Samsung executive onboard plane that crashed in San Francisco, sent messages on Path and Twitter
0. phoneArena 06 Jul 2013, 16:46 posted on
Mobile technology has evolved to the point that a passenger on a plane that just crash landed can send out information about the incident through social networks; this allows the world to have a first-hand look into a horrific event. Samsung executive David Eun was a passenger on Asiana Flight 214 which crash-landed in San Francisco on Saturday...
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1. darkkjedii (Posts: 21186; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Man, my heart goes out to the ones that died. Very sad event. :(
32. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 12941; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
Very sad indeed. Hoping for the better.
35. darkkjedii (Posts: 21186; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Yeah Mxy I hate stuff like this, tragedy sucks man.
40. TheLolGuy (Posts: 483; Member since: 05 Mar 2013)
Well I suppose it'd be naive to think damage like that doesn't involve at least one death, but... the article and source doesn't mention a death anywhere.
Edit: Ah, apparently user Commentator said 2 died. My condolences...
2. Commentator (Posts: 3684; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
Two fatalities, pray the survivors make it through alright.
3. Birds (Posts: 1157; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
Well, I hate to be the one to say stuff happens for a reason but... stuff happens for a reason... Sad, but not really surprised. Lets just be glad that it wasn't related to terrorism.
Anyways, those big 150 ft long jets are high maintenance. Those survivors should be thankful for the fact the tail didn't come off high altitude.
It just makes me wonder....well nevermind...might strike nerves with that thought.
9. smallworld (Posts: 484; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)
Damn !!!! (American) people need to stop thinking every plane crash is terrorism related !! Stop being so frustrated.
I haven't heard of a plane crashing since so much time that this news saddens me deeply.
16. Birds (Posts: 1157; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
To be clear, I never think plane crashes are related to terrorism unless evidence points to otherwise... I know a little to much about those giant flying jets to just write off every plane crash as a terrorism. That is an allegation you just decided to assume... That was not my point... My point was actually towards the fact that a plane that we trust to carry hundreds of people across oceans should be better maintained...
37. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 3747; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)
On a funny note, it looks like it was David who crash landed on the plane, lol...with reference to his tweet.
41. RaKithAPeiRiZ (Posts: 1488; Member since: 29 Dec 2011)
its pilot error according to many reports
11. darkkjedii (Posts: 21186; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Strike nerves with what thought Birds? Why not express your thoughts bro?
15. Whateverman (Posts: 3262; Member since: 17 May 2009)
Just reading what he already wrote... I'm thinking maybe he should hold on to that last thought.
17. darkkjedii (Posts: 21186; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Yeah me too, especially on this site. Whatup WM
22. Whateverman (Posts: 3262; Member since: 17 May 2009)
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Dude, if you are the 80's Hip Hop fan I think you are, you gotta check this out. Off topic, i know, but I knew you would appreciate this mix.
23. darkkjedii (Posts: 21186; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
I am, and I will bro. Run DMC LL EPMD whodini stetsasonic afrikan bombata Eric B and Rakim P.E. Big Daddy Kane Ice T, dude the list goes on and on man. I'm all about old skool. Some new skool, but people like Wayne do nothing for me.
19. Birds (Posts: 1157; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
I said it in the above comment. I don't know how it will be perceived but here goes... It just makes me a little bit ill to know how much maintenance goes into these giant jets and that tiny little mishaps such as a loosened bolt can cause enough foil and aerodynamic issues that the tail plane comes off.
I don't like the "mistakes happens" line considering how there is life on the line. It could have been a manufacturing error or just a maintenance error. Either way, a plane carrying lives crashed... I hope I don't come off as mad, I just wonder how these little issues go about unnoticed....
I also want to know more details about the plane itself, as well as the airline. I'm just curious.
20. Whateverman (Posts: 3262; Member since: 17 May 2009)
I'm with you Birds. But I'm less in wonder and more in disgust, that is if what I'm also thinking is correct.
With manufacturing becoming more about the numbers and less about the customers, and in this case less about safety, my mind unfortunately went right back to the last few emergency landings as of late and I automatically assumed it was a manufacturing and/or maintenance issue. I know I shouldn't assume, but I've seen sub par products shoved out the door, just for the sake of meeting quota, and planes are no different. The faster they can make a plane, the more money it makes for the company. But I'm trying to hold judgement until the evidence is clear.
21. Birds (Posts: 1157; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
That is why I'm left wondering rather than trying to say OMG....this happened because this didn't happen so yadayadayada I'm pissed and butthurt because a person I don't know died and yadayadayada... If more info surfaces in the future, I will then cast my judgement and do my "tisk tisk tisk sermon"... LMAO
And I agree... Considering how big those planes are there should be not corners cut...It looks to me to be a Boeing 747 but I'm no expert so I can't say for sure. An issue I was a bit afraid to address was if the airline was Korean or not...Not to knock Korean Airlines or what other Asiatic/Foreign airline there is but I don't know their history on product maintenance. So again, to cast judgement there would be illogical... I guess I'll go back to having no life an waiting for more evidence to pop up. :)
24. darkkjedii (Posts: 21186; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
777 Boeing, and along with WM I agree with you too yo. That's why I've grown wary of air travel. Only if I feel it's required, otherwise the beauty of driving a rental car is what I'm doing. My wife to be and I get married on 9-21-13, and we've already said we're picking up a rental and driving to our honeymoon destination...San Diego Cali. We're renting a brand new Vette for that.
