Samsung promises "64-bit functionality" in next smartphones, because it can't let Apple have anything "special"
0. phoneArena 12 Sep 2013, 00:58 posted on
That's right folks, we're back in the day care play area and Samsung is jealous of Apple's new 64-bit toy. Samsung apparently doesn't care much that 64-bit processing won't really help Apple all that much in the near future, nor that 64-bit support will be completely useless on an Android device (unless Android 4.4 KitKat is bringing 64-bit support)...
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1. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
The sad thing is Apple never innovate, and therefore Samsung never copies ... NOT.
29. Trex95 (Posts: 924; Member since: 03 Mar 2013)
Samsung never copy! Samsung has 2 dept in mobile section RB and copy paste Lol.
43. BillyG (Posts: 305; Member since: 24 Sep 2012)
and i bet they have lots of photocopy machine in there...
30. chrisgringo (Posts: 5; Member since: 13 Aug 2013)
I don't think Samsung is jealous of Apple but I do think a certain fanboy writer is butthurt, intimidated, sour and has Sammy iRage! =D
41. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
chrisgringo: the writer was trying to be funny, and I dovetailed with sarcasm -- okay, you can't connect the ellipses; we understand.
I'll be serious for a moment, both literally and figuratively speaking, so please check out link:http://www.incipio.com/cases/i
It's a watchband for the iPod Nano 6. Just a few days ago, Samsung released the "Gear" -- if you ask me, that Gear is an IMPROVEMENT on the Apple product. People were using the iPod Nano as a smartwatch, but Apple **never** innovates. To a lot people, the iPod Nano was an attempt at a smartwatch. Enough said.
94. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
I think you should first learn the meaning of a smart watch and why an MP3 player isn't one
33. Larry_ThaGr81 (Posts: 442; Member since: 26 May 2011)
I don't see how Apple consumers will benefit from 64 bit processing anytime soon. What's the point of introducing it as though it will have an immediate impact on Apple consumers.
42. joey_sfb (Posts: 5819; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
it's a software future proofing effort by Apple. they don't have much feature to focus their marketing therefore Apple talk a lot on 64 bit much like what Microsoft did during the Windows 7 launch. I have upgrade my desktop gaming pc from 32bit to 64bit Windows 7 with zero percent speed improvement.
Still necessary if I need the full benefit of my 16Gb ram. No higher fps but still give me great satisfaction of my achievement. Especially after overcoming driver problem and game crushes due to 64 bits.
62. parvsingh05 (Posts: 98; Member since: 11 Jan 2012)
There are so many features that Samsung has put on there fone but stil not getting utilised completely. If apple does it , usay what's da point putting it in a phone right now, future is here
34. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
I actually have to give props to Samsung for not staying silent.
Also, you'd be a fool to think Samsung wasn't already working on 64 bit processors with the intent to have them ready within another generation or so, and Android will likely include such optimization anyway with KitKat. Android could be the key to breaking the Apple-Microsoft mainline computing duopoly.
59. Zeus.k (unregistered)
Well it makes perfect sense to. Include 64 bit support since Samsung is the only major manufacturer to have 3GB ram and they might break the 4GB RAM barrier with note4. Apple hasn't even put 2GB of ram in anything. Apple is first to include something doesn't mean that others weren't working on it.
61. yowanvista (Posts: 340; Member since: 20 Sep 2011)
No it doesn't make sense, Cortex-A15 SoCs can already address up to 1TB of RAM with LPAE enabled.
70. tedkord (Posts: 11910; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
I'm not sure about ARMs implementation, but when I tried enabling address extension on my old Windows/Intel 32bit box with 4gb about 6 years ago, it not only gave no improvement, it actually got really unstable. To the point that I disabled it and later picked up Vista Ultimate 64bit and installed it on another partition and dual booted. The XP partition used 3gb, the Vista used 4gb.
But even with the extra gig of ram, 64bit yielded no discernable or benchmark improvements. Whether I ran the 32 bit versions in XP, or alongside the 64bit versions in Vista, benefits were negligible.
86. joey_sfb (Posts: 5819; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
actually 64bit is slightly slower compare to Windows xp 32 bit for a very long time but now nobody bother with Windows 32bit anymore especially newer build system.
128. Dr.Tom (Posts: 46; Member since: 11 May 2013)
Don't forget that we are now at 3Gb level, when at the start of 2013, 1 Gb was the norm. By the time the new SamyS5 comes out, it will probably have 4Gbs ram, which means that it can take advantage of a 64 bit cpu. If not the Note 4 will have more than 4Gbs, and its the new gold standard for phones! Until the Apple 7 arrives, which will then be forced to get atleast 4 Gb ram just to keep up!
69. E.N. (Posts: 2610; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
I'm willing to bet that Samsung had no plans at all to incorporate a 64 bit processor. The iPhone 5S is launching BEFORE the Note III, yet Samsung was unable to incorporate the 64-bit processor in a phone that's 2-3 volume of the iPhone and has 3 gigs of RAM? Not even the Galaxy Tab will have it? They obviously weren't planning for it.
71. tedkord (Posts: 11910; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
Because they understand that 64 bit yields negligible improvements unless more than 4gb of ram is employed. The Note 3 had only 3gb of ram.
Read my reply above. I got virtually zero gain from going 64bit in my old desktop. That's why so few desktop programs are 64bit even today. My newest PC has 16gb ram, so it likely sees a benefit, though I can't prove it because I've got only 64bit OS installed.
Yes, manufacturers were planning the move to 64bit, mainly because ARM had already announced they were coming out with 64bit cites early next year.
134. E.N. (Posts: 2610; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
And so why couldn't those devices get 4gig of RAM this year? Samsung will be putting the 64-bit processor in "future devices" yet somehow I doubt the Galaxy S5 and very possibly the Note 4 will be getting 4gigs of ram.
118. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 2971; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
Why would they implement 64 bit now, if android doesnt even support it, nor any apps out there.
135. E.N. (Posts: 2610; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
Why would they announce that they will support it if there's a good possibility that Kit-Kat will not support it?
39. special4u (Posts: 63; Member since: 22 May 2013)
samsung is waiting ARM finalize the design for them so they can put exynos logo on it
54. tedkord (Posts: 11910; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
ARM has been planning 64bit processors for some time, to come out early next year. It was obvious that 64bit was coming next and soon. Apple just rushed to be first probably to set up lawsuits. And the worst part is it's virtually gainless with only one or two gb of ram.
92. thedarkside (Posts: 654; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)
Samsung made the A7 chips in the iphone 5s/5c.
108. jaxson983 (Posts: 43; Member since: 11 Aug 2013)
Samsung is making the A7...is it coping if you are making it in the first place. Also its all useless right now anyway. You will prob have to buy an iphone 6 or 6s or 7 before its worth anything same with Samsung unless they add the ram.
119. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 2971; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
They mass producing it, the cpu itself is designed by Apple. But it is useless right now.
121. Trololol (Posts: 33; Member since: 12 Sep 2013)
"useless right now" i agree with u sir
but we dont know what will happen next, right?
132. jaxson983 (Posts: 43; Member since: 11 Aug 2013)
that's my point. we don't know what will happen next but "next" wont be this phone. It doesn't have the ram. I guess really its an indication that they will stop supporting the 5c and lower in coming years. The 5s will do an eh job with 64bit apps and then future models will be designed around it. Or they will have a huge gap between the top and bottom and more and more apps that work for some phones but not others.
141. Trololol (Posts: 33; Member since: 12 Sep 2013)
but who knows? maybe 4gigs ram on iphone............9s