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Samsung first with 'stacked' V-NAND memory for mobile devices

0. phoneArena 06 Aug 2013, 05:45 posted on

After 10 years of research, Samsung has invented a "stacked" NAND flash chip coming in up to 128 GB capacities. These are to go into SSDs this year, and mobile devices like phones and tablets as soon as 2014...

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posted on 06 Aug 2013, 05:48 19

1. SPIDERMAN4 (Posts: 24; Member since: 13 Apr 2011)


That means 4k video

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 06:45 25

20. ZettaiRyouiki (Posts: 39; Member since: 05 Aug 2013)


Glorious 4K porn. (y)
Im all in for larger spaces on a phone.

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 07:41 1

28. icyrock1 (Posts: 263; Member since: 25 Mar 2013)


Just what I was thinking! ;P

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 09:02 5

36. sid07desai (Posts: 237; Member since: 03 May 2012)


Watching 4k video on a phone is pointless. The human eyes can't detect quality beyond 1080p. Recording 4k videos is a different thing. You can watch them on a 80 inch flatscreen via hdmi.

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 21:00 1

73. ZettaiRyouiki (Posts: 39; Member since: 05 Aug 2013)


1080p is already maximum on a phone to me, and 2500X1600 is pointless. But, that's how trend is. But the tech geeks out there sure love to ask for more. How about more battery life instead.

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 08:10 9

32. gazmatic (Posts: 502; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)


128Gb is only 16GB

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 08:44 4

34. apple4never (Posts: 763; Member since: 08 May 2013)


no 128gb is 128gb

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 13:16 1

62. SuperMaoriBro (Posts: 185; Member since: 23 Jun 2012)


Learn the difference between a Gb and a GB. A lower case b means bit, a capital B means byte. 1 byte equals 8 bits

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 08:56 7

35. g2a5b0e (Posts: 1930; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)


I just read the press release. You're absolutely right.
128Gb to 1Tb = 16GB to 128GB.

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 11:20

54. kabhijeet.16 (Posts: 553; Member since: 05 Dec 2012)


Article also says it can stack 24 chips together. Which means 24x16GB to 24x128GB=384GB to 3072GB.. I guess...!!!!

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 10:52 2

48. iushnt (Posts: 467; Member since: 06 Feb 2013)


It's 128GB to 1TB there

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 13:15 5

61. a_merryman (Posts: 546; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)


The author needs to proofread, or read the article better. It even says 128 Gigabits in the article....and yet the author still wrote it as gigabytes

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 00:22

74. Topcat488 (Posts: 1040; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)


This is nothing but a simple written math problem, that's taught in logistics and management schools all around the world, at least here in Germany.

1 V-NAND Chip = 16 GB... Samsung stacked 24, which equals 384 GB, that could be used in Tablets... Samsung will put up to 8 V-NAND Chips in their smartphones...

8 V-NAND Chips = 128 GB. ;)

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 16:40 3

68. AnTuTu (Posts: 599; Member since: 14 Oct 2012)


The Undisputed King of innovation ----> Samsung

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 16:59

69. nasznjoka (Posts: 222; Member since: 05 Oct 2012)


Indeed where's bricks boys wit'em cams?

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 05:50 35

2. belovedson (Posts: 821; Member since: 30 Nov 2010)


innovation again

samsung is the best no doubt at least in the moment

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 06:29 6

15. rantao333 (Posts: 157; Member since: 21 May 2013)


Samsung make garbages all the time, but i gotta admit that they still made the best memory chips out there.

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 06:44 9

17. sri_tech (Posts: 184; Member since: 21 May 2013)


But they will still use only 16 GB in their flagship phones out of which only 8.8 GB will be available for end user.

In 2011, S2 has 16GB.
In 2013, S4 has 16GB only.

When is 32 GB is going to be minimum? Its not like they are selling them for very cheap like nexus 4.

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 07:27 6

24. Volcra (Posts: 17; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)


Isn't that what the External Sd-Card slot is for?

