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Samsung describes the advantages of the ISOCELL camera featured in the Galaxy S5

0. phoneArena 12 Mar 2014, 08:46 posted on

Samsung released a techy YouTube video, which focuses on the perks of the ISOCELL image sensor technology that the Korean company uses in the camera of its upcoming flagship, the Samsung Galaxy S5...

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posted on 12 Mar 2014, 08:55 15

1. ArtSim98 (Posts: 2427; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)


Can't wait to see an HONEST comparison between this, Z2 and All New One!

posted on 12 Mar 2014, 09:40

10. Ashoaib (Posts: 1294; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)


Wow... images are really bright and vibrant but I doubt these are taken from S5 isocell... this must be an implementation of isocell on a dedicated cam

posted on 12 Mar 2014, 09:41 3

11. ArtSim98 (Posts: 2427; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)


I believe they are possibly taken with S5, but at least there is some editing as always.

posted on 13 Mar 2014, 06:22

49. shadez10 (Posts: 398; Member since: 15 Jan 2012)


you have to show something good to a marketing ad.
so the photos might be taken with a DSLR.

marketing is always half lies... so better wait for the final unit and actually test it.

posted on 12 Mar 2014, 09:04 14

2. sergiobr (Posts: 399; Member since: 25 Feb 2013)


Go Sammy go ! It´ll surprise nonbelievers.

posted on 12 Mar 2014, 09:27 8

5. johnehms (Posts: 6; Member since: 29 Dec 2013)


There is none nonbelievers,the spec is not a question, everyone is expecting for a better design, you still dont understand, if the s5 is not as ugly as this, there will be no question about, or just few thu..

posted on 12 Mar 2014, 09:37 2

8. draconic1991 (Posts: 122; Member since: 27 Apr 2012)


Finally here's someone whos not judging anyone complaining about samsung....there are so many people who think that just because u criticise some company its because u hate them and like some other...

posted on 12 Mar 2014, 09:54 10

15. PapaSmurf (Posts: 7668; Member since: 14 May 2012)


This is PA. It holds true 99% of the time.

posted on 12 Mar 2014, 10:44

23. draconic1991 (Posts: 122; Member since: 27 Apr 2012)


Ya but still, one shudn't judge people so fast...and i know people complain a lot..i do a lot too...but thats what forums and comments section are generally used for...complaining...
but one thing about this video...if the pics shown in between were actually photos by s5, then i might have to take some complaints back about samsung cos they looked really nice...

posted on 12 Mar 2014, 11:02 11

25. sergiobr (Posts: 399; Member since: 25 Feb 2013)


lol you´ll buy a phone just by the shape,etc ? The nonbelievers thought that S5 didn´t changed.
Thx PapaSmurf

PapaSmurf (Posts: 5938; Member since: 14 May 2012)

S600 ---> S801AC
LTE global support
Refined UI
ISOCELL camera
2800mAh battery with Ulta Power Saving Mode
Download Booster
802.11ac MIMO 2x2
USB 3.0
IP67
Collaborated screen
500nits peak brightness on an AMOLED device

posted on 12 Mar 2014, 09:36 6

7. LiyanaBG (Posts: 288; Member since: 07 Nov 2013)


samsung got nothing to surprise us there s5 AKA s4 band AID is big fail

posted on 12 Mar 2014, 09:56 14

16. PapaSmurf (Posts: 7668; Member since: 14 May 2012)


S600 ---> S801AC
LTE global support
Refined UI
ISOCELL camera
2800mAh battery with Ulta Power Saving Mode
Download Booster
802.11ac MIMO 2x2
USB 3.0
IP67
Collaborated screen
500nits peak brightness on an AMOLED device

Now please tell me, how is this NOT an improvement over the S4?

