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Samsung pushes Tizen to developers at its conference

0. phoneArena 30 Oct 2013, 13:14 posted on

Samsung started its first developers conference this week in San Francisco and while talk of Android filled the air, Samsung also made sure that Tizen had a presence too; most of the talk about Tizen took place between scheduled talks, amongst developers. The main focus of the conference was to push developers to make Android apps unique to Samsung models...

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posted on 30 Oct 2013, 13:32 2

1. TechBizJP08 (Posts: 494; Member since: 25 Mar 2013)


I don't understand this Tizen. If it were developed by Intel. Why is it using arm as chips? should be Intel chips..

posted on 30 Oct 2013, 13:40

3. Reality_Check (Posts: 248; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)


Battery? Low power requirement? Efficiency? Intel is also going to manufacture ARM based chips, so maybe that? Not sure though... There are a number of reasons / possibilities.

posted on 30 Oct 2013, 15:37 1

9. Finalflash (Posts: 1474; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)


It isn't that, they want the platform to counter Google's Android because that largely runs on ARM chips. Once Tizen starts ramping, they'll put intel chips behind it which the OS will largely be optimized for. So it's a long term solution. Also because it is expected that Apple will move to the its own processors for all their line up leaving intel to find someone to use their chips other than MS, who honestly are too busy digging a hole somewhere.

If KitKat turns out to be good for lower end like Google wants, it might kill Tizen before it even gets off the ground. But without Tizen, Google might never have driven this hard for the mid to low optimization, so can't say there wasn't some good that came out of it.

I think though, that Tizen will fail, largely because it has two hardware powers behind it, not software. They both have some ability for software, but they should focus on hardware because they have decades of advantage there. Just like Google is only focusing on software and seems to be doing well. MS tried both and is feeling the hurt far more than they expected. Apple is the only one who has successfully run both sides but that is because they have had a very VERY slow software upgrade cycle. They make a good OS and sit on it for a decade making the hardware behind it then. Then they switch focus to software again after a while instead of just juggling both like MS, Samsung and Intel are prone to do. In other words, they have the brand stability and discipline that in necessary to juggle both where as the others do not.

posted on 30 Oct 2013, 13:39 1

2. Nunazty (Posts: 7; Member since: 16 Jul 2012)


Good question

posted on 30 Oct 2013, 21:19

20. Long1 (banned) (Posts: 399; Member since: 18 May 2013)


I'll give you better question based on the article:
"Samsung is developing Tizen as an OS it can focus on if Google starts punishing Samsung for dominating the Android platform. "

Like HOW, Google can "starts punishing Samsung for dominating the Android platform"??? Or this is just a regular iBS made by PHoneArena? Stupidest one. LOL

posted on 30 Oct 2013, 23:43

27. Navaid (Posts: 46; Member since: 05 Sep 2013)


Google can do a lot like Limiting functionality or Buying out HTC, They've just started it by backing LG too much.

posted on 30 Oct 2013, 13:57

4. kozza3 (Posts: 574; Member since: 17 Oct 2012)


Galaxy S5 (T???) will run Tizen!!!!!

posted on 30 Oct 2013, 21:24 2

21. Long1 (banned) (Posts: 399; Member since: 18 May 2013)


No.
S5 will be Android. Tizen devices will be different line products.

posted on 30 Oct 2013, 21:59

24. kozza3 (Posts: 574; Member since: 17 Oct 2012)


source?

posted on 31 Oct 2013, 10:30

29. Zeeya (Posts: 163; Member since: 17 Mar 2013)


where is your f*ing source?

posted on 31 Oct 2013, 10:31

30. Zeeya (Posts: 163; Member since: 17 Mar 2013)


sry for the F*

was a bad week

posted on 30 Oct 2013, 22:55

25. bigstrudel (Posts: 518; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)


Wishful thinking. Tizen wont be ready in a year; but it will be ready in a couple years. And Samsung will absolutely shove it down your throat once its ready.

posted on 30 Oct 2013, 23:06 2

26. ijklmnop (Posts: 18; Member since: 10 Oct 2013)


S5 will run android with cheap build quality.
Tizen will have specs like s5 and design 3.0

posted on 30 Oct 2013, 14:05 7

5. Sire3008 (Posts: 86; Member since: 26 Sep 2013)


Samsung can achieve any damn thing if they focus well on it. Sammy made Android popular and vice versa. Tizen can be a reality someday! Its good for us consumers. Really wish windows could be more haste with the development of windowsphone... Not enjoying my Lumia 920 like I should!!