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 07:32 7

26. ZettaiRyouiki (Posts: 39; Member since: 05 Aug 2013)


I prefer large internal space of at least 64Gb + no SD card.
You cant install apps onto a SD card.

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 10:46 3

45. joey_sfb (Posts: 1973; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


I prefer a large internal memory 64GB + future proofed microSD card slot that accept >128GB microSD card.

Both have their designated uses.

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 10:47 3

46. deathgod (Posts: 107; Member since: 23 Nov 2011)


Not sure but I think you can with apps2SD.

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 15:05

66. roscuthiii (Posts: 1717; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)


You can run apps from an SD card with things like Apps2SD. For at least a few years now even. Had apps running from the SD card on my old Droid Eris a long while back.
The caveat was the app could experience some limited functions then, but that may have been addressed by now.

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 17:05

70. nasznjoka (Posts: 222; Member since: 05 Oct 2012)


or using ADB without even rooting your phone you can run a command " adb shell(./adb shell on ubuntu) enter
pm setInstallLocation 2 enter
.."
there you have set the install location to be an SDCARD by default

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 07:45 1

29. icyrock1 (Posts: 263; Member since: 25 Mar 2013)


They didn't make this, you know. Panasonic is releasing this next month, for example.

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2013/07/31/panasonic-reram/1

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 10:16 1

40. boosook (Posts: 774; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)


LOL... those Samsung fanboys! This is REAL innovation:
http://www.crossbar-inc.com/events/press-releases/crossbar-emerges-from-stealth-mode.html
(and it's really 1TB)
Samsung's module has not been released and it looks outdated already.

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 13:01 2

59. willard12 (Posts: 552; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)


Either way, apple will be buying them from Samsung by the truckload.

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 13:31

63. a_merryman (Posts: 546; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)


Wow, that is impressive

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 06:02 13

3. affandi (Posts: 82; Member since: 25 Jan 2013)


Thank you Samsung.. finally. Note 4 will hopefully have this 128 GB storage

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 06:03 2

4. Sesameopen (Posts: 96; Member since: 02 Aug 2013)


About time...

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 06:08 2

5. hamoon (Posts: 15; Member since: 05 Aug 2012)


It's awesome

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 06:08 12

6. Yeahman (Posts: 33; Member since: 13 Mar 2012)


It says 128 Gb in the press release, not 128 GB. 128 Gb = 16 GB.

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 06:16 6

9. Spariant (Posts: 8; Member since: 09 Mar 2012)


yeah similarly 1Tb and not 1TB.

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 06:21

13. sudhiir.reddy (Posts: 28; Member since: 08 Jun 2013)


I am not made to read your mind and understand whatever you throw, plz be elaborated or specific...

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 06:44 11

18. Saintmarino (Posts: 12; Member since: 02 Dec 2012)


128 Gb (not GB) means 128 Gigabits, not 128 Gigabytes.

128 Gb = 16 GB (Gigabytes). Same goes for terabit (Tb) conversion. Basically, the capacity is much smaller than what this article incorrectly interprets.

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 09:11 1

38. apple4never (Posts: 763; Member since: 08 May 2013)


well i think that most people wouldnt notice that Gb, GB difference at first most would assume its a gigabyte not a gigabit

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 13:33

64. a_merryman (Posts: 546; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)


They're even less likely to notice when the author write it wrong and the press release most don't read anyways is hidden. It should be expected that the writers of a tech site know the difference between GB and Gb.

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 11:02

50. hunted (Posts: 287; Member since: 21 Sep 2011)


well explained!!!

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 06:35 2

16. ecdumb (Posts: 5; Member since: 15 Jul 2013)


yeah,, and 1Tb = 128GB

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 06:14 2

7. nobelset (Posts: 265; Member since: 17 Oct 2012)


OK. I'm freaking out........ That girl in the background is so prettyyyy. *Ahem* back to topic. Great job Samsung, great job.

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 06:45 1

19. ZettaiRyouiki (Posts: 39; Member since: 05 Aug 2013)


Because the face is filled with silicon/plastic.

