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Samsung files appeal on Samsung GALAXY Nexus injunction

0. phoneArena 01 Jul 2012, 21:34 posted on

Samsung has just filed with the Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit for a stay of the injunction against the Samsung GALAXY Nexus; the motion asks for the stay to cover the entire 'duration of the appeal' or until the Court rules on the stay...

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posted on 01 Jul 2012, 21:41 3

4. Birds (Posts: 1165; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)


This is getting ridiculous!!! Both Apple and Samsung are at fault. Samsung shouldn't be trying to put out so many devices that infringe so many patents. Apple sue over innovation not gimmicks. Siri is only correct 40% of times so who cares about it? This is like watching 2 nine year old kids fight over who get the biggest slice of pie.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 23:33 7

29. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10457; Member since: 14 May 2012)


"Samsung shouldn't be trying to put out so many devices that infringe so many patents. Apple sue over innovation not gimmicks."

Your comment made me lol.

How is Samsung in the wrong? The patents Apple have are so unnecessary that they pay judges so they can win. They have $65 billion dollars to spend. Instead of spending it on new technology for a better tomorrow, they decide to pay for the lawyers' childrens college tuition.

posted on 02 Jul 2012, 01:52

40. Birds (Posts: 1165; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)


I didn't explain myself clear enough I guess. I was just saying that Samsung should double check before they release a device that may infringe on patents let alone a swarm of devices. I'm saying this because Apple is realizing that everyone is making more innovative phones then they are so they have to sue about every frivolous patent. I'm not taking any sides from my stand points but I do see where Samsung is coming from. If Apple made a good phone instead of a good gadget then I'd vouch for them but nope, they are stuck in limbo with samsung because they don't know when to give up.

posted on 02 Jul 2012, 09:41

53. tedkord (Posts: 12301; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


The problem is, Apple is filing for and getting patents that are overly broad and can cover anything. Swipe to unlock? Ignoring that there's prior art and the patent should have never been awarded, they are claiming it covers ANY touchscreen gesture to unlock a phone.

The patent system us lost, chaotic. Instead if specific invention, Apple is being allowed to patent generuc, obvious things. It's as if Alexander Graham Bell had been granted a patent for "A method of transmitting voice or sounds over distances", then sued Marconi for the radio.

Until we get the patent system fixed, unethical companies like Apple will continue to abuse it to limit competition and innovation. Everyone angered by this should go to

https://defendinnovation.org/

and sign the petition, to try and get Congress to end the insanity that is the patent system.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 21:44 11

5. TheRetroReplay (Posts: 254; Member since: 20 Mar 2012)


I find it funny that they're saying that Apple will suffer "irreparable harm."

There is no harm in this at all, people are going to buy what they like, it's a preference. Some people like the Camero some people like the Mustang, they're both cars and both operate in the same manner but you don't see Ford and GM going at it in court. You don't see HP and Dell in court suing each other and so on and so forth, this business is all based on the customers preference.

But Apple obviously doesn't want the customers to have preference, that's why they started this smartphone war, the only preference they will allow you to have is 16 gig or 32 gig and in black or white.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 22:35 7

21. RapidCat (Posts: 351; Member since: 12 Jun 2012)


last resport say Apple iPhone sales increase.
if samsung do any harm the sales will go down, not up

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 22:58 2

26. nyuvo (Posts: 72; Member since: 10 May 2012)


Funny thing is that they are reporting damages due to a smart phone which hasn't got a huge market share of the android ecosystem. Fair enough that they could claim the S2 or S3 of "harming" their sales and marketshare but the nexus is just another device.

Also seeing as google wrote the code for this device, shouldn't google be held accountable?

posted on 02 Jul 2012, 00:02 2

34. kanagadeepan (Posts: 945; Member since: 24 Jan 2012)


Since 1) Google is NOT making money with use of those features, they can't sue... 2) Even if they sue and Google starts to take counter patent trolls, cr@pple can't be in business then...

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 21:45 8

6. AndroidVsApple (Posts: 12; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)


Why is Apple Irritating Samsung So Much?! The Galaxy Nexus is Alot Different Than Apple. idk Why Apple is being so picky about it. i Mean The Galaxy S III is a Different Operating System. And Plus Apple Stole The Notification Drop Down Box. idk Apple is Out of its damn mind.... if im Mistaken on something. Tell me

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 21:58 8

10. frydaexiii (Posts: 1460; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)


Isn't it obvious? Apple can't handle the rigors of business. They wanna make it big, but are afraid to fall. They are ok with everyone choosing their devices, but p*ssy out when another company comes along with a better product that could potentially lure customers away from them.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 22:36 2

22. RapidCat (Posts: 351; Member since: 12 Jun 2012)


Good friend can be Best enemy

look at history steve jobs and samsung founder
they close friends and now therid company become enemy

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 21:47 5

7. tedkord (Posts: 12301; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


FOSS never sees anything other than Apple winning, Mueller's a hanger on. Fortunately, you can flip a coin and be right as often as he is.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 21:54 14

8. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5711; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


Samsung's argument is solid, it doesn't take a lawyer to figure out that Apple is playing the Victim here. looks like we're going to have to get Mothers of small Children to come in and teach these Judges about how to deal with these two.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 22:29 6

20. Birds (Posts: 1165; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)


Lol, I couldn't agree more.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 23:35 6

30. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10457; Member since: 14 May 2012)


+1 for you sir.

posted on 02 Jul 2012, 02:17 2

41. E.N. (Posts: 2610; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)


"The Court's finding that Apple will suffer irreparable harm was based on legally insufficient evidence that Samsung and Apple are competitors."

