Samsung patents pressure-sensitive display, hinting at Galaxy S7 with Force Touch tech
2. gecco (Posts: 2; Member since: 19 Oct 2015)
Sure, Huawei might have been the first with force touch on phones, but Samsung might have a better or more interesting approach. We will see when it arrives!
19. 8ozchickenbreast (unregistered)
Where could I purchase said phone prior Sep release of 6S?
36. gecco (Posts: 2; Member since: 19 Oct 2015)
Not sure what that has to do with the pure innovation aspect of it all. There has never been any question about Apple being the first to market, but they sure weren't the first with the innovation of the feature.
41. xfire99 (Posts: 794; Member since: 14 Mar 2012)
Huawei Mate S with force touch released before ip6s dude.
43. Ninetysix (Posts: 2339; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)
Please show me where I can buy the Mate S with force touch. I will wait.
56. rantao333 (Posts: 322; Member since: 21 May 2013)
u can "announce" before any one, but not "release" before any one. be logical and rational made u a better person.
62. Dr.Phil (Posts: 1111; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
While this is true, that Apple wasn't the first to innovate the feature, we do have to keep in perspective that if Apple didn't plan on using it in their phone it may not have been featured in other OEM devices. The only reason Huawei put Force Touch in their device was because it was rumored for months that Apple was going to use the same technology from their smartwatch and put it in their phones (I would say patent filings in January tipped them off more than anything else). So, like any smart business decision made by a company trying to stay ahead of the competition, they decided to work hard and create a similar feature to put in their device before the release of the iPhone. I mean you have to admit, even the announcement date of the Huawei Mate was two days before Apple's big announcement. That wasn't coincidental.
But, to give credit where credit is really due, it was actually Blackberry patents that gave way to what we know as Force Touch today. No, it wasn't possible for screens to bend in 2008 as they do now that gives Force Touch the feeling it does now, but the concept was there. In fact, Blackberry is one of the leading patent holders on the technology next to Apple:
77. meanestgenius (Posts: 9762; Member since: 28 May 2014)
I actually posted something similar in an Apple related article, but someone tried to tell me otherwise. Glad to see I'm not the only one that realizes this.
78. trentsinmypants (Posts: 324; Member since: 29 Jan 2009)
I actually read your whole post in Dr. Phil's voice and by the end of it I wanted to punch my computer screen.
75. Topcat488 (Posts: 1394; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)
Apple don't really design much on their own, they even have to PAY for their phone chip layout... And WE know Apple has NO production factories that they OWN. O.o
3. pwnarena (Posts: 1129; Member since: 15 Feb 2013)
why not focus on that foldable display you already have. that would attract more buyers. stop that force touch bs. it does not add anything significantly useful.
6. TyrionLannister (unregistered)
Samsung is huge with various R&D happening simultaneously. This in no way means they are not working with foldable displays.
Force touch is not BS. It can be used as a right click. And we all know that right click is awesome.
29. Michael.Parker (Posts: 273; Member since: 22 Aug 2015)
Not many people would want a clam shell phone so Samsung will just test the waters before putting anything like that on a flagship.
30. Ordinary (Posts: 2178; Member since: 23 Apr 2015)
44. Ninetysix (Posts: 2339; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)
45. Ordinary (Posts: 2178; Member since: 23 Apr 2015)
Read the patent. It isnt for the display but bezels.
47. Ninetysix (Posts: 2339; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)
Hehe is it. I guess your 2011 one is not the same either since it's for a "mobile terminal" so Samesung filled another one last year.
63. Ordinary (Posts: 2178; Member since: 23 Apr 2015)
"A pressure-sensitive degree control method and system of a mobile terminal including a touchscreen for controlling interaction degree of the touchscreen based on a pressure level of a touch are provided. The method includes detecting a pressure level of the touch made on the touchscreen, configuring an interaction degree of the user interface to be determined based on the pressure level, and controlling operations of the user interface according to the interaction degree."
