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Samsung promises "64-bit functionality" in next smartphones, because it can't let Apple have anything "special"

0. phoneArena 12 Sep 2013, 00:58 posted on

That's right folks, we're back in the day care play area and Samsung is jealous of Apple's new 64-bit toy. Samsung apparently doesn't care much that 64-bit processing won't really help Apple all that much in the near future, nor that 64-bit support will be completely useless on an Android device (unless Android 4.4 KitKat is bringing 64-bit support)...

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posted on 12 Sep 2013, 07:43

88. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)

"When phones are ready for 64 bit architecture..."

How to understand that smartphones are ready for 64-bit ?

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 09:13

105. Googler (Posts: 813; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)

For starters, when RAM has reached a point to warrant it. Right now it's not needed, and probably won't for a few more years.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 10:53

113. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)

And when in your opinion as you say RAM will reached a point to warrant it?

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 07:52 1

90. Ninetysix (Posts: 2387; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)

Useless without Google optimizing the code/apis for 64bit. It's already in iOS7 and more on the way. Good luck with your 64bit smartphones with no optimization for it.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 08:11

93. thedarkside (Posts: 652; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)

does anyone know that Samsung is the maker of the A7 chip in the new iphones? if Samsung would release the 64bit chip in the phones, it woluld make everything better for the phones that are in actual HD. I don't see how it will fit on a phone that doesn't even have 720p.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 08:29

95. Ninetysix (Posts: 2387; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)

Samsung also used chips by Qualcomm on most of their phones. What's your point?

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 18:11

140. TheM16 (Posts: 80; Member since: 14 Aug 2013)

Wrong again dude...
The Taiwanese company "TSMC" is making the A7 chip not your "Samsung" anymore.
And it will make the A8,A9 and A9X...
Wake up Samsung fans!

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 08:34

96. Altair (Posts: 367; Member since: 02 Feb 2012)

Poor Samsung has to once again copy its superiors. Thats what it has been doing all day long since 2007.

Shamesung the grand thief after Google.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 10:21

109. xtian1103 (Posts: 363; Member since: 11 Feb 2012)

the real question is "what took samsung so long to follow apple?" it has been a day since the announcement. c'mon samsung fire your spies!

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 10:33

110. RomeoJDR (Posts: 244; Member since: 09 Dec 2011)

What a rare failure by Samsung's marketing department. The author is right about there being no advantage of 64-bit running on a system with well less than the 32-bit's 4GB virtual memory cap. Plus I'm wondering the impact this will have on the iPhone usable storage since this will require more ROM space dedicated to the OS. It may be a huge issue in the 16GB version. Why Samsung is only adding fuel to the fire instead of exposing the 64-bit as simply useless hot air is beyond me? Apple touting the 64-bit in a phone as being ahead of its time is correct, unfortunately that means it offers no utility when the rest of the phone lags behind.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 11:27

117. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)

The note 3 has 3gb ram so don't be surprised if the note 4 next year comes with a 4gb ram and then the 64bit CPU makes sense. Arm said a while back that they have the 64bit architecture and phones in 2014 will use it so this is no surprise.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 14:19

130. RomeoJDR (Posts: 244; Member since: 09 Dec 2011)

4GB is the limit, so unless it has dedicated graphics memory as well it will still be a waste of space.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 14:52

133. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)

I'll be honest really dont know too much about 32/64bits but read somewhere that to get any real use out of 64bit you need 4gb ram or more and something about 4gb ram being the limit for 32bit. Could be wrong though as I said don't know much.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 11:00

114. Quezdagreat (Posts: 428; Member since: 05 Apr 2012)

Samsung does it again with their me too approach. this is my second time saying this bt the galaxy s5 will have a fingerprint scanner. "if apple has it why shouldn't we have it" smh

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 11:24

115. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)

And the fanboys including this writer of course jump to the copying bandwagon. What they obviously missed while back was arm already have a 64bit architecture and said it will be on phones in 2014 so the fact Samsung is saying they will have a phone with a 64bit CPU isn't news because as arm who has a very close relationship with Samsung pretty much said this was going to happen but I let uninformed people believe what makes you happy.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 12:12

122. Darkerm (Posts: 308; Member since: 31 Jan 2012)

Am I the only one who dosn't care about what Apple or Samsung do but only care about 64 Bit so we can run Android in our PC?

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 12:17

123. Ninetysix (Posts: 2387; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)


posted on 12 Sep 2013, 12:48 1

124. 0kax0el0 (Posts: 175; Member since: 15 Nov 2012)

Have anybody read the source article? It doesn't say it was announced, it was commented in an executives meeting. Shin was asked by the chiefs about 64bit processors in their phones.

“Not in the shortest time. But yes, our next smartphones will have 64-bit processing functionality,”

That sounds like "it's not our focus, but yes, we can do it too".

Still, the most importan aspect about processors is the number of instructions per second ther're capable of. 64bits processors aside from an easier access to bigger ram memory, gives you more precision on bit operations. So, is anyone using an iPhone o Galaxy as a database server or molecule simulation?

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 17:56 1

139. ilani (Posts: 90; Member since: 23 Dec 2011)

its not about copying! its about buzz words! Apple has an extra buzz word on their product now! no one really cares what it is! just that 64 is bigger than 32! this could mean selling more products, of course samsung is gonna do it too!

posted on 13 Sep 2013, 16:48

142. sarge77 (Posts: 202; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)

Samsung didnt copy anything they made the chip apple so its goin to happen its a shame that apple didnt take advantage of the 64bit using beyond 4g of ram is awesome the only problem is limited space will come into play soon are we going to walk around with a portable drive as well.

posted on 25 Oct 2013, 13:11

143. cj100570 (Posts: 204; Member since: 12 May 2009)

It's truly sad when supposed journalists allow their bias to write stories. Just a quick FYI.... Samsung discussed using 64-bit processors in their devices as early as last year. As ARM is the architect of the chips that Samsung, Apple, etc. use they had to wait on arm to institute it in its chips. And lets not forget that Samsung produces the A7 chip in the iPhone. But who needs facts when you have a click bait headline....

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