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Samsung intends to fight Apple's product ban request against the Galaxy S III in the US

0. phoneArena 07 Jun 2012, 09:13 posted on

Samsung plans to "demonstrate to the court that the Galaxy S III is innovative and distinctive", which it is to do before June 21, when the Galaxy S III is supposed to hit shelves on most major US carriers. This will give its sales a head start against Apple's next iPhone, whenever it launches this year, and if Cupertino succeeds with the preliminary ban, things can get ugly, considering how long these lawsuits take to be resolved...

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posted on 07 Jun 2012, 11:47 5

54. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Not invented by Apple, but definitely copied by Samsung

posted on 07 Jun 2012, 11:49 1

56. Sackboy117 (Posts: 178; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


Because Samsung trolls Apple in their products and not in court :)

posted on 07 Jun 2012, 11:49 15

57. hepresearch (unregistered)


Apple's new corporate strategy:

1) Find an excuse to block all other competitors' latest flagship devices...
2) ... but don't block Nokia's latest flagship device... they are Microsoft's play toy...
3) ... and don't block Sony's latest flagship devices... Sony is where we plan to maroon Android's future...
4) ... and don't block RIM's latest devices... they make US look good.
5) Keep all excuses on-file, just in case we do need to sue the living snot out of our current "pass recipients."
6) Consider competitors' newest ideas that can be "adapted" for use in the next iPhone, iPad, and iPod Touch.
7) Assemble and brief our patent trolls and our litigation attorney team.
8) Unleash the trolls and attorneys on everyone except the "pass recipients."
9) Send menacing "reminders" to, and collect the "protection money" from, all "pass recipients."
10) Bring in the accounting team to count and stockpile our earnings.
11) A moment of silence in memory of Steve "The Innovator" Jobs...
12) Go back to step 1.

posted on 07 Jun 2012, 11:50 5

60. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Hard to sue when you're busy copying

posted on 07 Jun 2012, 11:52 2

61. hepresearch (unregistered)


I wasn't fast enough to edit this in time before the next poster. So...

Edit: "The Innovator" should read "The GREAT Innovator"...

By the way, I love twelve-step programs...

posted on 07 Jun 2012, 11:53 7

62. EclipseGSX (Posts: 1733; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


You don't have to show me anything. I know Apple can be innovative but Siri is not one of those times. I suppose anything with rows of icons is an iOS clone in your eyes, guess that means my Windows desktop is a clone...

posted on 07 Jun 2012, 11:54 9

64. chadrick0814 (Posts: 209; Member since: 23 Nov 2011)


So Apple didn't copy them ...or I should say, steal them? Its amazing that when Apple creates their own version you think they are 'innovating. When Samsung, HTC, Motorola....or pretty much any major competitor creates their own version then they are copying. You just might be a hypocrite. Apple takes it a step further by suing....then another step further by seeking a ban

posted on 07 Jun 2012, 11:54 6

65. tedkord (Posts: 13031; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


As I stated earlier, with Vlingo and other voice rec/control, Android was already heading toward a talking phone. It was obvious, and their voice rec was way ahead of Apple's. Apple saw this, bought up Siri and rushed it to production, which is why you've got such a half-baked beta app that's inspiring lawsuits from users because it doesn't work as advertised. I thought Apple didn't release beta software.

How does Siri work? It's not AI. Don't fool yourself. It simply feeds your input to Wolfram Alpha, and uses text to speech to read what Wolfram returns. It also has some canned responses built in (like when you ask what the best smartphone of all time is, Apple doesn't want you getting the actual answer that is returned.

posted on 07 Jun 2012, 11:59 7

68. kingpet13 (Posts: 139; Member since: 02 Feb 2012)


Yes taco, google bought a blackberry like os, then in 2007 they released a prada like os within 6 months of another prada like os. Then in 2008 they changed that os a lot. Then in 2009, 2010, and 2011 they upgraded even more. With the bigest upgrade being in 2011. Apple on the other had "invented" the prada like os. And in 2008 "revolutionized" the same os by adding a few pointless feature. Then in 2009, and 2010 added some new features that they also claim to have "invented". Then in 2011 claimed to "inovate" and add a lot of features designed to catch up with android. So google bought a weak os and changed the entire system multiple times, while apple invented some new features to add to a good idea, and barely changed it, since 2007.

posted on 07 Jun 2012, 12:00 2

72. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Actually Siri is ai. Read up on it.

Are you jealous? Siri is the standard in voice on smartphones now and Apple will pull further ahead very soon.

posted on 07 Jun 2012, 12:05 12

79. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)


The difference is that Google didn't buy Android and then go around suing everyone trying to ban products saying they did it first...

You are such an idiot.

posted on 07 Jun 2012, 12:06 5

80. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


You're going to compare prada OS to an iPhone. It shows you're not tech savvy and therefore probably an android user

posted on 07 Jun 2012, 12:08 9

85. Whateverman (Posts: 3283; Member since: 17 May 2009)


The difference is Google didn't go out and sue companies with Android patents. They just used it to make superior products to Apples offerings.

posted on 07 Jun 2012, 12:11 3

88. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Well they can't sue when the whole OS is copied. Nothing original there to sue about.

posted on 07 Jun 2012, 12:12 3

89. hepresearch (unregistered)


It's alright, folks... it is clear that taco hates copying, but is perfectly okay with stealing.

posted on 07 Jun 2012, 12:13 5

90. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


No they took android which was a blackberry clone at the time and reverse engineered iOS.

