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Samsung first with 'stacked' V-NAND memory for mobile devices

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Samsung first with 'stacked' V-NAND memory for mobile devices
"Stacked" or "3D" chips are nothing new, as Intel is already having those out on the market in the form of the new Haswell processors in your computer, for example.

Samsung, however, is applying the tech to flash memory modules for the first time, and the type that are to go into mobile devices like phones and tablets at that, or to cluster together for solid sate drives. 

Called V-NAND, the technology layers the memory chips on top of each other, instead of side-by-side, thus saving precious space and allowing for larger capacities, not to mention faster and more durable internal storage chips. Samsung managed to stack not one or two, but 24 of those NAND modules on top of each other, and it's the interconnect between those that it says is the "secret sauce" for making the memory faster.

Not only faster, but in large capacities, too, as those V-NAND chips start you off with 16 GB of internal storage, shooting all the way up to 128 GB, thus all but eliminating the need for a separate microSD card slot, for example. The best part is that this is not some far-fetched technology years down the pipeline, but Samsung has actually sent those out for mobile device makers to sample, and is ready to produce them in mass quantities.

The V-NAND chips are expected to make it in SSD memory as soon as this year, and in mobile devices they will be landing in 2014, said Samsung, and added that the technology is a result of no less than 10 years of research on its part, now guarded by more than 300 patents.

+- Press Release
source: Samsung 

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posted on 06 Aug 2013, 05:48 19

1. SPIDERMAN4 (Posts: 27; Member since: 13 Apr 2011)


That means 4k video

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 06:45 25

20. ZettaiRyouiki (Posts: 39; Member since: 05 Aug 2013)


Glorious 4K porn. (y)
Im all in for larger spaces on a phone.

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 07:41 1

28. icyrock1 (Posts: 307; Member since: 25 Mar 2013)


Just what I was thinking! ;P

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 09:02 5

36. sid07desai (Posts: 290; Member since: 03 May 2012)


Watching 4k video on a phone is pointless. The human eyes can't detect quality beyond 1080p. Recording 4k videos is a different thing. You can watch them on a 80 inch flatscreen via hdmi.

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 21:00 1

73. ZettaiRyouiki (Posts: 39; Member since: 05 Aug 2013)


1080p is already maximum on a phone to me, and 2500X1600 is pointless. But, that's how trend is. But the tech geeks out there sure love to ask for more. How about more battery life instead.

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 08:10 9

32. gazmatic (Posts: 795; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)


128Gb is only 16GB

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 08:44 4

34. apple4never (Posts: 1064; Member since: 08 May 2013)


no 128gb is 128gb

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 13:16 1

62. SuperMaoriBro (Posts: 527; Member since: 23 Jun 2012)


Learn the difference between a Gb and a GB. A lower case b means bit, a capital B means byte. 1 byte equals 8 bits

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 08:56 7

35. g2a5b0e (Posts: 3725; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)


I just read the press release. You're absolutely right.
128Gb to 1Tb = 16GB to 128GB.

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 11:20

54. kabhijeet.16 (Posts: 811; Member since: 05 Dec 2012)


Article also says it can stack 24 chips together. Which means 24x16GB to 24x128GB=384GB to 3072GB.. I guess...!!!!

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 10:52 2

48. iushnt (Posts: 1785; Member since: 06 Feb 2013)


It's 128GB to 1TB there

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 13:15 5

61. a_merryman (Posts: 749; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)


The author needs to proofread, or read the article better. It even says 128 Gigabits in the article....and yet the author still wrote it as gigabytes

posted on 07 Aug 2013, 00:22

74. Topcat488 (Posts: 1396; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)


This is nothing but a simple written math problem, that's taught in logistics and management schools all around the world, at least here in Germany.

1 V-NAND Chip = 16 GB... Samsung stacked 24, which equals 384 GB, that could be used in Tablets... Samsung will put up to 8 V-NAND Chips in their smartphones...

8 V-NAND Chips = 128 GB. ;)

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 16:40 3

68. AnTuTu (Posts: 1580; Member since: 14 Oct 2012)


The Undisputed King of innovation ----> Samsung

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 16:59

69. nasznjoka (Posts: 402; Member since: 05 Oct 2012)


Indeed where's bricks boys wit'em cams?

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 05:50 35

2. belovedson (Posts: 998; Member since: 30 Nov 2010)


innovation again

samsung is the best no doubt at least in the moment

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 06:29 6

15. rantao333 (Posts: 322; Member since: 21 May 2013)


Samsung make garbages all the time, but i gotta admit that they still made the best memory chips out there.

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 06:44 9

17. sri_tech (Posts: 188; Member since: 21 May 2013)


But they will still use only 16 GB in their flagship phones out of which only 8.8 GB will be available for end user.

In 2011, S2 has 16GB.
In 2013, S4 has 16GB only.

When is 32 GB is going to be minimum? Its not like they are selling them for very cheap like nexus 4.

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 07:27 6

24. Volcra (Posts: 21; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)


Isn't that what the External Sd-Card slot is for?

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 07:32 7

26. ZettaiRyouiki (Posts: 39; Member since: 05 Aug 2013)


I prefer large internal space of at least 64Gb + no SD card.
You cant install apps onto a SD card.

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 10:46 3

45. joey_sfb (Posts: 6000; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


I prefer a large internal memory 64GB + future proofed microSD card slot that accept >128GB microSD card.

Both have their designated uses.

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 10:47 3

46. deathgod (Posts: 122; Member since: 23 Nov 2011)


Not sure but I think you can with apps2SD.

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 15:05

66. roscuthiii (Posts: 2226; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)


You can run apps from an SD card with things like Apps2SD. For at least a few years now even. Had apps running from the SD card on my old Droid Eris a long while back.
The caveat was the app could experience some limited functions then, but that may have been addressed by now.

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 17:05

70. nasznjoka (Posts: 402; Member since: 05 Oct 2012)


or using ADB without even rooting your phone you can run a command " adb shell(./adb shell on ubuntu) enter
pm setInstallLocation 2 enter
.."
there you have set the install location to be an SDCARD by default

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 07:45 1

29. icyrock1 (Posts: 307; Member since: 25 Mar 2013)


They didn't make this, you know. Panasonic is releasing this next month, for example.

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2013/07/31/panasonic-reram/1

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 10:16 1

40. boosook (Posts: 1437; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)


LOL... those Samsung fanboys! This is REAL innovation:
http://www.crossbar-inc.com/events/press-releases/crossbar-emerges-from-stealth-mode.html
(and it's really 1TB)
Samsung's module has not been released and it looks outdated already.

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 13:01 2

59. willard12 (Posts: 1721; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)


Either way, apple will be buying them from Samsung by the truckload.

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 13:31

63. a_merryman (Posts: 749; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)


Wow, that is impressive

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 06:02 13

3. affandi (Posts: 85; Member since: 25 Jan 2013)


Thank you Samsung.. finally. Note 4 will hopefully have this 128 GB storage

posted on 06 Aug 2013, 06:03 2

4. Sesameopen (Posts: 109; Member since: 02 Aug 2013)


About time...

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