"An electronic device has a display and has a touch sensitive bezel surrounding the display. Areas on the bezel are designated for controls used to operate the electronic device. Visual guides corresponding to the controls are displayed on the display adjacent the areas of the bezel designated for the controls. Touch data is generated by the bezel when a user touches an area of the bezel. The device determines which of the controls has been selected based on which designated area is associated with the touch data from the bezel. The device then initiates the determined control. The device can have a sensor for determining the orientation of the device. Based on the orientation, the device can alter the areas designated on the bezel for the controls and can alter the location of the visual guides for the display so that they match the altered areas on the bezel."
"What is touchscreen?"
"What is bezel?"
Fam, learn your stuff.
81. Macready (Posts: 844; Member since: 08 Dec 2014)
True, the first fully smartphone specific patent from Apple describing a pressure sensitive screen (rather than bezels) dates from january 2015, the Samsung one from april 2014 and that obviously wasn't the first either.
7. TyrionLannister (unregistered)
You didn't say that when Apple implemented it. Pressure sensitive displays have been there for years. Synaptics had a trackpad with this tech a few years ago.
If this patent is approved now, this means that it was applied for at least 1 year ago.
13. NoToFanboys (Posts: 1129; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)
Do not argue with the ignorant/stupid one please, you're better off spending your time elsewhere
20. bucky (Posts: 2460; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)
you guys still dont get it. Its not about how Samsung is doing after Apple...its about their timing! They dont even give it a bit of time. They literally just wait for apple to start this year's trend and follow it a few months later.
67. Penny (Posts: 1647; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)
R&D for stuff like this lasts longer than a few months. You think Samsung started work on this after Apple announced the new iPhones?
No, these companies plan years into the future. That's what it means to be a technology company with a significant R&D budget. They attempt to understand the market, predict its trends, and build technology to capitalize on those trends when they gain momentum.
8. imnotascammer (Posts: 160; Member since: 22 Aug 2012)
Samsung should've made this available on S6. They'd be tagged as copycats once again. (,--) Apple indeed have a very tactical release dates.
58. j2001m (Posts: 2789; Member since: 28 Apr 2014)
Because all the review website will have just said Samsung back to doing gimmicks again with the s6 and will have said it was crap, so it's best for them to let Apple do it 1st, Samsung got it patented it in 2014 way stopping the reviews for. Saying they copyed it and then they can offer it Inthe normal way
9. dimas (Posts: 1920; Member since: 22 Jul 2014)
I can't think of practical, daily uses for force touch in phones. It is good for tablets and digital artists but for casual users?
10. TheGunnyPT (Posts: 252; Member since: 12 Feb 2015)
It's a bit of a gimmick thing, but as a App Designer I can say that this actually opens door for creative things, especially in games.
Let's just see how many phones will get this first and see how popular it gets. I'm also curious if the next Nexus line will have it.
11. darkkjedii (Posts: 19807; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Before people start with the "copying Apple" crap, Samsung should absolutely implement this tech. It's going to take off big time, as more OEM's implement it, which is good for us. We won't have to change phones to use it, and for those of us who like multiple platforms, we'll have it on whatever we choose to use that day.
One good thing is, Samsung will look to immediately one up Apple with it, which will force Apple to one up them. That's a win win for all of us, especially me, since I use both. Give us something good Samsung.
15. phonehome (Posts: 488; Member since: 19 Dec 2014)
Off topic, but how are the speakers on your 6S Plus (in comparison to the 6/Plus if you had)? I read that wasn't as loud on the newest iteration. Thanks.
23. darkkjedii (Posts: 19807; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
I never compared them, but I didn't notice a drop off either. I'd say about the same.
38. Chuck007 (Posts: 1041; Member since: 02 Mar 2014)
Trolls/fanboys are brainwashed into being the driving force for marketing. With the advancement of Internet technology this have just gotten worse. Just think about it.
55. bubbadoes (Posts: 815; Member since: 03 May 2012)
you have a better explanation to what you are saying?..."Before people start with the "copying Apple" crap" post 11
60. Clars123 (Posts: 601; Member since: 16 Mar 2015)
I personally agree that they should make more choice of the patent stockpile..but notice how when Samsung does anything it's ALWAYS labelled as a gimmick by everyone untill Apple does it.At least this way,with their earlier patent application
1) They can't get sued..they actually invested in the tech
2) The rage from the Apple fanboys claiming they copied will generate the necessary media attention to get people talking about the device
64. DnB925Art (Posts: 950; Member since: 23 May 2013)
I agree with your statement 100%. Competition is good which pushes innovations. +1
12. nctx77 (Posts: 1717; Member since: 03 Sep 2013)
LOL! But, but it's just a long press........until it's on Android!