Your trolling is getting really old.

posted on 12 Mar 2014, 10:06 2

18. The13thKing (banned) (Posts: 849; Member since: 26 Feb 2014)


And tell me how your nokia/lg/sony/orwhateverpieceofcopycr*pyoulike is going to sell ?

posted on 12 Mar 2014, 09:19 2

3. itsdeepak4u2000 (Posts: 2421; Member since: 03 Nov 2012)


OIS would have been a nice addition to the S5's camera. Eagerly waiting for the releases and comparisons of all the current flagships.

posted on 12 Mar 2014, 11:29 2

28. UglyFrank (Posts: 365; Member since: 23 Jan 2014)


They can't get enough OIS modules, they sell too many phones for that

posted on 12 Mar 2014, 09:26 3

4. PapaSmurf (Posts: 7668; Member since: 14 May 2012)


I want to see a comparison against other high end flagships!

posted on 13 Mar 2014, 02:06

47. PeterK. (Posts: 77; Member since: 13 Nov 2013)


Be patient, Smurf.

posted on 13 Mar 2014, 04:21 1

48. PapaSmurf (Posts: 7668; Member since: 14 May 2012)


Good things happen to those who wait. :)

posted on 12 Mar 2014, 09:31 10

6. MarkArigayo (Posts: 240; Member since: 18 Dec 2013)


IsoCell is gimmick due to lack of OIS on S5 cam. What would you expect from a cheat scoring device?

posted on 12 Mar 2014, 09:40 3

9. pwnarena (Posts: 834; Member since: 15 Feb 2013)


can't say that unless we have real comparisons made by photography-centric blogs like dpreview or photographyblog

we'd like to see ISO by ISO comparisons and not just what the auto mode delivers

posted on 12 Mar 2014, 09:51 11

14. PapaSmurf (Posts: 7668; Member since: 14 May 2012)


In case you haven't noticed, 5S and Z2 don't sport OIS and produce great results. Get those poor trolling skills out of here if you're not going to do it right.

PS- I swear if ISOCELL is proven to be better than most on the market (except 1020), I'll laugh in your face.

posted on 12 Mar 2014, 11:42 6

32. yudi.nemesis (Posts: 1127; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)


The first S5 Review.
http://recombu.com/mobile/reviews/samsung/galaxy-s5/

"Samsung has upgraded the Galaxy S5’s camera to 16-megapixels, compared with the Galaxy S4’s 13-megapixel snapper, but we didn’t notice (or particularly expect) a huge leap in picture quality. The Galaxy S5 still produces crisp, detailed photos with realistic colours, in almost all lighting conditions. Evening and low-light shots are a little less noisy now, but they still don’t hold a candle to Sony’s Xperia handsets; which are the best at snapping bright, sharp photos in gloomy conditions."

"Where the Galaxy S5 really shines is its uber-fast shutter speed, which is almost a match for the iPhone 5s. As long as you aren’t shaking the smartphone about, you’ll find the auto-focus locks onto your subject and the shutter fires in 0.3-seconds or less, a pleasing result of that Snapdragon 801 chip."

From the first review it seems there is nothing ground breaking about ISOCELL camera.

posted on 12 Mar 2014, 13:11 4

36. PapaSmurf (Posts: 7668; Member since: 14 May 2012)


Pre-production. Waiting after April 11th for actual demos and reviews.

posted on 12 Mar 2014, 17:36 1

41. ph00ny (Posts: 587; Member since: 26 May 2011)


Oddly enough, mobile review found them to be awesome. Maybe a difference in user?

posted on 12 Mar 2014, 21:17

46. JMartin22 (Posts: 756; Member since: 30 Apr 2013)


That's more of a difference in opinion. I wouldn't be surprised if "popular consensus" is influencing their commentary on the camera segment. Until we have scientific comparison and comparing and contrasting with professional camera equipment against both handsets, this is just that person's opinion. Both cameras seem extremely capable to the point where comparing them in low light situations will be the real differentiator.

posted on 12 Mar 2014, 10:21 2

21. rd_nest (Posts: 735; Member since: 06 Jun 2010)


ISOCELL is a sensor dude.

Sensors don't have OIS! it's the camera 'module' where the OIS is integrated.

posted on 12 Mar 2014, 11:34 2

30. yudi.nemesis (Posts: 1127; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)


Do you ever heard Sensor shift image stabilization??