This is by far one of the dumbest arguments I have ever read from Samsung. I think Samsung's entire marketing scheme with the "barista" and "Samsunged" is plenty proof that the courts ruling was appropriate.

posted on 02 Jul 2012, 03:55 2

43. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5711; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


the point is Apple can't prove that Market Share was affected as per Apple's Argument of Samsung infringing on the IP in question. you should know that wording things a certain way will stir things up differently in Court. it's not new and besides everyone knows that Samsung and Apple are competitors in the Market, that's natural, that's not what they're bringing to question, it's whether or not Samsung has gained a competitive edge due to this. which they haven't it's silly. using a search patent against the Galaxy Nexus? really? this kind of stuff should not hold up in Court. it's obvious abuse of the patent and court systems. i like Judge Posner's take on this.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 22:01 4

12. AndroidVsApple (Posts: 12; Member since: 01 Jul 2012)


Samsung Should Beat The Ass of Apple. Man Like Settle it already Damn it idk about the Galaxy S III but Not the Nexus.. Its Good Spec Its Really Nice...iPhone...Ehhhh Well its Good But You Have to Jailbreak it to Get EVERYThing. So Obviously Samsung Should win ... ( i Think im off on everything im just saying that Samsung Should Win.)

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 22:28 2

17. readingthissh1t (Posts: 303; Member since: 20 Jul 2011)


i dont even care, im running jellybean with a few mods atm. people who want nexus shouldve gotten theirs already. new nexus in afew months. dont wake the google up apple, thats when sh1t gets real. btw im back peeps

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 22:38 1

23. RapidCat (Posts: 351; Member since: 12 Jun 2012)


i dont think new nexus will come soon,
new nexus maybe when andoid touch the v 4.2 or v5.0

posted on 02 Jul 2012, 01:01 1

36. readingthissh1t (Posts: 303; Member since: 20 Jul 2011)


nexus devices are yearly.
Galaxy nexus launched really late last year. Maybe late October-ish. New nexus should launch around there. only thing is, i have seen any leaks about a new nexus phone.

posted on 02 Jul 2012, 04:03 1

45. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5711; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


the launch of the Nexus 7 is what has created an unstable element here. we have no idea what Google's plans are based on what we've seen consistently in the past because there's been no Nexus Tablet, at least not one that evolved the phone scheme of things too being that Jelly Bean is a unified OS for Phones and Tablets unlike Honeycomb. will Google announce a new OS in the fall to justify launching a new Nexus? if so most would say that things are moving too fast because that would be the third OS update in a year.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 22:39 6

24. Aeires (unregistered)


In the end, this will be nothing more than a delay tactic from Apple. Most, if not all of these patents are extremely vague in nature and won't hold up under further scrutiny. Apple has tried many times to stop the sales of Samsung products and failed every time from permanently banning them.

What Apple has done is exploit a problem with Android phones, slow updates. They know the Galaxy Nexus is going to receive an update immanently soon and want it banned to keep the general public from seeing Jelly Bean. The S3 is already being sold so that horse is out of the stable, nor will it see Jelly Bean for probably six months or more. By that time, the next iPhone will be out and they'll be preaching their upgrades in commercials on a regular basis.

In the end, it's really the consumer who will decide. Samsung will continue to make and sell Android phones because they sell extremely well and make them lots of money. Apple will continue to sell iPhones because there are enough people who buy into their marketing. Neither side is going out of business any time soon.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 23:38 3

31. skymitch89 (Posts: 1308; Member since: 05 Nov 2010)


We'll just have to see what the "judge" has to say about this. I think the defense that Apple has not suffered any irreparable harm and that they haven't suffered any market loss because of the infringement is a good one. I also think that if Apple is suing/getting an injunction on the Galaxy Nexus because of the "unified search", then they should be suing HTC, Motorola, ZTE, Huawei, any other Android manufacturer, and most importantly Google because that is a feature in basically every device that has, I think, at least Android 2.2 or above.

posted on 01 Jul 2012, 23:43 7

32. ilia1986 (unregistered)


Can't wait for Samsung to ban the iPhone and the iPad in all of the US. :)

posted on 02 Jul 2012, 01:01 1

35. gallitoking (Posts: 4720; Member since: 17 May 2011)


but you are not in the U.S.. illia? good that you have hope,, Samsung and the Android world needs it

posted on 02 Jul 2012, 04:21 2

46. ilia1986 (unregistered)


No I am not in the US. Why would we need hope? Apple is the one which needs hope - it's global market share is less than half of that of Android..

Everyone knows how this ends. Android becomes the new Symbian, while Apple remains a niche company.

posted on 02 Jul 2012, 11:54

55. gallitoking (Posts: 4720; Member since: 17 May 2011)


how is Apple becoming the new Symbian.. Apple is successful and it doesn't seem to be slowing down.. so please explain to me how that would happen?..

posted on 02 Jul 2012, 13:49

56. ilia1986 (unregistered)


Apple has always been about offering a product to a niche market. I see no reason for why would that change.

posted on 02 Jul 2012, 05:36 4

47. sguyx (Posts: 12; Member since: 02 Jul 2012)


Apple's earliest innovations: Lets take softwares/harwares from the others.
Apple's earlier innovations: Lets do some products.
Apple's this day innovations: Lets make some updates and sell them as new iphone/ipad/i-blablabla.
Apple's new innovations: Lets sue everyone all the time!

???

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