hardly optimized for 64bit.

And now, Google is lying with their "64bit ready" claim.
Sure, they'll demonstrate how much performance gain the transition brings with a few selected applications, but there won't be much in real use.

I don't know which NDK version Google will specify as a prequesit for 64bit apps. It's 6.0 for iOS, and it might be KitKat for Android, or even L (which is more likely IMO)

Would you, as an app developer, take the risk and make your products require such a late version of Android for that meaningless, possibly even crippling 64bit experience?

Absolutely not.

Bogus 64bit indeed.

Just look at the apps in the PlayStore, which Android version they require. Most of them still target 4+ years old Gingerbread.

What do you think how long it will take until a meaningful number of 64bit apps are available, requiring KitKat or L?

Three years at least, five years to be realistic.

What about iOS? 64bit support is a no brainer with the 95+% share of iOS6+.

Fragmentation is a SERIOUS problem on Android.

posted on 17 Jul 2014, 21:42

42. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


+1

From me

posted on 18 Jul 2014, 03:25

43. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 913; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


+1 from me as well, very informative

posted on 17 Jul 2014, 18:32

40. The-Sailor-Man (limited) (Posts: 885; Member since: 25 Mar 2014)


GS5 is not the only high end of Samsung. More and more ppl buy Note too(Note3) Soon Note an S will be 50% -50%
S4 actually beat iPhone 5S alone. Check it out (if the isuckers didn't split S4 on two)

posted on 18 Jul 2014, 10:22

47. pulkit1 (Posts: 283; Member since: 03 Jul 2014)


why do you hate iPhone users so much . You don't like them or the choice they made ?
But the statistics you are proving was for a quarter not actually since launch , don't believe me do a google search .

posted on 18 Jul 2014, 03:37

44. xfire99 (Posts: 514; Member since: 14 Mar 2012)


Android is based on Linux kernel and 64 bit was already baked in for veryyyyy long time. There has no need for 64 bit, until Apple caught everyone by surprise to release A7 64 bit.
So, u have it wrong there.

posted on 18 Jul 2014, 10:30

50. pulkit1 (Posts: 283; Member since: 03 Jul 2014)


Then again you don't know the difference between apps made by sdk or ndk. If you would have known you would understand that ndk apps will require code modification . Most games and resource intensive apps are built using NDK.

posted on 17 Jul 2014, 08:33

20. tedkord (Posts: 4810; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Nah, he does it for love, not money.

posted on 17 Jul 2014, 08:31 3

19. tedkord (Posts: 4810; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


You're less than a speck of dust on a pimple on Samsung's rump. Not only did they not hire anyone to "assassinate" you, they're in no way even aware of your existence.

posted on 17 Jul 2014, 09:26 3

23. VZWuser76 (Posts: 1449; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)


Yup, you're that important. MLK, JFK, and JakeLee. smh

posted on 17 Jul 2014, 07:16 6

14. MarkArigayo (Posts: 240; Member since: 18 Dec 2013)


Without Samsung, Apple is NOTHING. Everybody knows that.

posted on 18 Jul 2014, 10:26

49. pulkit1 (Posts: 283; Member since: 03 Jul 2014)


Its a symbiotic relationship .

posted on 17 Jul 2014, 10:21 1

25. HugoBarraCyanogenmod (Posts: 180; Member since: 06 Jul 2014)


They just can't compete

posted on 17 Jul 2014, 10:46 1

26. Loubielou (Posts: 219; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


Apple get the Praise for this,but Samsung just get used,Why?can"t Samsung make Apple Struggle an Produce better Products for there own Smartphones,Apple just thing that they can use Samsung for Anything and they are Frightened of Saying "No" to them

posted on 17 Jul 2014, 11:19

27. Ninetysix (Posts: 1615; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)


When was the last time you praised TSMC for Qualcomm's SoCs?

posted on 18 Jul 2014, 10:24

48. pulkit1 (Posts: 283; Member since: 03 Jul 2014)


its like a supermarket , you can afford to pissoff your customers . A shop or a company is nothing without its customer . apple is the largest customer to samsung semiconductor devision .

posted on 17 Jul 2014, 11:40

28. prakashdeep8 (Posts: 34; Member since: 16 Jun 2014)


will see another revenge

posted on 17 Jul 2014, 13:14 2

30. iMemo (Posts: 102; Member since: 22 Feb 2014)


So many dumb fanboys here. "Without Samsung, Apple is nothing". *facepalm* Like seriously... How are you even allowed to post such a non-logical comment!

posted on 19 Jul 2014, 21:26

51. BlankSpaceNai (Posts: 109; Member since: 23 Apr 2014)


Its funny how much hate and anger gets thrown into this 'fight' between the two companies. Either your with Apple or your with Samsung, or your someone who says they have both. A few common things I see is that people continue to hate on android for the OS in general, the problems it has and etc. The hate I see with Samsung is that they make 'ugly' phones and for TW. The hate for apple is for their devices not being as 'good' as the others. Its amazing how much the same arguement comes up again and again.

I wasnt aware that the look of the phone became more important than the phone itself. I wasnt aware that an OS must be absolutely perfect in all views when its released. I wasnt aware that Metal defined how good a phone is, and so on.

Seriously, pick with what your happy with. Its amazing how the look of a phone has made people so insanely picky. That is must LOOK a certain way for the phone to be good, not with its specs, hardware, software, etc. No..its the LOOK that makes all the difference. Apple uses a 64, while androids running with 32. Is that going to absolutely CHANGE how you use the device? Or the public? NO, your still gonna be playing your kairosoft or temple run, or etc. Your still gonna be listening to your music, watch your movies, etc. It should not matter at all. All that matters is that it performs to your usage. If it can take your usage and make you happy, isnt that whats important?

I find it funny that people are so obsessed with such trivial, diva-ish, and glamor. Its like we're buying jewelery. Yet we all complain when devices dont do something that the others do. Everyone needs to complain about something, but at this point, we're just digging for anything to fight with. How about we wait and see what happens, and if you dont like it, dont buy it, but convincing others not to buy something just because it doesnt fit you is why we have problems in other genres of entertainment (Look at gaming as a pure example)

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