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Samsung details plans for 4K phones, own 64-bit processor for 2014-15

0. phoneArena 06 Nov 2013, 06:05 posted on

Samsung has detailed its plans for the near future and they include even higher resolution phones and the development of its own custom processor core…

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posted on 06 Nov 2013, 06:19 25

1. alchemyduelist (Posts: 17; Member since: 26 Jul 2012)


800ppi? What's with the world and crazy pixel density screens. What the phone industry needs to sort out is the battery life of phones. Lol.

posted on 06 Nov 2013, 07:53 7

11. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 756; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)


Waste of processing power and battery, this is even more ridiculous when Samsung themselves stuff 1366x768 screens on 900$ laptops. I know because i bought one.

posted on 06 Nov 2013, 09:14 9

20. jove39 (Posts: 1258; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


Battery life is more important than pixel count...if samsung can't invest/research on improving batteries...then atleast they should work on power efficient 1080p displays before moving on to 4K.

posted on 06 Nov 2013, 10:48 4

26. XaErO (Posts: 137; Member since: 25 Sep 2012)


I agree .. they should focus on innovating batteries that can last 4x - 5x times more .. and also focus on developing displays that can consume 5x-10x times lesser battery juice ..

posted on 07 Nov 2013, 16:08

40. applesucker (Posts: 81; Member since: 29 Oct 2013)


with today's current battery technology, it is really impossible to improved battery life unless make it bigger so as the phone itself! it is the responsibility of the manufacturers itself and not samsung

posted on 06 Nov 2013, 13:01

33. zuckerboy (Posts: 898; Member since: 22 Dec 2011)


yeah you are right. they have to focus battery instead of display resolution we have got 450 ppi display but battery life remains 1 day average

posted on 06 Nov 2013, 06:19 11

2. sam3k (Posts: 33; Member since: 02 May 2013)


Hope your plans will materialize, Samsung is 1 of the few company's driving innovation..

posted on 06 Nov 2013, 09:09

18. rallyguy (Posts: 526; Member since: 13 Mar 2012)


Not sure if you are only talking about the mobile phone market. Since there are only a few manufactures that are real competition for each other, sure, there are only a few of them. In the mobile market, there are a lot. Qualcomm for example. Overall, in the general market there are tens of thousands.

posted on 06 Nov 2013, 06:21 12

3. Johnabis (Posts: 54; Member since: 17 Feb 2011)


I don't think there is a need for anything above 400ppi

posted on 06 Nov 2013, 07:25 3

6. akki20892 (Posts: 3289; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)


Not 400, above 300 is more than enough.

posted on 06 Nov 2013, 07:30 17

8. Commentator (Posts: 2312; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)


Says Apple.

posted on 06 Nov 2013, 08:15 3

13. akki20892 (Posts: 3289; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)


Search the fact on Google.

posted on 06 Nov 2013, 08:24 3

15. tedkord (Posts: 4416; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


The "fact" on Google assumes everyone holds their device the same distance and had the same eyesight. I have 20/18 eyesight, I can see pixels more than most people.

posted on 06 Nov 2013, 09:11 3

19. rallyguy (Posts: 526; Member since: 13 Mar 2012)


How do you search for that fact? It's an opinion. There is no "fact" here.

posted on 06 Nov 2013, 09:24 3

23. roldefol (Posts: 2858; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


I can see a difference between a ~300 ppi screen and ~400 ppi. I don't see a point in going beyond the current ~450 though. You can't pick out an individual pixel on the HTC One or LG G2. This year saw photorealistic screens. Anything beyond that is a waste of processing power.

posted on 06 Nov 2013, 09:50

24. nctx77 (Posts: 449; Member since: 03 Sep 2013)


See a difference yes, but how close do you need to look at the display to tell? To me there needs to be enough difference to warrant the extra battery life and processing power.

posted on 06 Nov 2013, 10:33 1

25. medicci37 (Posts: 606; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)


Weather it's enough or not is subjective. But you can definitely notice the difference between 720p & 1080p on my HTC 1 compared to my 720p galaxy nexus. Would like the option to reduce resolution at times. Like I can with a laptop or monitor

posted on 06 Nov 2013, 12:50

31. nctx77 (Posts: 449; Member since: 03 Sep 2013)


I hear you, but I just don't think it's necessary on such a small screen. TV I understand, because the screens are so large. I can look at 1080p on a tv and see how it can get better, so 4k is great for tv's. On a phone makes just as much since as a galaxy round.

posted on 06 Nov 2013, 15:06

37. roldefol (Posts: 2858; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


The Galaxy Nexus used a PenTile screen. Those are typically more jagged looking than non-PenTile (LCD) at the same resolution. That's why the Galaxy S4 at 1080 looks significantly sharper than the S3 at 720. Gotta compare apples to apples.

posted on 06 Nov 2013, 11:38 3

28. akki20892 (Posts: 3289; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)


Alright guys, I want 1 trillion ppi in one inch damn it.

posted on 06 Nov 2013, 22:16 1

38. Chris_Bakke (Posts: 199; Member since: 23 Jan 2013)


1,600,000,000,000 x 900,000,000,000 is 1,835,755,975,068 PPI

posted on 06 Nov 2013, 06:32 2

4. chunky1x (Posts: 197; Member since: 28 Mar 2010)


I still think that 64 bit is still a fad.

posted on 06 Nov 2013, 07:13 4

5. SonyFindOneDroidple (Posts: 441; Member since: 11 May 2013)


No need.. samsung should focus on camera, design and new UI

posted on 06 Nov 2013, 07:26 2

7. Boybawang (Posts: 30; Member since: 02 Jun 2013)


500dpi on a phone is NOT impressive but rather a waste of CPU cycles. But it can serve usefull in high res head mounted displays such as VR.

posted on 06 Nov 2013, 07:40 4

9. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6181; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)


Samsung pushing limits of their sweet screen.

posted on 06 Nov 2013, 07:50 2

10. livyatan (Posts: 669; Member since: 19 Jun 2013)


My guess is that Samsung will put WQHD on the next Note which will be 6", also on the later generation of Note 8, and perhaps a UHD on their 10-13" range of tablets.