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 08:38 1

33. nobelset (Posts: 265; Member since: 17 Oct 2012)


I really don't care. If you're born beautiful, good for you.

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 09:59

39. tedkord (Posts: 3932; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


That was a retarded Samsung slam.

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 07:12 2

22. LetsBeHonest (Posts: 547; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)


Ya she's cute....

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 02:09

77. BooBooooooo (Posts: 50; Member since: 07 Aug 2013)


i can't agree with you

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 06:16

8. rawbow (Posts: 405; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)


someone was whining about SD slots, that day is not far when internal memory would be everything you need

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 06:27 3

14. nobelset (Posts: 265; Member since: 17 Oct 2012)


Everyone has different needs and I, for instance carry around my micro SD cards everywhere. The fact that they can be used AND reused in a variety of devices is extremely helpful for me. But I do agree, at some point the slots in phones could become obsolete.

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 06:18

10. dilipptt (Posts: 2; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)


now i m waiting for samsung phone to realease with this memory...

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 06:18 1

11. collapse (Posts: 1; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)


V-NAND chip offers a 128-gigabit (16GB) capacity

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 06:19 3

12. Bfrenz (Posts: 106; Member since: 26 Aug 2012)


Daniel,change GB to Gb(Gigabit).

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 07:00 5

21. yowanvista (Posts: 275; Member since: 20 Sep 2011)


Phonearena FAIL.

128Gb = 16GB

Learn the difference between Gigabit and Gigabyte.

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 07:14

23. great (Posts: 39; Member since: 21 Jan 2013)


wit this chip a samsung tab running windows 8.1 at around 400-450 $ will be a steal !

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 07:30 2

25. gazmatic (Posts: 502; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)


faulty advertising

exciting only to people that dont know the difference between GB and Gb

1Gb = 0.125GB
128Gb = 16GB
1000Gb = 125GB

PA please change the title

"Samsung’s new V-NAND offers a 128 gigabit (Gb)..."

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 07:36

27. piyath (Posts: 150; Member since: 23 Mar 2012)


WTF! It says 128 GB and 1TB CLEARLY you sh..t...

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 08:09 5

31. gazmatic (Posts: 502; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)


Samsung’s new V-NAND offers a 128 gigabit (Gb) density in a single chip, utilizing the company’s proprietary vertical cell structure based on 3D Charge Trap Flash (CTF) technology and vertical interconnect process technology to link the 3D cell array. By applying both of these technologies, Samsung’s 3D V-NAND is able to provide over twice the scaling of 20nm-class* planar NAND flash. - See more at:http://global.samsungtomorrow.com/?p=26510#sthash.QOwoFclW.dpuf

learn to read before you start insulting people

phonearena made a mistake

go to the source and you will see for yourself that it says Gb NOT GB

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 10:29 1

42. sniper1087 (Posts: 310; Member since: 31 Dec 2011)


Thank you I was about to insult him for being ignorant and commenting without reading it first, yes Daniel P. from PA wrote it and made a mistake he should fix it otherwise losing credibility, seriously post an article but get your facts straight 128 Gigabits, is not impressive now the 1Terabit was bound to happen after apple released the 128gb iPad, so not surprising, I hope prices still stay the same

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 17:08

71. nasznjoka (Posts: 222; Member since: 05 Oct 2012)


if it was only 16 who would even care to publish such a story????

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 13:13

60. willard12 (Posts: 552; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)


The 16 GB can have up to 24 stacked layers......therefore it still creates a lot of space and is still exciting.

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 08:06

30. grahaman27 (Posts: 238; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


Devices start at 128GB? Yeah right, they will have standard flash memory staring at 32 or even 16. This v-ram will be a premium option.

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 10:44 3

44. sniper1087 (Posts: 310; Member since: 31 Dec 2011)


Starts at 128Gb(gigabits) and up to 1Tb(terabits) according to samsung press release which means 16GB (gigabytes) and up to 128GB(gigabytes) of course PA failed to proof read their own article and left it as is instead of fixing the error.

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