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_stabilization

posted on 12 Mar 2014, 13:26 8

37. rd_nest (Posts: 735; Member since: 06 Jun 2010)


Don't shout if you're uneducated.

The sensor doesn't perform image stabilization. Sensor is just to capture the light. It's a separate mechanical mechanism that performs the stabilization. You can do it either on the lens or on the sensor. It doesn't mean that the sensor itself is performing this function. It's a different 'module' which performs such operation.

BTW, don't try to teach me about sensor shift, I own a A99. I know enough about sensor shift, IS or VR. OIS might be a new term for you, I have been using this for about a decade now.

posted on 12 Mar 2014, 13:40 4

38. PapaSmurf (Posts: 7668; Member since: 14 May 2012)


He got served lol...

posted on 18 Mar 2014, 04:47

51. preetmalhotra (Posts: 77; Member since: 27 Apr 2012)


Sensor-shift

The sensor capturing the image can be moved in such a way as to counteract the motion of the camera, a technology often referred to as mechanical image stabilization. When the camera rotates, causing angular error, gyroscopes encode information to the actuator that moves the sensor. The sensor is moved to maintain the projection of the image onto the image plane, which is a function of the focal length of the lens being used; modern cameras can acquire focal length information from the lens. Konica Minolta used a technique called "anti-shake" now marketed as SteadyShot in the Sony α line and "shake reduction - SR" in the K-5, K-7, K10D, K20D, K100D, K200D, K-m (K-2000) and K-x lines by Pentax, which relies on a very precise angular rate sensor to detect camera motion. Olympus introduced image stabilization with their E-510 D-SLR body, employing a system built around their Supersonic Wave Drive. Other manufacturers use DSPs to analyze the image on the fly and then move the sensor appropriately. Sensor shifting is also used in some cameras by Fujifilm, Samsung, Casio Exilim and Ricoh Caplio.

The advantage with moving the image sensor, instead of the lens, is that the image will be stabilized regardless of what lens is being used. This allows the stabilization to work with any lens the photographer chooses and reduces the weight and complexity of the lenses. Further, when sensor-based image stabilization technology improves, it requires replacing only the camera to take advantage of the improvements, which is typically far less expensive than replacing all existing lenses if relying on lens-based image stabilization. Some sensor-based image stabilization implementations are capable of correcting camera roll rotation, a motion that is easily excited by pressing the shutter button. No lens-based system can address this potential source of image blur. A by-product of available "roll" compensation is that the camera can automatically correct for tilted horizons in the optical domain, provided it is equipped with an electronic spirit level, such as the Pentax K-7/K-5 cameras.

One of the primary disadvantages of moving the image sensor itself is that the image projected to the viewfinder is not stabilized. However, this is not an issue on cameras that use an electronic viewfinder (EVF), since the image projected on that viewfinder is taken from the image sensor itself. Similarly, the image projected to a phase-detection autofocus system, if used, is not stabilized.

Sorry Almighty..
I am a poor illiterate guy.
Only you can owe DSLRs and this rocket-science knowledge about Stabilization!
Really Sorry to hurt your ego!!

posted on 12 Mar 2014, 18:52 6

43. SleepingOz (unregistered)


Beat it, sony fanboy.. You just don't know what you're talking about.

posted on 12 Mar 2014, 09:41 2

12. kaikuheadhunterz (Posts: 691; Member since: 18 Jul 2013)


I don't care about the technology behind it. As long as it produces better shots, I'm okay with it

posted on 12 Mar 2014, 09:51 2

13. ArtSim98 (Posts: 2427; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)


Lol. It's the technology that brings the quality.

posted on 12 Mar 2014, 10:04 3

17. tarek1980 (Posts: 49; Member since: 07 Jan 2014)


When we talk about the best smartphones camera, I believe no one is better than Nokia

1- Nokia
2-Sony

then the rest of other guys...... but Samsung is way back specially in low light situations

posted on 12 Mar 2014, 10:14 12

20. Jason2k13 (Posts: 633; Member since: 28 Mar 2013)


so please explain the poor quality results of the sony xperia Z and Z1?

