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Samsung promises "64-bit functionality" in next smartphones, because it can't let Apple have anything "special"

0. phoneArena 12 Sep 2013, 00:58 posted on

That's right folks, we're back in the day care play area and Samsung is jealous of Apple's new 64-bit toy. Samsung apparently doesn't care much that 64-bit processing won't really help Apple all that much in the near future, nor that 64-bit support will be completely useless on an Android device (unless Android 4.4 KitKat is bringing 64-bit support)...

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posted on 12 Sep 2013, 14:49

132. jaxson983 (Posts: 43; Member since: 11 Aug 2013)

that's my point. we don't know what will happen next but "next" wont be this phone. It doesn't have the ram. I guess really its an indication that they will stop supporting the 5c and lower in coming years. The 5s will do an eh job with 64bit apps and then future models will be designed around it. Or they will have a huge gap between the top and bottom and more and more apps that work for some phones but not others.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 14:59

134. E.N. (Posts: 2610; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)

And so why couldn't those devices get 4gig of RAM this year? Samsung will be putting the 64-bit processor in "future devices" yet somehow I doubt the Galaxy S5 and very possibly the Note 4 will be getting 4gigs of ram.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 15:01

135. E.N. (Posts: 2610; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)

Why would they announce that they will support it if there's a good possibility that Kit-Kat will not support it?

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 22:09

141. Trololol (Posts: 33; Member since: 12 Sep 2013)

but who knows? maybe 4gigs ram on iphone............9s

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 01:02 18

2. D.Aceveda (Posts: 396; Member since: 30 Jun 2012)

64 bit is pointless on a mobile device. Apple needs 64bit since they still haven't got past the 1gb limit LOL

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 09:20

106. ghaniosman (Posts: 78; Member since: 06 Jun 2013)

forget apple!! now samsung (the new cool) is doing it, thats matters!!!
secondly, PA even if google hasn't announced yet but samsung did so not to worry since samsung is already dominating google's android OS and what samsung demands google have to do it.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 10:44 3

111. Commentator (Posts: 3721; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)

Ageed. Even IF Apple were able to cram 4+ GB into the iPhone 5S, we'd be watching all this amazing performance... on a tiny screen.

I could see this being much more applicable on an iPad, but knowing Apple they won't be putting more than 4 GB into the iPad until 2018.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 01:04 5

3. TGreg104 (Posts: 38; Member since: 14 Jun 2011)

I know you meant this to be playful and it is but honestly its bound to happen, its just the next logical step as far as SoC's go since we're nearing the 4gb mark. I honestly think Apple made the A7 a 64-bit because they saw that android devices are coming to the point where 64-bit makes sense and just wanted to be the first to do it. I'm sure the iPhone 6 will have 4gbs of ram, and I'm sure the next android flag ships will be 64-bit/+4gb of ram. Its just how it goes. Good for apple i guess

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 01:44

23. TechBizJP08 (Posts: 495; Member since: 25 Mar 2013)

4GB rams still not coming next year IMO. at least after 2 years.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 02:04 3

28. a_merryman (Posts: 749; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)

I'm hoping the 64-bit is part of Apple's plans to make a more computer like tablet with the iPad, by offering more functionality and thus increasing its ram and storage options to help.

Likewise, I hope google does it because I think Android on a hybrid tablet might be pretty nice.

Although that Asus T100 looks like a pretty good deal, full-blown windows 8.1, decent specs all for only $349 (Which includes the keyboard dock, and the 64GB is only $399)

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 02:32 4

37. Reality_Check (Posts: 277; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)

I think the Ubuntu Edge had 4GB RAM? Though it didn't reach its goal. A chinese company is also going to sell an Android smartphone with 4GB RAM (Hasee I think) So I think 2014 will be a year of 3/4GB RAM's.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 03:13 2

48. LiquidGalaxy (Posts: 332; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)

Does the iPhone really need anymore RAM though? I'm yet to think it does. It may only have 1gb but it still runs games and the overall OS a lot smoother and quicker than any flagship Android or Windows phone i've used. Optimisation really is key, and Apple have that in the bag..