14. darkkjedii (Posts: 19807; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
LMAOOOOO! Yep... I've read that one quite a bit.
33. XperiaFanZone (Posts: 2049; Member since: 21 Sep 2012)
You're right. It will be more than and better than a "long press".
16. thegeneral7010 (Posts: 320; Member since: 10 Dec 2014)
i agree that apple copied things from samsung but not that fast SHAAAAAME ON U SAMSUNG.
17. Landon (Posts: 404; Member since: 07 May 2015)
I'm curious. Those of you who are iPhone 6S or 6S+ owners: do you honestly use force touch or forget about the feature? Be honest and not biased please.
26. 8ozchickenbreast (unregistered)
Honest and unbiased (as best as possible) opinion here (6S+):
I use Force Touch almost every time I use my phone now. Instantly able to check weather, change the time of my phone for different time zones (I travel a lot) without going into the settings or view the clock, Force Touch the clock to view different time zones when I'm home, FT the messages app to quickly send preset texts to preset contacts, FT the settings icon to enter low power mode, FT the keyboard to pull up a cursor for quick and relentless editing, FT the phone app to quickly make a call, etc.
I use Force Touch for many useful features, and I've gotten so used to it, when I'm on my old 6, I try to Force Touch everything and get disappointed.
I used to think it would be a gimmick. When the keynote came out, I wasn't really too excited for it. I thought how useful is this crap? Well, proved myself wrong.
Developers are beginning to roll out Force Touch support in their apps now since they couldn't earlier (no devices to test / develope on pre release lol), and it's awesome. The stock app options are great, but I don't really interact with in depth actions like Force Touching certain cities when viewing weather to peek at visual effects and detailed info. I'd rather just click and "pop" right into the app immediately. I find myself using FT more with icons, the keyboard, Safari, and other UI features, along with Activator from Cydia.
Sometimes, clicking is faster and more efficient than peeking and popping data, and I prefer to do so. But what we forget to realize is that Force Touch is meant for a mobility / "on the go" situation. It will definitely be improved and become widely accepted from many main stream devs, and hopefully Apple will eliminate useless Force Touch actions (though few, many are well thought out).
34. Landon (Posts: 404; Member since: 07 May 2015)
Thanks for the honest and unbiased view. Generally with iPhone settings, there's an extra step to change something compared to the Android experience. It sounds like it works great with the iPhone iOS to simplify things but might not be as useful if this was slapped on an Android phone considering some of the shortcuts are already there.
At the end of the day, the iPhone 6S is a great phone, along with a number of Android flagship phones.
50. Jimrod (Posts: 997; Member since: 22 Sep 2014)
I think the high-end phone market is stagnating and is always looking for a new gimmick (much like TV's - 3D, curved, 4K, HDR etc) but time will tell if they pan out.
Usually anything which adds functionality, such as the force touch acting as an extra "button" should gradually come to be accepted and soon used so often as to not notice it any more, I expect all decent phones will have an implementation of it within a year or two.
I must admit I even use Siri quite a lot now as for a lot of things it's faster than opening the phone and browser then typing a search in!
57. Landon (Posts: 404; Member since: 07 May 2015)
With my Note 5, I use Google Now a lot and just like Siri, it's extremely useful!
32. aba71983 (Posts: 805; Member since: 24 Jul 2014)
80. AlikMalix (Posts: 5091; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)
Force touch is literally like rightclick. It's like asking if I use rightclick on PC often - Yes! After using a phone with force touch, going back to one without, you have to load another page to see the image closer, you have to load each each email to see what's in it, you constantly have to check each text when looking for recent info (I get a lot of calls from numbers that are not in my contact list - so I have lots of text conversations without designated numbers, hope that make sense).
I do like force touch on iOS keyboard: they took BBs two finger scroll and made it one finger accessible which does not force you to take phone with both hands - just force touch keyboard and scroll your curser.
There are many more things. Force touch changed everything. I honestly didn't know it was going to be this important to me before it came out.