Hey ggogle nice job on copying Apple and throwing on a couple of half baked features like widgets and live wallpaper that destroyed battery life and made the phones laggy as hell.

posted on 07 Jun 2012, 12:28 2

101. plgladio (Posts: 314; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)


Well said taco, but they are not suing anyone do they?

posted on 07 Jun 2012, 12:35 2

112. true1984 (Posts: 829; Member since: 23 May 2012)


I think the only real downfall to siri is that it was available on iPhone4 until apple decided to buy it and use it as an incentive for you to buy the 4s

posted on 07 Jun 2012, 12:36 1

115. plgladio (Posts: 314; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)


I actually liked the way you said. Double like your comment.

posted on 07 Jun 2012, 12:42 3

117. kingpet13 (Posts: 139; Member since: 02 Feb 2012)


It really is not a ridiculous comparison. Both were original touch screen phones, both had rows of apps, although on the prada you had to hit the menu button to view them. Both were supposed to revolutionize the mobile industry. Both had a similar ppi. Both had a 2 mp camera. Both had the ability to download games. Both had a fairly good browser. Both doubled as mp3 players. Although I will admit the iphone had a better ui, they were similar phones. And probably the two most inovative phones ever. (Although i do think the Prada was more unique). Also i notice you did not deny any of my points. You simply said I was not tech savy, which in many ways is true. I had to look up more facts apout the prada to make this post bc i did not know all the facts so i had to check them.

posted on 07 Jun 2012, 13:12 5

135. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


"...reverse engineered iOS."

Hahaha like 1 2 3.... :D

The truth is that you don't know a s**t about what are you talking...

posted on 07 Jun 2012, 13:12 5

136. Whateverman (Posts: 3283; Member since: 17 May 2009)


Google saw the trend coming and adapted, The same way Apple saw what Palm and Windows Mobile OS did with touchscreens. So your argument is really flimsy.

Its funny how a the things you listed are things that many iPhone users not only say they want but many of which actually void their warranties and jailbreak their phones to get. Apple is even changing iOS to look more like Android and other OS's as well.

posted on 07 Jun 2012, 13:30 4

148. poikilo (Posts: 49; Member since: 07 Jun 2012)


Correction taco....google was one of the leaders in the open source agreement with samsung and htc and a few others...google just took everything to control...no harm done.....google did a lot to android dev...

posted on 07 Jun 2012, 13:36 2

153. poikilo (Posts: 49; Member since: 07 Jun 2012)


iPhone comes close to beating only a prada OS thats why king is comparing...........

posted on 07 Jun 2012, 13:40 6

156. poikilo (Posts: 49; Member since: 07 Jun 2012)


Hey apple nice job making me feel like a baby by telling me wat to do and wat not.....oooooo i like it....Grow up taco iOs is outdated like s**t... same stupid layout for 5 yrs.....nah.....thats not the quality of a smartphone maker............

posted on 07 Jun 2012, 15:27 6

174. remixfa (Posts: 14471; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


actually, like always, he doesnt.

Google bought android way back in version 1.2ish..

google has since invented quite a few things through android... otherwise android would still be like it was back in those OG devices.. and it definitely is not. In fact, Android is NOTHING like what it was back in the day, so its safe to say Google REinvented the whole OS from scratch.. MULTIPLE times.

posted on 07 Jun 2012, 15:27 6

175. remixfa (Posts: 14471; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


no, Siri is WORSE than when apple bought it according to people that had the app before it became part of iOS5.

posted on 07 Jun 2012, 16:51 3

187. gallitoking (Posts: 4720; Member since: 17 May 2011)


nothing is like back in the day... not cars. cell phone... nothing. except. RIM lol.. don't know much about Android back in the day but Google is no different than Apple..

posted on 07 Jun 2012, 18:52 4

192. remixfa (Posts: 14471; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


Really? iOS5 is nearly identical to iOS2 with some minor improvements and new apps. Under your own comment, Apple is the new Blackberry. See how far that got blackberry?

Android 2.0 and android 4.0 are nothing alike.

posted on 07 Jun 2012, 19:13 2

204. Lwazi_N (Posts: 205; Member since: 23 Jun 2011)


If Apple manages to include the SIII in its current motion against Samsung, or finds a way to delay SIII sales, Samsung can get sue Apple for the losses on projected sales. The SIII has seen 9million pre-orders so far, now imagine how many billions Apple stand to lose. They are so stupid because they do not have a leg to stand on in this case.

If you remember this is the trick Apple tried to use against Moto- that if Moto gets an injunction against some Apple gadgets, and they lose the case, Apple would sue them for the losses. I don't quite remember what happened with that story but yeah, Samsung can use the same trick on its inventors.

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