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 03:47 3

55. tedkord (Posts: 13235; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

Apple aren't going to offer anything that cuts into their profit margins. If an extra GB of ram costs them $80, expect to pay an extra $200.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 03:47

56. tedkord (Posts: 13235; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

Apple aren't going to offer anything that cuts into their profit margins. If an extra GB of ram costs them $80, expect to pay an extra $200.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 03:50 4

57. tedkord (Posts: 13235; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

Simplicity also helps. Never having to dynamically resize content for different screens for example. The less something does, the less resources it need and the easier it is to make it s smooth.

That said, I'm running AOSP android 4.3 right now and it is every bit as smooth and fluid as iOS.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 08:55 1

102. LiquidGalaxy (Posts: 332; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)

Awesome. On which device?

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 13:10

127. scumbledEGG (unregistered)

+1tgreg104, its even, its all about choice...

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 13:34

129. Dr.Tom (Posts: 46; Member since: 11 May 2013)

Only $200 extra? Apple generally mark up 500 percent. So an $80 part adds $400 to the bottom line. Follow this rule and the extra 4Gb ram adds about $40, so that adds $200 to the bottom line! If the new iPhone 5S costs about $900-1000 (off contract price), a 5-6Gb iPhone with no other upgrades will cost about $1100-1200 to buy! Better save cause even for me, thats stupid money to give for a phone!

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 01:05 8

4. pyradark (Posts: 881; Member since: 10 Jun 2012)

even google play is not capable of bringing 1080p apps!! while iOS does

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 06:29 5

72. tedkord (Posts: 13235; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

Awesome! 1080p apps on a 640p screen! That 1080p will do as much good on a 640p screen as a 64bit processor/OS on a 2gb ram machine.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 07:27 3

84. iampayne (Posts: 322; Member since: 12 Aug 2013)

Yeah completely disregard the iPad right, blind hate just makes you sound dumb

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 07:49 2

89. joey_sfb (Posts: 6453; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)

tedkord just stated a technical fact. deal with it.

however if you think Apple new iPhone is great value you could buy it and be happy. I don't think it good enough for me.

Hope iPhone 6 would be better.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 08:43

97. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)

Can you prove that with plausible links?

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 01:05 2

5. clevername (Posts: 1436; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)

At the risk of sounding like a troll or mindless fan boy, there is no way people can say Samsung isn't copying here. They could've announced it next month, in a few months when rumors pick up for the S5, or for any reason. But the day after apples announcement... This just screams "me too"

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 01:13 24

13. suneeboy (Posts: 201; Member since: 02 Oct 2012)

It's not copying. Its the natural progression of technology. So is everyone copying the original 1080p phone? Is any phone copying the original phone that provided push e-mail? What about quad core processors? What about touch screens? When new technology becomes available and possible, it expands. Its not copying. Get past that infantile school yard way of thinking. We all do things that we've seen others do. Apple is copying HTC by using larger pixels. Apple is copying Nokia by using a plastic body and using various colors. Apple is copying the Motorola Atrix with the fingerprint scanner. Sound stupid right? Because it is. There is no copying going on. It's the natural evolution of technology.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 01:29 6

19. Daftama (Posts: 619; Member since: 03 Nov 2012)

You wanna talk about copy io7 is Complete copy of gingerbread lol... I could careless more copies the more my Android gets better so please copy the hell out of each other

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 01:34 3

20. antelmann22 (Posts: 3; Member since: 25 Mar 2013)

If I'm not mistaken, the new A7 chip is based off of ARMv8 architecture which is 64-bit. That's the next step in mobile computing on the ARM side of things. THIS INSTRUCTION SET WAS LICENSED TO APPLE, and Apple along with their acquired chip designers created the A7. It is not a me too. It would have happened whether Apple announced it or not.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 01:58

26. illusionmist (Posts: 157; Member since: 29 Jan 2013)

Tell that to those people that were just happily bashing Apple about this 64-bit thing.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 02:01 7

27. E.N. (Posts: 2610; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)

Why announce this 1 day after Apple's event? 64-bit processors supposedly have no benefit to mobile devices today whatsoever and Google's OS doesn't won't even allow 64-bit apps to work. So then what exactly is the functional purpose of adding this feature? There is none. Samsung is copying just for copying-sake so STFU with your preachy BS.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 02:11 2

31. Trex95 (Posts: 1068; Member since: 03 Mar 2013)

And Android copied Cydia.

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