posted on 12 Mar 2014, 11:08 1

26. ArtSim98 (Posts: 2427; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)


It's kinda hard to explain something that doesn't exist lol...

posted on 12 Mar 2014, 11:37 1

31. PapaSmurf (Posts: 7668; Member since: 14 May 2012)


Hit or miss with the Z1 and Z. Now judging from what I've seen on the Z2, they actually may have got it right this time.

posted on 12 Mar 2014, 11:32 2

29. yudi.nemesis (Posts: 1127; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)


For now Only Nokia is better than Sony thanks to Toshiba big image sensor, high quality Zeiss lens and 3 axis ST optical image stabilization.

http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles

posted on 12 Mar 2014, 10:14 2

19. StraightEdgeNexus (Posts: 3054; Member since: 14 Feb 2014)


I belive galaxy s5 will rival lumia 1020 if a xenon flash and OIS are added. Btw xenon is too much on modern smartphones it adds much bulk and thickness.

posted on 12 Mar 2014, 18:54 3

44. SleepingOz (unregistered)


I don't really care about xenon flash but OIS is a must right now.

posted on 12 Mar 2014, 10:27

22. Mube007 (Posts: 87; Member since: 24 Sep 2013)


Samsung have everything except designing lol

posted on 12 Mar 2014, 10:50 2

24. kevinhope5 (Posts: 28; Member since: 06 Feb 2014)


Samsung! Samsung! Samsung! oooooooh! Samsung... I still can't wait to say i told you so!.

posted on 12 Mar 2014, 11:28

27. dexter_jdr (Posts: 1113; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)


i want to know how did they did the 30% decrease in crosstalk.
and how slimmer can it get in millimeters.

posted on 12 Mar 2014, 12:20

33. cleat-glitch (Posts: 81; Member since: 07 Feb 2014)


huh...o, "its the boom"...why you just didnt say so

posted on 12 Mar 2014, 12:56

34. geordie8t1 (Posts: 82; Member since: 18 Feb 2014)


was them shots produced on an S5? i wonder, if so pretty good pre retail samples.

posted on 12 Mar 2014, 13:02 1

35. Odiin (Posts: 212; Member since: 23 Apr 2013)


Judging from earlier track record of Samsung, S5 will produce great results in camera department without any doubt. Waiting for camera comparision between S5 vs Z2 vs All New HTC One. All the best Sammy :)

posted on 12 Mar 2014, 13:47

39. kevinhope5 (Posts: 28; Member since: 06 Feb 2014)


Haters Will burn! Y'all think Samsung is dumb like Apple...

posted on 12 Mar 2014, 17:04 1

40. gigaraga (Posts: 633; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)


Judging by how good the cameras were on the Note 3 and the S4, even the Note II and S3, the S5 camera shouldn't disappoint. It looks like Samsung is finally taking the low-light department of the camera more seriously, which is excellent.

posted on 12 Mar 2014, 18:30

42. Edmund (Posts: 654; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)


lmfao... this is how your so called superior "isocell" camera performs

http://cdn.recombu.com/mobile/images/phones/1328/1394135723.png

http://cdn.recombu.com/mobile/images/phones/1328/1394135607.png (notice the heavy post-processing on the brick wall. This shows overly agressive noise reduction algorithms have been implemented, giving the picture an almost pastel-like effect. The result is very unnatural)

posted on 12 Mar 2014, 19:28

45. garyII (Posts: 160; Member since: 26 Feb 2014)


like this type of video, more technical knowledges of the technologies introduced.

posted on 15 Mar 2014, 01:37

50. dmakun (Posts: 147; Member since: 06 Jun 2011)


If the camera on the galaxy S5 boast shooting speeds of 0.3 seconds what do you need OIS for? I say let's wait and see photo samples before moaning about the lack of OIS on the new galaxy S5. I think it'd be great has the shutter speed improvement implemented in the chip negates the issue of blur which often occurs due to shaky hands and slow shutter speed.

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