Putting anything more than full hd on a 5-6" smartphone would be utter idiocy.

posted on 06 Nov 2013, 07:57 4

12. datsyuk (Posts: 153; Member since: 11 Jan 2012)


Get 4k on televisions and computer monitors first. Why 23 inch and 50 inch screens are the same resolution as a phone blows my mind.

posted on 06 Nov 2013, 08:25 1

16. tedkord (Posts: 4416; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Because people don't view their 50 inch televisions from a foot away.

posted on 06 Nov 2013, 08:43 4

17. TheLolGuy (Posts: 483; Member since: 05 Mar 2013)


Even at a modest 8 ft, a typical 1080p HDTV at 55" would look far more pixelated and ugly compared to that same resolution in a phone, even had you put your nose up against it (the phone).

4k needs to come affordably to the TV before anything else, really. Monitors will be important too but it'll really only see extensive use by enthusiasts and workstation professionals.

posted on 06 Nov 2013, 13:08

34. zuckerboy (Posts: 898; Member since: 22 Dec 2011)


It is simple : you can sell phone every year but ppl doesnt buy tv or laptops every year

posted on 06 Nov 2013, 08:19

14. Bfrenz (Posts: 106; Member since: 26 Aug 2012)


Hmmm. Interesting.

posted on 06 Nov 2013, 09:15 1

21. rallyguy (Posts: 526; Member since: 13 Mar 2012)


Funny. I heard people saying the same thing about 1080 screen not too long ago. It might be bragging rights to say they did it first. Who knows, but why do nothing but complain about innovation and advancements in technology?

posted on 06 Nov 2013, 09:20

22. xfire99 (Posts: 425; Member since: 14 Mar 2012)


Sounds good on paper, but real usage, doubt it be any different on small screens and need a huge battery to last 1 day. Doubt peoples are willing throw "slim" design for 4K res clumsy smartphone.
Bring 4K resolution to TV instead!

posted on 06 Nov 2013, 11:06

27. nothingmuch (Posts: 157; Member since: 03 May 2013)


And make'em brighter too, and how about anti reflective screens, Longer battery... I think they're at a point now to work on the obvious cause all else is good enough

posted on 06 Nov 2013, 11:56

29. structureman116 (Posts: 135; Member since: 14 Sep 2010)


Why continue to push the ppi # when what we are using now makes pixels indistinguishable to the human eye? I agree that battery life should be a focus along with their flexible displays! 800+ppi is useless on a smartphone!

posted on 06 Nov 2013, 12:03

30. McLTE (Posts: 639; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


The shortsightedness and stupidity in the comments on this site astounds me.

With the way so many idiots here talk about "this is enough" or "that's too much" we'd be back with 4.3" phones with 1280x720 screens that everyone said was big enough. Why go past 1280??

Sure, right NOW you don't see the benefits of a 4k screen or whatever tech is coming in the future.. but I can guarantee that one day you'll be happier than hell it's here. We have NO IDEA how some of this tech will impact our lives. While you may think it's overkill and not needed now, be thankful that there are people who DO see the benefits.

I think it's pretty safe to assume that along with the high pixel counts of future displays, work is also being done on reducing power consumption and also battery tech improving as well.

Think a bit before making so many idiotic comments.

posted on 06 Nov 2013, 15:03

36. nothingmuch (Posts: 157; Member since: 03 May 2013)


I think that these "idiotic comments" is what helped put that phone you like so much in your hand today.

Think about it, if you were a company and wanted to make a bada$$ product where would be the most informative place to look on improving... that's right comments! It's not like those companies hand out questionnaires or anything.

And last I remember, this is a comment section, not a "let's scold all who disagree to disagree" agree?

There's No need to be salty McAngry

posted on 06 Nov 2013, 12:53

32. BigBoss10 (Posts: 219; Member since: 31 Aug 2012)


YEA BABY!!!!!! TAKE MY MONEY :D

posted on 06 Nov 2013, 13:57

35. galanoth (Posts: 298; Member since: 26 Nov 2011)


What if their future screens consume less power at higher resolutions?
Or even the same. Maybe their WQHD phone screens will use less power than their FHD screens. The future is exciting.
For example, the Kindle Fire HDX 8.9 at 2560x1600 consumes less power than the iPad Air at 2048x1536. (According to DisplayMate)

posted on 06 Nov 2013, 22:33

39. hellonerds (Posts: 135; Member since: 27 Aug 2013)


i want a 4K on my note 3 :D as in 4K=4000mah battery :D even thoe this note 3 last me all day already. never have to worry about a dying device when you need it most :D

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