25. Birds (Posts: 1157; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
Oh thanks, I couldn't tell because I couldn't see the engine pods. I guess they were damaged in the crash too. I feel noobish for not recognizing it...-_-... lol I generally know my planes.
26. darkkjedii (Posts: 21186; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
You sound like you're into it. Respect for that yo
29. guest (Posts: 338; Member since: 13 Jun 2012)
Asiana is a great airline I have flown them a few times. They are part of Star Alliance NOT Oneworld like the associated press got wrong. Their maintenance and standards have to be high to belong in the alliance which United Airlines founded. There are a lot of things that need to be approved before they can fly into the United States as well as be a part of the alliance.
34. Birds (Posts: 1157; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
Well that is good to hear and all but that only makes it worse IMHO... It only makes me wonder how it managed to happen if Star Alliance is held up to such a high standard....JS...
30. guest (Posts: 338; Member since: 13 Jun 2012)
The 777 has never had a fatality until today since it was introduced in 1995 and today's crash was pilot error. It is the workhorse of a lot of international airlines. Nothing wrong with the plane. SFO is tricky to land at. I used to fly in and out of there all of the time to go to Asia.
28. guest (Posts: 338; Member since: 13 Jun 2012)
The jet was not the problem it was pilot error. The plane was coming in too low and by the time the pilot realized it and tried to increase altitude it was too late. Pilot error caused a tail strike at the edge of the runway because the angle of attack was too high which popped the tail off and slammed the plane into the ground where it skidded to a halt.
43. Dmitry (Posts: 20; Member since: 16 Apr 2013)
Human factor, imho. Official investigation will make the conclusion.
46. Birds (Posts: 1157; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
Well, that changes my views all entirely. So he should have raise speed and only pitched slightly. I'm guessing he decided to pitch up at a steeper angle which made the tail plane snap? For aircraft it seldom is direction that causes a crash but more so generally a lack of aerial stability or a lack of altitude, and a mixture of both caused this horrible crash. I remember reading an article 4 years ago about a giant subsonic air-liner with the ability to land itself. Still waiting on that tech. Lol.
48. guest (Posts: 338; Member since: 13 Jun 2012)
The pilot was inexperienced because there is a delay between when you punch the throttle and how long it takes for the engines to spool up to bring the power. He might have pulled up too fast thinking the power would come on quick and stalled out. The last recorded speed of the plane was at 83 knots I think and normal landing speed is around 125ish. Not enough speed = not enough lift generated by the wings due to lack of air flow over the control surfaces which makes the plane uncontrollable and drop like a rock. Altitude is not the problem though a plane has to get from 0 feet off the ground in the air and back down to 0 feet. The flaps that are extended during landing and take off help the aircraft grab the wind if you will so the pilot can maintain control of the aircraft during slower flight speeds but even with the flaps extended there is still a minimum amount of airflow that needs to flow over the wings in order to make them effective.
4. MartianMe (unregistered)
WOW!!!..those pics are probably taken with the GS4....just saying!!
33. SamsungNewbie (Posts: 30; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
Not really the right time for comments like these.
39. taikucing (unregistered)
7. PAPINYC (banned) (Posts: 2315; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)
He stated, 'he was fine as well as most of the other passengers'. Sympathies and iSympathies to all victims and their families.
On a side note, I hope my Galaxy Note 3 wasn't on that flight!!
6. tedkord (Posts: 11607; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
Scary. Condolences to the families of those who died. Thank goodness it wasn't worse.
8. darkkjedii (Posts: 21186; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Yeah Ted, this could've been far worse bro.
10. darkkjedii (Posts: 21186; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Ted what're your views on air travel? I've flown several times, but have become increasingly wary of it recently. From terrorism, to mechanical issues, it's just not as safe anymore.
12. PAPINYC (banned) (Posts: 2315; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)
I'm sure you can always drive your bus to your destination … [just sayin']!!
13. Commentator (Posts: 3684; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
According to CBS, the last fatal plane crash in the US was in 2009. Approximately 28,000 flights take off daily in the US (according to some guy on Yahoo Answers, at least), resulting in over ten million total per year.
Not to sound callous, but I like the odds of one fatal crash in every 40,000,000 flights.
14. darkkjedii (Posts: 21186; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
I agree commentator. I'll fly again at some point, but man it makes you think, ya know?
38. tedkord (Posts: 11607; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
I don't particularly like to travel, period. My wife doesn't like to fly, but if its any real distance, I refuse to drive. We took our boy to WDW a couple of months back - she would have driven the entire 1500 or so miles. Not me. I'm not sitting in a car for 20 + hours if I can sit in a plane for two and a half.
Its never worried me. Its still statistically safer than driving.
45. darkkjedii (Posts: 21186; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
I'd have flown too under those circumstances. 20 hrs of driving, no way.
18. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)
Just glad everyone is safe.
27. darkkjedii (Posts: 21186; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
What's sad is there's still 60 + passengers unaccounted for.
36. Rehankhan (Posts: 323; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)
off-topic the picture looks edited how on earth a person can capture a photo then edit it on instagram or whatever in this circumstances?
44. archangel9 (Posts: 233; Member since: 07 Feb 2010)
Appreciate every moment of your life because you can be here one minute gone the next.This isn't about whose OS is better .We're talking about life.Everyone on PA please take notice and care of your loved ones .PEACE.
47. kindlefireowner (Posts: 503; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)
Tragedy aside, David should carry a Nokia Lumia cellphone because the photos are average at best.