posted on 30 Oct 2013, 14:06 1

6. tsspro (Posts: 17; Member since: 18 Jan 2010)


I hope tizen fail

posted on 30 Oct 2013, 15:24 10

8. SlimSoulja86 (Posts: 642; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)


Why? Will u b successful if it fails?

posted on 30 Oct 2013, 15:58 6

10. _Bone_ (Posts: 2104; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)


She just wants to be the first Tizen hater.

posted on 30 Oct 2013, 19:49 1

18. SonyFindOneDroidple (Posts: 441; Member since: 11 May 2013)


He was fired by Samsung

posted on 30 Oct 2013, 19:10 2

16. Nunazty (Posts: 7; Member since: 16 Jul 2012)


You must be perfectly adequate at funerals (but not very fun at parties, I’m afraid).

posted on 30 Oct 2013, 14:57 1

7. duder52 (Posts: 27; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)


Zero need for Tizen. I can't see any development or interest for this. There are plenty of other alternatives like windows mobile, blackberry (although future is a question mark), ubuntu touch, iOS, and firefox os. Intel has a history of trying to monopolize things (see it's history with Dell) so I want no part of what they are doing. Samsung already has a history of trying and failing with it's own BADA os, so what makes them think this is worthwhile?

posted on 30 Oct 2013, 16:03

11. _Bone_ (Posts: 2104; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)


So what exactly developers are doing at the Samsung developer conference?

posted on 30 Oct 2013, 16:08

12. Miracles (Posts: 464; Member since: 31 Aug 2013)


Obviously after the money. They probably give no sht about what happens to it.

posted on 30 Oct 2013, 19:47

17. SonyFindOneDroidple (Posts: 441; Member since: 11 May 2013)


Do you know someone who works for others who doesnt want any money in return!! DUMB

posted on 30 Oct 2013, 21:10 1

19. Miracles (Posts: 464; Member since: 31 Aug 2013)


What? That made absolutely no sense.

posted on 30 Oct 2013, 21:30

22. Long1 (banned) (Posts: 399; Member since: 18 May 2013)


"Zero need for Tizen" (???)

Not sure. For all I know Tizen planned be platform connecting all kind of devices in one OS. And I wish them luck.

posted on 30 Oct 2013, 17:35

13. badero (Posts: 8; Member since: 15 Mar 2013)


Tizen is bada´s second part. And the second part of the movies are never good.
In short, few applications, lousy support from Samsung.
ChatOn don´t work in Samsung wave. This app was developed to replace whatsapp in bada.
This is all said.

posted on 30 Oct 2013, 21:32

23. Long1 (banned) (Posts: 399; Member since: 18 May 2013)


Nothing to do with Bada, iboy. LOL
I repeat: For all I know Tizen planned be platform connecting all kind of devices in one OS.

posted on 30 Oct 2013, 18:07

14. rusticguy (Posts: 2821; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


Hmm so if Samsung succeeds what difference will it make? NSA will be replaced by KSA whereever tizen sells and NSA will be paying KSA to get same data that it gets now from elsewhere ... so more competition for selling user data ...

posted on 30 Oct 2013, 18:10

15. sprockkets (Posts: 1092; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)


"The main focus of the conference was to push developers to make Android apps unique to Samsung models."

Which is what Google doesn't want due to poor user experience.

"his way, the transition to Tizen from Android will be a smooth one. Samsung is developing Tizen as an OS it can focus on if Google starts punishing Samsung for dominating the Android platform. "

Google doesn't care if they are successful. What really is happening, is that Samsung already is making their own ecosystem, where you can make a samsung account and get samsung apps on their Android phones. They want to show Android the door and control everything like apple does. They want to be free of Android

Problem is, they suck at it already.

posted on 31 Oct 2013, 09:58

28. tasior (Posts: 178; Member since: 04 Nov 2012)


So their focus is to create their own Samsung world. They want to drag their clients into buying everything with their brand. We saw several failures of this strategy eg. Apple with Macintosh in early 90s, Sony in late 90s (Memory Stick instead of SD, their own plugs, their own mp3 - atrac, etc.) and only one success. The only success in this strategy had Apple with their iStuff and it was only because of Jobs's revolutionary ideas and his unique ability to sell them to the masses (please don't start the topic whether those where his ideas - that's not the point of what I'm trying to say). I don't think samsung has people like Jobs, therefore I think, the further they go with separating their devices from the rest of the world, the worse their sellings will be.

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